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Post by jimmalone on Jun 5, 2020 20:37:44 GMT
I have long been saying that history is the most important subject to be taught at school. I don't know when you start learning this in the USA, but in my country it's only at the age of 11 and only two hours a week and I say that's not enough. I definitely agree with you on this. The basic duty of a country's educational system is to shape the youth so they become active citizens and to cultivate their critical thinking, so they always strive for the betterment of themselves and of society. And, as you say, the most important subject through which that is achieved is history. History teaches us a lot about our society, how it progressed through the years, what mistakes were made that lead to regression ect. History always functioned as a compass for the future, therefore through the critical analysis of history, society can progress and improve. Sadly, history, in general, isn't being given the importance it deserves in schools. Yeah and from what I've heard it's even worse in the US than in european countries. My sister was an exchange student in the USA for one semester. She isn't well-educated in history herself (at least I would say so and she would agree), but she was quite shocked by the poor standard of history (and geography) lessons in the USA.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Jun 6, 2020 0:20:37 GMT
It's hard to wrap my head around what a heartless monster Trump is.Imagine saying this. Can't stop cringing. "I have long been saying that history is the most important subject to be taught at school. I don't know when you start learning this in the USA, but in my country it's only at the age of 11 and only two hours a week and I say that's not enough." I learned more about history outside of school. From my experience, in US schools, we were fed this sanitized, misleading version of history, especially American History. It was actually my least favorite subject in school because even as a kid, I didn't buy what I was being sold. And unfortunately, people of certain generations have been kept in the dark about various events. I tell my mother certain things that she says were completely left out of her curriculum growing up. With the easy access they have to resources today, I encourage young people to also seek out information on their own.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 6, 2020 13:05:27 GMT
Donald Trump is a gross mess but so is our US press and so is Joe Biden - when Fox News for Godsakes - has to give you the actual truth - the literal truth and context - then you might as well give up on our electoral system. The spreading of an edited clip - THAT'S using George Floyd's death - politically and grossly.
Just watch the first 2 minutes - the rest after that is Fox and their usual disgusting BS - but watch what Trump actually said and ....yeah fnck Trump but no more than fnck Joe Biden for exploiting it and the media too (Jake Tapper etc.) - look at the 3 cynical exploiters of a man's death.
A pox on all their houses.....
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Jun 6, 2020 17:21:09 GMT
Donald Trump is a gross mess but so is our US press and so is Joe Biden - when Fox News for Godsakes - has to give you the actual truth - the literal truth and context - then you might as well give up on our electoral system. The spreading of an edited clip - THAT'S using George Floyd's death - politically and grossly. Just watch the first 2 minutes - the rest after that is Fox and their usual disgusting BS - but watch what Trump actually said and ....yeah fnck Trump but no more than fnck Joe Biden for exploiting it and the media too (Jake Tapper etc.) - look at the 3 cynical exploiters of a man's death. A pox on all their houses..... Yes, you're right for calling out all sides. I see exploitation all around of this man's death. Whether it's Trump and Biden (who have one thing in common: foot-in-mouth disease), the press, or the people who don't give a damn about Floyd's memory and just want free shit, it's everywhere. Salute to the people who actually care and have no agenda/ulterior motives.
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Post by Film Socialism on Jun 6, 2020 23:11:10 GMT
approval for burning down a police station is now higher than approval for either of the leading presidential candidates lmao
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2020 20:55:41 GMT
After the last four years, are we still going to try to push the "both sides are equally bad" narrative? Wake the fuck up, people.
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Post by Martin Stett on Jun 7, 2020 23:17:20 GMT
After the last four years, are we still going to try to push the "both sides are equally bad" narrative? Wake the fuck up, people. I'm pushing the "cops aren't the bad guys" narrative, in 99.9% of cases. Yes, the Floyd murder was evil. But cops are not oppressors.
