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Post by fiosnasiob on Aug 2, 2020 15:47:02 GMT
 I will Joe : No matter how superior your performance was, you had no chance to get in (in the Lead category) against/instead a beloved (funny) actor putting in a fine dramatic performance playing a gay man dying of AIDS who is eventually fired by his law firm because of his condition, no chance. |
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Post by stabcaesar on Aug 2, 2020 15:57:17 GMT
Off the top of my head...
Alan Alda was better than every single nominated performance in Marriage Story.
Sam Rockwell was better than Scarlett Johansson in Jojo Rabbit.
Pretty much everyone (except Kevin Costner) was better than Tommy Lee Jones in JFK.
Michael Palin was better than Kevin Kline in A Fish Called Wanda (though Kline was good too).
The only good thing about that travesty Nine was Marion Cotillard, not Penelope Cruz.
Morgan Freeman was good and all, but James Whitmore was by far the standout performance in The Shawshank Redemption.
Paul Newman acted circles around Robert Redford in The Sting.
Anyone was better than Mark Ruffalo in Spotlight, who delivered one of the worst Oscar nominated performances of all time, especially Liev Schreiber.
Sunny Pawar acted circles around Dev Patel in Lion.
Daniel Day-Lewis was great and everything in Phantom Thread but if anyone deserved a nomination it was Vicky Krieps.
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Post by Mattsby on Aug 2, 2020 20:00:47 GMT
Probably the biggest one for me - Goldie Hawn instead of all-timer-wonderful-worthy Ingrid Bergman in Cactus Flower
Other random ones :
I loveee Geraldine Page but Elizabeth Hartman is the strange sexy standout in You're a Big Boy Now
I like Rip Torn more than Ed Begley in Sweet Bird of Youth
Gary Sinise more than Ed Harris in Apollo 13
Poitier > Spencer Tracy in Guess Who's
Tucci > Ruffalo in Spotlight
and to make mad MA, Streep > Pugh in LW
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Post by sirchuck23 on Aug 2, 2020 20:31:35 GMT
I will Joe : No matter how superior your performance was, you had no chance to get in (in the Lead category) against/instead a beloved (funny) actor putting in a fine dramatic performance playing a gay man dying of AIDS who is eventually fired by his law firm because of his condition, no chance. I appreciate you explaining that to me like I‘m a 2-year old! |
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Post by dadsburgers on Aug 3, 2020 0:02:08 GMT
For supporting actress:
Stella Stevens > Shelley Winters in The Poseidon Adventure
Diane Keaton > Talia Shire in The Godfather Part II
Betty Buckley > Piper Laurie in Carrie
Frances Fisher > Gloria Stuart in Titanic
Cameron Diaz > Catherine Keener in Being John Malkovich (by a hair, they both should be in)
Kelly Macdonald > Maggie Smith in Gosford Park (I'm sorry)
Julianne Nicholson > Julia Roberts in August: Osage County
Janelle Monae > Octavia Spencer in Hidden Figures (but also, Janelle Monae in Moonlight > Hidden Figures)
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Post by TerryMontana on Aug 3, 2020 5:37:49 GMT
Diane Keaton > Talia Shire in The Godfather Part II Amen, brother!! |
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Post by dadsburgers on Aug 3, 2020 23:17:29 GMT
Diane Keaton > Talia Shire in The Godfather Part II Amen, brother!! This is definitely one of the biggest ones! Shire should've been nominated for the first one, Keaton for the second. I don't remember Shire doing anything interesting in the second one, it must've been to make up for her snub. |
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Post by finniussnrub on Aug 3, 2020 23:44:42 GMT
Some older ones:
Roy E. Glenn over Cecil Kellaway (Guess Who's Coming to Dinner)
Richard Attenborough over Mako (The Sand Pebbles)
Anyone over Ian Bannen (Flight of The Phoenix) OR THEY COULD'VE NOMINATED HIM FOR THE HILL
Fredric March over Edmond O'Brien (Seven Days in May)
Robert Ryan over Terence Stamp (Billy Budd, Actually love Stamp, but Ryan was actually supporting).
