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Post by pacinoyes on Oct 31, 2019 9:05:14 GMT
Then again, all actors are supposedly liars who have no understading of their own craftNever said actors have no understanding of their own craft - ever - screenshot that or GTFO - that's what I thought - that's why when Good God fact checks you, you fold like a cheap suit .........you're a liar man, this is why you have the rep you do on here.........some actor says something nice about your actor and you can't just take the win and leave it at that and let people talk about it - you have to lie about so much stuff you can't get out from under it.
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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 31, 2019 9:10:36 GMT
Bloody hell, Jealous DiCaprio stan is back! Can't stand that people started having real conversations again after you attempted thread destroying shitshow. Sorry Norton wasn't rhapsodising about the Premiere Actor Of Our Time It is what it is Robert De Niro and Al Pacino have rhapsodized about DiCaprio in the past. Robert De Niro >>>> Edward Norton. Al Pacino >>> Edward Norton. But this isn't about DiCaprio. We were comparing Tom Hanks and Denzel Washington as actors, before you went into a silly tangent about who you think actors want to be like. I understand the insecurity, because Tom Hanks has the clearly superior career of the two, but there is no need to lose your panties over it With you, it's always been about DiCaprio and your insecurity. He works with all the best directors, has arguably the biggest box office....but is less respected by his peers than some 60-something year old black dude that's a part time action star and doesn't work with as many great directors. That has to sting Sorry that many other actors don't consider a man that's never set foot on a live stage the Premiere Actor Of Our Time, but that's neither my fault nor my problem. Get over it.
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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 31, 2019 9:16:00 GMT
Then again, all actors are supposedly liars who have no understading of their own craftNever said actors have no understanding of their own craft - ever - screenshot that or GTFO - that's what I thought - that's why when Good God fact checks you, you fold like a cheap suit .........you're a liar man, this is why you have the rep you do on here.........some actor says something nice about your actor and you can't just take the win and leave it at that and let people talk about it - you have to lie about so much stuff you can't get out from under it. Don t make me tell you to go Fake Some More Views old man! You are an embarrasment and a liar. So is your troll bestie Kingpin (oops, no problem with him spreading propoganda on different forums with different names since he's your puppet, but hey, you do the same thing yourself ) The thread ending up like this was so predictable. Norton praises DW, and the insecure Leo and Pacino stans lose theur minds (not counting you TerryMontana)
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Post by Good God on Oct 31, 2019 9:19:56 GMT
With you, it's always been about DiCaprio and your insecurity. He works with all the best directors, has arguably the biggest box office....but is less respected by his peers than some 60-something year old black dude that's a part time action star and doesn't work with as many great dorectors. That has to sting Sorry than many other actors don't consider a man that's never set foot on a live stage the Premiere Actor Of Our Time, but that's neither my fault nor my problem. Get over it. LOL, you keep comparing DiCaprio and Washington and then accuse me of starting it Okay, I'll play. What's your evidence to prove that Denzel Washington is more respected by his peers than Leonardo DiCaprio? Anything Washington has over DiCaprio is largely a result of Washington being 20 years older. When you compare them at the same age (45): 1. DiCaprio has the way better filmography 2. DiCaprio is a way bigger movie star 3. DiCaprio has worked with far better directors and actors 4. DiCaprio has 5 Oscar nominations (compared to Washington's 3) 5. DiCaprio has 4 BAFTA nominations (compared to Washington's 0) 6. DiCaprio has been praised to be among the best actors ever by multiple highly respected actors and directors (how many directors and actors were saying the same of Washington when he was 45?) I think it's pretty clear that DiCaprio is more respected by his peers than Washington was at the age of 45. Even disregarding their ages, I'd argue DiCaprio is more respected overseas than Washington is. It's only in America that Washington is more respected than DiCaprio. You should be arguing with yourself, really, because you yourself have said that DiCaprio will be at the forefront of the "greatest actor" discussion in 15-20 years time
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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 31, 2019 9:21:17 GMT