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Post by Sharbs on Jun 7, 2020 23:30:41 GMT
9/13 Minneapolis City Council members commit to Disassemble the MPD, which is enough to not only pass any legislation, but to also overrule a veto from the mayor (who got shamed out of a protest yesterday). Committee has plans to divest massive MPD funds into community-led organizations for emergency response, mental health, education, housing, food & medicine structures, etc.. Lots of questions arise regarding coordination with St. Paul, about cooperation with intelligence agencies, private sector security, etc. Most of Minneapolis City Council pledges to 'begin the process of ending' police departmentWOW, unbelievable to witness.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 7, 2020 23:36:13 GMT
After the last four years, are we still going to try to push the "both sides are equally bad" narrative? Wake the fuck up, people. I'm pushing the "cops aren't the bad guys" narrative, in 99.9% of cases. Yes, the Floyd murder was evil. But cops are not oppressors. Well maybe we can all just try to live without any cops for one day in a major city in America and see how that works out for all of us.......I'm kinda thinking that it's not going to be so great kstp.com/news/majority-of-minneapolis-city-council-announces-support-for-dismantling-police-department/5753304/
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jun 8, 2020 0:33:28 GMT
After the last four years, are we still going to try to push the "both sides are equally bad" narrative? Wake the fuck up, people. I'm pushing the "cops aren't the bad guys" narrative, in 99.9% of cases. Yes, the Floyd murder was evil. But cops are not oppressors. I think that’s way too high a percentage. I agree that cops aren’t the bad guys in a vast majority, but realistically closer to 80-85% of the time. Give or take
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Jun 8, 2020 1:28:57 GMT
Unless you're not actually paying attention, I don't see how anyone can see video after video after video released of police failing to deescalate, always resorting to force (often for no reason), attacking peaceful protestors, violating people's rights, and not think that there's a deep systemic problem. And it's not just the thousands of bad cops, but the deafening silence and inaction of the ones not speaking out or interfering when they see their colleagues do this shit. Not here for the "most cops aren't bad" mantra.
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Post by quetee on Jun 8, 2020 2:09:59 GMT
Unless you're not actually paying attention, I don't see how anyone can see video after video after video released of police failing to deescalate, always resorting to force (often for no reason), attacking peaceful protestors, violating people's rights, and not think that there's a deep systemic problem. And it's not just the thousands of bad cops, but the deafening silence and inaction of the ones not speaking out or interfering when they see their colleagues do this shit. Not here for the "most cops aren't bad" mantra. I agree. I'm not saying get rid of the police, but I think some of them need to be fired due to their bad behavior. They can no longer turn a blind eye. What we really need to ask is why are a lot of them acting like assholes? During this whole lock down, I called the police a month ago to report something and the guy yelled at me on the other end. I told him that I needed to speak with his supervisor. Why in the hell would you yell at a citizen who is trying to explain something that happened?