Golden Globe Winner Stephen Boyd over Hugh Griffith Ben-Hur
Jose Ferrer over Tom Tully The Caine Mutiny
Dana Andrews over Fredric March The Best Years of Our Lives (though I'd nominate both).
Lee J. Cobb and Vincent Price over Charles Bickford The Song of Bernadette
Herbert Marshall and George Sanders over Albert Bassermann Foreign Correspondent
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Aug 4, 2020 0:01:11 GMT
James Mason over Marlon Brando in Julius Caesar. I love Brando... but he's not only supporting but second fiddle to Mason's magnificent Brutus.
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Post by TerryMontana on Aug 4, 2020 5:26:44 GMT
This is definitely one of the biggest ones! Shire should've been nominated for the first one, Keaton for the second. I don't remember Shire doing anything interesting in the second one, it must've been to make up for her snub. Exactly that. Keaton did the best with her role in part II, Shire had just one intense scene and that was it. |
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Post by isabelaolive on Aug 7, 2020 16:56:55 GMT
Ed Harris > William Hurt (An history of violence)
Steve Carrell, Paul Dano, Greg Kinnear > Alan Arkin (Little miss sunshine)
Janelle Monae > Octavia Spencer (Hidden Figures)
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Post by Mattsby on Aug 9, 2020 22:10:48 GMT
Postcards from the Edge: MacLaine was better than Streep.  MacLaine missed for this?? Wow. And she got BAFTA nod where Streep didn't. Not that Streep was better, they were equal but if anything MacLaine and that hospital scene towards the end is the showstopper |
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Post by franklin on Aug 9, 2020 22:59:56 GMT
John Lithgow should have never been nominated for Terms of Endearment.
Jeff Daniels should have.
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Post by JangoB on Aug 9, 2020 23:36:03 GMT
I like Vanessa Redgrave a good deal but if anyone should've been nominated for "Morgan: A Suitable Case for Treatment", it's the titular Morgan himself - David Warner.
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Post by TerryMontana on Aug 10, 2020 16:04:37 GMT
Re-watched Murder on the Orient Express after about 20 years. I had forgotten Ingrid Bergman won an Oscar for this (I thought she was just nominated). I really can't understand how she won and on the other hand Lauren Bacall wasn't even nominated...
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Post by marvelass on Aug 20, 2020 14:25:19 GMT
Postcards from the Edge: MacLaine was better than Streep. MacLaine missed for this?? Wow. And she got BAFTA nod where Streep didn't. Not that Streep was better, they were equal but if anything MacLaine and that hospital scene towards the end is the showstopper The BAFTAs were pretty much meaningless until 2001, when they became Oscar precursors. Prior to that, for its first 52 years, they were held after the Academy Awards, sometime in April or May. I guess they realized they were becoming even more irrelevant when SAG and Critics' Choice were established in the mid-'90s and became precursors alongside the Golden Globes. |
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Post by marvelass on Aug 20, 2020 14:52:20 GMT
- Helena Bonham Carter > Vanessa Redgrave in Howards End
- Richard Gere > John C. Reilly in Chicago
- Noah Taylor > Armin Mueller-Stahl in Shine
- Eleanor Parker > Peggy Wood in The Sound of Music
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Post by TerryMontana on Aug 20, 2020 15:12:59 GMT
- Helena Bonham Carter > Vanessa Redgrave in Howards End- Richard Gere > John C. Reilly in Chicago |
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Post by speeders on Aug 20, 2020 15:27:23 GMT
- Richard Gere > John C. Reilly in ChicagoI'm guessing Gere was submitted as lead? But I agree. |
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Post by Mattsby on May 2, 2021 0:47:08 GMT
 I thought Amy Madigan was kinda horrible and infuriating in Twice in a Lifetime (1985) - how the hurl was she golden globe and Oscar nom'd over the better Ann-Margret who gives a wonderful perf and was on a serious roll in the early '80s..... and the even better Ellen Burstyn who was a 5x Oscar nominee at this point and stepped away from the movies for like four years. How 'bout a welcome back? She's great here... cautious, scared, desperate, devastated... and still manages to convey warmth and believable excitement in there too. |
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Post by hugobolso on May 2, 2021 15:36:06 GMT
Most of you were kind. But I'm not kind.