With you, it's always been about DiCaprio and your insecurity. He works with all the best directors, has arguably the biggest box office....but is less respected by his peers than some 60-something year old black dude that's a part time action star and doesn't work with as many great dorectors. That has to sting Sorry than many other actors don't consider a man that's never set foot on a live stage the Premiere Actor Of Our Time, but that's neither my fault nor my problem. Get over it. LOL, you keep comparing DiCaprio and Washington and then accuse me of starting it Okay, I'll play. What's your evidence to prove that Denzel Washington is more respected by his peers than Leonardo DiCaprio? Anything Washington has over DiCaprio is largely a result of Washington being 20 years older. When you compare them at the same age (45): 1. DiCaprio has the way better filmography 2. DiCaprio is a way bigger movie star 3. DiCaprio has worked with far better directors and actors 4. DiCaprio has 5 Oscar nominations (compared to Washington's 3) 5. DiCaprio has 4 BAFTA nominations (compared to Washington's 0) 6. DiCaprio has been praised to be among the best actors ever by multiple highly respected actors and directors (how many directors and actors were saying the same of Washington when he was 45?) I think it's pretty clear that DiCaprio is more respected by his peers than Washington was at the age of 45. Even disregarding their ages, I'd argue DiCaprio is more respected overseas than Washington is. It's only in America that Washington is more respected than DiCaprio. You should be arguing with yourself, really, because you yourself have said that DiCaprio will be at the forefront of the "greatest actor" discussion in 15-20 years time The insecurity
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Post by Good God on Oct 31, 2019 9:27:13 GMT
LOL, just like I thought, you have no evidence to back you up. Just your delusions, and you still can't even convince yourself Either way, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be insecure about. I don't think DiCaprio is a GOAT contender, and I doubt he will ever be. He needs a Godfather or a Raging Bull to contend for GOATdom. He'll go down as a better actor than Washington though. All I believe is that DiCaprio is the best actor of his generation, and even you have suggested many times in the past that DiCaprio will go down as the best actor of his generation. This is just your attempt at deflecting. My calling you out has little to do with DiCaprio and everything to do with you being a delusional liar that attacks a lot of my favorite actors in your pathetic attempts to prop up Washington. Bottomline. And no amount of shit that you make up about me will stop me from calling you out
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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 31, 2019 9:34:19 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on Oct 31, 2019 9:43:00 GMT
The thread ending up like this was so predictable. Norton praises DW, and the insecure Leo and Pacino stans lose theur minds No, in fact I literally said Norton may be right - I agreed with him - can you not read (?) - I said he may be the best working actor on the criteria Norton is using. But you had to then lie and construct a case for living actor or GOAT - which he is not and which you can't construct you rather can only lie about it........ none of which you have refuted at all on here. Like literally none - I don't do that, I never conflate my opinion with fact. These are Denzel's last 10 films ages 55-65 - does this seem like greatest living or "GOAT" to you? Was he the GOAT in 2009 or did these utterly magnificent recent 10 put him over the top where he somehow surpassed "Brando's Ghost?" The Book of Eli (2010) Unstoppable Safe House Flight 2 Guns
The Equalizer The Magnificent Seven Fences Roman J. Israel, Esq. The Equalizer 2
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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 31, 2019 9:48:53 GMT
The thread ending up like this was so predictable. Norton praises DW, and the insecure Leo and Pacino stans lose theur minds No, in fact I literally said Norton may be right - I agreed with him - can you not read (?) - I said he may be the best working actor on the criteria Norton is using. But you had to then lie and construct a case for living actor or GOAT - which he is not and which you can't construct you rather can only lie about it........ none of which you have refuted at all on here. Like literally none - I don't do that, I never conflate my opinion with fact. These are Denzel's last 10 films ages 55-65 - does this seem like greatest living or "GOAT" to you? Was he the GOAT in 2009 or did these utterly magnificent recent 10 put him over the top where he somehow surpassed "Brando's Ghost?" The Book of Eli (2010) Unstoppable Safe House Flight 2 Guns
The Equalizer The Magnificent Seven Fences Roman J. Israel, Esq. The Equalizer 2You post a list of movies in the last nine years where he got three Oscar nominations for Best Actor, and that's supposed to be an argument against his GOAT candidacy Da fuck.....