So I will destroy some favourite.
Kelly MacDonald over Helen Mirren in Gosford Park. Helen Mirren had bad luck at the Oscars, despite of twice win in Cannes and several Emmys in her bag, previously she had only one Oscar nom and loose. So i guess Oscar voters thought that was time for her first Oscar. Specially when her main rival was Jennifer Connelly an stunning young woman. Any way at the end won Connelly, fortunately for Mirren a couple of years later she won for the Queen, one of the most deserved Oscar (where her main rival was also a veteran actress). But her Oscar nom, was more a reinvedicative one, that a trully deserved. But the Breakthrough MacDonald, was much better, and gave the best performance.-
I trully don't recognized from Trainspotting, where she had a very small role.-
Steve Buscemi over Frances McDormand in Fargo. I hate Fargo, and the best of all were Buscemi and then H. Macy. While McDormand was playing Frances McDormand, like in her next two wins. I hope that after her third Oscar, people will are going to hate her fargo performance.
Tom Courtney who portrayed Pasha from Dr. Zhivago over Omar Shariff. I think Shariff should won the Oscar for such a difficult role, in a such long lengh film. The guy who was nominated wasn't memorable. Steiger and Guiness were also better.-
Leonardo over Kate Winslet in Titanic. I cannot understand Matt Damon nomination.- I think that Winslet was encorseted in the classic dissaster romancer film.-
Richard Gere over Catherine Zeta Jones in Chicago, someone has to mention that. What an awful performance by CZJ. She was by far the weakest performance of the big 4 actors.-
Joan Greenwood over Diane Cilento in Tom Jones. How the best perfomance was the one that was snubed, is a totally mystery.-
Wendy Hiller over Albert Finney in Murder on the Orient express, also I think that Rachel Roberts and Lauren Baccall were better than Bergman, but Finney was so miscast, too young and handsome for prostetics.-
Roddy MacDowell over Rex Harrison in Cleopatra.-
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Post by flasuss on May 2, 2021 16:03:11 GMT
I agree that Kelly Macdonald was Oscar worthy in Gosford Park, but should have been over Maggie Smith. Mirren should have won.
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Post by stabcaesar on May 2, 2021 16:15:14 GMT
I agree that Kelly Macdonald was Oscar worthy in Gosford Park, but should have been over Maggie Smith. Mirren should have won. I'm surprised by the mentions of Mirren and Smith. I thought those two were far and away the standouts of the film. |
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Post by wilcinema on May 3, 2021 10:48:24 GMT
A few not yet mentioned.
The Trial Of The Chicago 7: Mark Rylance and Yahya Abdul-Mateen II over Sacha Baron Cohen. Hell Or High Water: Jeff Bridges can do no wrong, but I would have nominated Ben Foster. Spotlight: As others have said before, Ruffalo is the worst in the cast. Stanley Tucci and Liev Schreiber were my favorites. The Wolf of Wall Street: I love Jonah Hill, but McConaughey's cameo is sensational. Shine: Noah Taylor deserved a nomination somewhere. |
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Post by stephen on May 3, 2021 13:10:15 GMT
Hell Or High Water: Jeff Bridges can do no wrong, but I would have nominated Ben Foster. Bump Bridges into lead and give him the win there, and nominate Foster. Boom. Nailed it. |
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MacLaine missed for this?? Wow. And she got BAFTA nod where Streep didn't. Not that Streep was better, they were equal but if anything MacLaine and that hospital scene towards the end is the showstopper