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Post by pacinoyes on Oct 31, 2019 10:17:31 GMT
No, in fact I literally said Norton may be right - I agreed with him - can you not read (?) - I said he may be the best working actor on the criteria Norton is using. But you had to then lie and construct a case for living actor or GOAT - which he is not and which you can't construct you rather can only lie about it........ none of which you have refuted at all on here. Like literally none - I don't do that, I never conflate my opinion with fact. These are Denzel's last 10 films ages 55-65 - does this seem like greatest living or "GOAT" to you? Was he the GOAT in 2009 or did these utterly magnificent recent 10 put him over the top where he somehow surpassed "Brando's Ghost?" The Book of Eli (2010) Unstoppable Safe House Flight 2 Guns
The Equalizer The Magnificent Seven Fences Roman J. Israel, Esq. The Equalizer 2You post a list of movies in the last nine years where he got three Oscar nominations for Best Actor, and that's supposed to be an argument against his GOAT candidacy Da fuck..... Or...........I posted a list with 10 films in 10 years where he won nothing but a single SAG, had 1 BP nominee, zero noteworthy comedic roles, with many marginally received films which looks not too different from the decade that say Jeff Bridges or Willem Dafoe have had, and far less than say DiCaprio has achieved. They aren't GOAT either...... Pick a fncking lane with Denzel - is he the GOAT because he has the most Oscar nominations - no, because he doesn't.........is he the GOAT because he has the most BAFTA's no because he doesn't have a single nod.........is his Golden Globe total amazing - not really - is he the GOAT because he has the most Triple Crown victories or Tony Awards - no because he doesn't. Is he the GOAT because he's a young man with a bright future........no, because he's not. If you want to argue he's the best - ok knock yourself out - just say his performances touch you deeply or something, that's fine, if you did THAT just talked about the "why" - no one would have to endure your endless goalpost moving. But "he could have an Emmy if he wanted one!"............"comedy is easy so he doesn't have to do it, we'll just say he could if he wanted to!" don't fly - use other metrics, thanks.
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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 31, 2019 10:52:57 GMT
Now that's what we call haterade logistics He is not in the running for GOAT filmmaker or GOAT producer.He's in the running for GOAT Actor, because he's given consistently given massively acclaimed performances across film and stage for the last 30+ years. Including the last 9. With almost no majorly trashed performances. His fellow actors worship him in a way they do few other actors living or dead, which may count for something. Or not if you don't want it too. Everything else is nonsense,that reeks of rival stan insecurity.But at this point, your motivation to claim he can't be considered for GOAT, or "living actor" or whatever is plain as day. It's more amusing than anything that you choose to keep it up. But, hey it's up to you. If it makes you feel better, do you. As long as people are aware of the reasons you are doing it (which I think most people here are), it's really not that big a deal anymore.
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Post by TerryMontana on Oct 31, 2019 10:53:53 GMT
So now the problem is Pacino's height?? kidding....
I just don't believe actors envy Denzel's career. They respect him, they recognize his success and talent but they don't want to be like him. Yes, they idolize Brando, of course they do. Maybe DDL because of his awards, his BP nominated films etc. But Hanks and Washington? I just can't accept that. We disagree on that.
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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 31, 2019 11:19:06 GMT
So now the problem is Pacino's height?? kidding.... I just don't believe actors envy Denzel's career. They respect him, they recognize his success and talent but they don't want to be like him. Yes, they idolize Brando, of course they do. Maybe DDL because of his awards, his BP nominated films etc. But Hanks and Washington? I just can't accept that. We disagree on that. Benicio Del Toro said he studies Denzel's career to make his own choices. Matt Damon and Ben Affleck said as young actors, they both devoured Washington's catalogue, and would do his monolugues from Malcom X and Glory to improve their acting. Edward Norton has been writing fan letters to DW since He Got Game. His recent statements about DW are nothing new for him in a sense. Eric Bana says DW is his favorite actor, and he's learned more from watching him act than anyone. While he was alive, Bruno Ganz said Washington was his "hero" as an actor. Liam Neeson said DW is the one actor he hasn't worked with that he wants to because he admires the level of truth in his acting. There are tonnes more examples. Other great actors are not shy about singling out DW in idolatry fashion. Actors idolise DW. Maybe more across the board than DDL. It's no coincidence that DW has managed to score 8 Oscar nominations from the AMPAS acting branch, with only one Best Picture nomination. As much as actors adore DDL, I don't think even he could have gotten nominated for Roman J Israel Esq. I'll agree on Hanks though.
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Post by pacinoyes on Oct 31, 2019 11:32:27 GMT
He's in the running for GOAT Actor, because he's given consistently given massively acclaimed performances across film and stage for the last 30+ years. Including the last 9. With almost no majorly trashed performances. His fellow actors worship him in a way they do few other actors living or dead, which may count for something. Or not if you don't want it too. If it makes you feel better, do you. As long as people are aware of the reasons you are doing it (which I think most people here are), it's really not that big a deal anymore. "He's in the running for GOAT Actor" - Is he though? - He finished 13th in our poll........do you think 13th is too low? I think it's slightly high or maybe just right at best for someone with a patchy filmography, no breakthrough comedies, no BAFTA nods, etc. Is 13th such a bad thing anyway? You seem to think so - unless 13th is "in the running" - that someone who rated him as 13th or lower would be a "hater"?
"he's given consistently given massively acclaimed performances across film and stage for the last 30+ years. Including the last 9." Has he though? How massively acclaimed were say Equalizer 1 and 2 - were they "massively" acclaimed or is that a sort of an f'n lie .......Two Guns? Unstoppable? His fellow actors worship him in a way they do few other actors living or dead, which may count for something. Do they though? You don't know this really relative to how they feel about many others. You don't know this at all.I asked you for metrics or just reasons why you think he's the best, you gave me a resume of his successes like you would a dry cleaning list - you spoke about your favorite actor like he's an automaton. It's like if we asked you why you love your girlfriend/boyfriend and you said "because others have consistently rated her/him as physically attractive!".
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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 31, 2019 12:01:19 GMT
He's in the running for GOAT Actor, because he's given consistently given massively acclaimed performances across film and stage for the last 30+ years. Including the last 9. With almost no majorly trashed performances. His fellow actors worship him in a way they do few other actors living or dead, which may count for something. Or not if you don't want it too. If it makes you feel better, do you. As long as people are aware of the reasons you are doing it (which I think most people here are), it's really not that big a deal anymore. "He's in the running for GOAT Actor" - Is he though? - He finished 13th in our poll........do you think 13th is too low? I think it's slightly high or maybe just right at best for someone with a patchy filmography, no breakthrough comedies, no BAFTA nods, etc. Is 13th such a bad thing anyway? You seem to think so - unless 13th is "in the running" - that someone who rated him as 13th or lower would be a "hater"?
"he's given consistently given massively acclaimed performances across film and stage for the last 30+ years. Including the last 9." Has he though? How massively acclaimed were say Equalizer 1 and 2 - were they "massively" acclaimed or is that a sort of an f'n lie .......Two Guns? Unstoppable? His fellow actors worship him in a way they do few other actors living or dead, which may count for something. Do they though? You don't know this really relative to how they feel about many others. You don't know this at all.I asked you for metrics or just reasons why you think he's the best, you gave me a resume of his successes like you would a dry cleaning list - you spoke about your favorite actor like he's an automaton. It's like if we asked you why you love your girlfriend/boyfriend and you said "because others have consistently rated her/him as physically attractive!". If you say so , bro....the stuff you say has kind of lost impact with me for a huge variety of reasons. So yeah...whatever. Keep doing you. Fight the good fight against Denzel Goat Truthers or whatever
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Post by Good God on Oct 31, 2019 15:46:02 GMT
Benicio Del Toro said he studies Denzel's career to make his own choices. Matt Damon and Ben Affleck said as young actors, they both devoured Washington's catalogue, and would do his monolugues from Malcom X and Glory to improve their acting. Edward Norton has been writing fan letters to DW since He Got Game. His recent statements about DW are nothing new for him in a sense. Eric Bana says DW is his favorite actor, and he's learned more from watching him act than anyone. While he was alive, Bruno Ganz said Washington was his "hero" as an actor. Liam Neeson said DW is the one actor he hasn't worked with that he wants to because he admires the level of truth in his acting. There are tonnes more examples. Other great actors are not shy about singling out DW in idolatry fashion. So you're basically saying Denzel Washington is the GOAT because none of Del Toro, Damon, Affleck, Norton, Bana, Neeson, and Ganz called Denzel Washington the GOAT? I didn't know you'd become the GOAT if Liam Neeson wanted to work with you What ridiculous logic I guess Sean Penn is the GOAT because he got nominated for I Am Sam!
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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 31, 2019 16:18:57 GMT
Benicio Del Toro said he studies Denzel's career to make his own choices. Matt Damon and Ben Affleck said as young actors, they both devoured Washington's catalogue, and would do his monolugues from Malcom X and Glory to improve their acting. Edward Norton has been writing fan letters to DW since He Got Game. His recent statements about DW are nothing new for him in a sense. Eric Bana says DW is his favorite actor, and he's learned more from watching him act than anyone. While he was alive, Bruno Ganz said Washington was his "hero" as an actor. Liam Neeson said DW is the one actor he hasn't worked with that he wants to because he admires the level of truth in his acting. There are tonnes more examples. Other great actors are not shy about singling out DW in idolatry fashion. So you're basically saying Denzel Washington is the GOAT because none of Del Toro, Damon, Affleck, Norton, Bana, Neeson, and Ganz called Denzel Washington the GOAT? I didn't know you'd become the GOAT if Liam Neeson wanted to work with you What ridiculous logic I guess Sean Penn is the GOAT because he got nominated for I Am Sam! Jesus Christ you idiot, read the room. It's over. You can stop now. You are literally that fool that doesn't know when it's time to leave the party. *sigh* Also, I sometimes wonder if you are a racist. You follow me for years like insane a hound dog for stanning Denzel, but barely seem bothered by my stanning of Nicole Kidman. The occasional mention and troll for NK, but it's DW that really seems to get your goat. Guess the white lady is not much of an issue for you. It truly seems to bother you that I endorse a Negro as the best actor around. Something deeper has to be driving this. Saving srreenshots of everything I say....shit from nearly six years ago
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Post by Good God on Oct 31, 2019 16:31:07 GMT
Jesus Christ you idiot, read the room. It's over. You can stop now. You are literally that fool that doesn't know when it's time to leave the party. So I guess you don't have quotes from actors calling Denzel Washington the GOAT? I figured. Ah, yes, of course. I'm a racist for calling you out on your lies. Critics are racist for giving Casey Affleck awards for Manchester. BAFTA is racist for not nominating Washington. IMDb is racist for not having any Washington movies on the Top 250. Everybody who doesn't have a boner for Dreamy Denzel and doesn't suck him off at least once a day is racist Sure, honey.
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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 31, 2019 16:38:19 GMT
Jesus Christ you idiot, read the room. It's over. You can stop now. You are literally that fool that doesn't know when it's time to leave the party. So I guess you don't have quotes from actors calling Denzel Washington the GOAT? I figured. Ah, yes, of course. I'm a racist for calling you out on your lies. Critics are racist for giving Casey Affleck awards for Manchester. BAFTA is racist for not nominating Washington. IMDb is racist for not having any Washington movies on the Top 250. Everybody who doesn't have a boner for Dreamy Denzel and doesn't suck him off at least once a day is racist Sure, honey. Like I said, you know I stan a white actress almost as much as DW. But you don't constantly lose your shit, when I say Kidman is the best actress around or more talented than Streep, the supposed female GOAT . You main focus for "exposing my agenda" seems to be when I praise the black guy as the greatest, not the white woman. So yeah....logical conclusion. You aren't exactly equal opportunity are ya.
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Post by Good God on Oct 31, 2019 16:47:34 GMT
Like I said, you know I stan a white actress almost as much as DW. But you don't constantly lose your shit, when I say Kidman is the best actress around or more talented than Streep, the supposed female GOAT . You main focus for "exposing my agenda" seems to be when I praise the black guy as the greatest, not the white woman. So yeah....logical conclusion. You aren't exactly equal opportunity are ya. 1. You make far more shit up about Washington than you do about Kidman 2. I'm a fan of Brando, De Niro, Day-Lewis, and DiCaprio, and these are guys you often diss on in propping up Washington. I'm not a fan of Winslet, Blanchett, or Streep 3. I know your boner for Washington is about 10 times bigger than your boner for Kidman, so I'm going to hit you where it hurts Regardless, I've called you out on all your lies about Kidman too. Not my fault that you lie 10 times as often about Washington than you do about Kidman. If anybody is the racist here, it's you. You're driven almost to the point of hilarity by racial prejudice. Like I've said in the past, I can guarantee that you yourself are Black and are racially motivated in your stanning for Washington. It's why you always have to play the race card to benefit your agenda and when it suits you, like here. Your red herring is not going to work against me, chief. I'm still going to call you out on your lies. Oh, here are all the racists according to Poop Scrud
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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 31, 2019 16:51:44 GMT
Like I said, you know I stan a white actress almost as much as DW. But you don't constantly lose your shit, when I say Kidman is the best actress around or more talented than Streep, the supposed female GOAT . You main focus for "exposing my agenda" seems to be when I praise the black guy as the greatest, not the white woman. So yeah....logical conclusion. You aren't exactly equal opportunity are ya. 1. You make far more shit up about Washington than you do about Kidman 2. I'm a fan of Brando, De Niro, Day-Lewis, and DiCaprio, and these are guys you often diss on in propping up Washington. I'm not a fan of Winslet, Blanchett, or Streep 3. I know your boner for Washington is about 10 times bigger than your boner for Kidman, so I'm going to hit you where it hurts Regardless, I've called you out on all your lies about Kidman too. Not my fault that you lie 10 times as often about Washington than you do about Kidman. If anybody is the racist here, it's you. You're driven almost to the point of hilarity by racial prejudice. Like I've said in the past, I can guarantee that you yourself are Black and are racially motivated in your stanning for Washington. It's why you always have to play the race card to benefit your agenda and when it suits you, like here. Your red herring is not going to work against me, chief. I'm still going to call you out on your lies. Oh, here are all the racists according to Poop Scrud Wow.... you sure didn't sound like a Racist with that post . Thanks for confirming
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Post by Good God on Oct 31, 2019 16:53:01 GMT
Wow.... you sure didn't sound like a Racist with that post . Thanks for confirming LOL, so the "psycho stalker" thing didn't work out for you, so now you're trying the "racist" card, huh? Good luck
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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 31, 2019 16:54:51 GMT
Wow.... you sure didn't sound like a Racist with that post . Thanks for confirming LOL, so the "psycho stalker" thing didn't work out for you, so now you're trying the "racist" card, huh? Good luck They don't have to be mutually exclusive. Racism can be classed as a mental illness, so it's just another manifestation of your pathology.
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Post by pupdurcs on Oct 31, 2019 16:56:13 GMT
So I got a Racist Psycho Stalker
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Post by Good God on Oct 31, 2019 17:04:23 GMT
They don't have to be mutually exclusive. Racism can be classed as a mental illness, so it's just another manifestation of your pathology. Racism isn't a mental illness. It's just a stupid worldview. You're delusional and stupid, so it makes sense that you're racially prejudiced.
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