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Post by Martin Stett on Jun 8, 2020 3:06:31 GMT
Unless you're not actually paying attention, I don't see how anyone can see video after video after video released of police failing to deescalate, always resorting to force (often for no reason), attacking peaceful protestors, violating people's rights, and not think that there's a deep systemic problem. And it's not just the thousands of bad cops, but the deafening silence and inaction of the ones not speaking out or interfering when they see their colleagues do this shit. Not here for the "most cops aren't bad" mantra. I agree. I'm not saying get rid of the police, but I think some of them need to be fired due to their bad behavior. They can no longer turn a blind eye. What we really need to ask is why are a lot of them acting like assholes? During this whole lock down, I called the police a month ago to report something and the guy yelled at me on the other end. I told him that I needed to speak with his supervisor. Why in the hell would you yell at a citizen who is trying to explain something that happened? See, I just want discussion of a solution. That's why I brought up earlier what the police can do to rehabilitate their image: they need a cleaning out, and they need to find a way to do that. I guess that I'm just getting defensive about all the talk of "pigs" that is going on everywhere. I'm not in law enforcement, but I referee soccer matches, which is similar in its crowd control aspects. The lack of common sense among coaches (a few in particular) and spectators (a good deal more) in them thinking that they can scream and fight against the official or the opponent only succeeds in making refs get more strict and more harsh, because there is no choice. And sometimes, it can go too far. I've seen it, I've done it. But people need to stay in line: if they civilly protest a call or a mistake, the referee will note it and make damn sure that he's right the next time. And if he's right the next time and it still goes against the coach, he can say that he's damn sure and give a detailed account of how he's correct. To apply this to the police, the all-out warfare against an entire nation of police is absolutely mind boggling. Civil communication and a demand for transparency should work, but people are angry, and making everyone who isn't ranting and screaming with them the enemy. And the more this anger is directed at the police, the less the police will give a shit about keeping their cool. Let the investigators get their ducks in a row, and charge the accused as is right by the law. This applies to the murder of George Floyd, this applies to the murder of Ahmad Arbery. In Arbery's case, I believe that two or three prosecutors had to recuse themselves from the case, and that delayed things as they found a prosecutor who didn't know the killers and who then had to look at the case. I could be wrong on that, but I believe that's how it shook out. I just... I don't understand mass riots, looting, killing. Under any circumstances. If there is an issue you have with law enforcement, you vote, you communicate with lawmakers (which is just as good as voting, as very few people actually communicate with their representatives), you get involved in a legal, civil manner. Maybe I'm naive. But I'd rather be naive than rioting.
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Post by quetee on Jun 8, 2020 4:26:26 GMT
I agree. I'm not saying get rid of the police, but I think some of them need to be fired due to their bad behavior. They can no longer turn a blind eye. What we really need to ask is why are a lot of them acting like assholes? During this whole lock down, I called the police a month ago to report something and the guy yelled at me on the other end. I told him that I needed to speak with his supervisor. Why in the hell would you yell at a citizen who is trying to explain something that happened? See, I just want discussion of a solution. That's why I brought up earlier what the police can do to rehabilitate their image: they need a cleaning out, and they need to find a way to do that. I guess that I'm just getting defensive about all the talk of "pigs" that is going on everywhere. I'm not in law enforcement, but I referee soccer matches, which is similar in its crowd control aspects. The lack of common sense among coaches (a few in particular) and spectators (a good deal more) in them thinking that they can scream and fight against the official or the opponent only succeeds in making refs get more strict and more harsh, because there is no choice. And sometimes, it can go too far. I've seen it, I've done it. But people need to stay in line: if they civilly protest a call or a mistake, the referee will note it and make damn sure that he's right the next time. And if he's right the next time and it still goes against the coach, he can say that he's damn sure and give a detailed account of how he's correct. To apply this to the police, the all-out warfare against an entire nation of police is absolutely mind boggling. Civil communication and a demand for transparency should work, but people are angry, and making everyone who isn't ranting and screaming with them the enemy. And the more this anger is directed at the police, the less the police will give a shit about keeping their cool. Let the investigators get their ducks in a row, and charge the accused as is right by the law. This applies to the murder of George Floyd, this applies to the murder of Ahmad Arbery. In Arbery's case, I believe that two or three prosecutors had to recuse themselves from the case, and that delayed things as they found a prosecutor who didn't know the killers and who then had to look at the case. I could be wrong on that, but I believe that's how it shook out. I just... I don't understand mass riots, looting, killing. Under any circumstances. If there is an issue you have with law enforcement, you vote, you communicate with lawmakers (which is just as good as voting, as very few people actually communicate with their representatives), you get involved in a legal, civil manner. Maybe I'm naive. But I'd rather be naive than rioting. People are at the point of no return right now and they feel that the only way to get attention is to riot. Do I agree with that no, but that is what they are saying. Rather than complain about them doing it maybe someone should ask them why. The problem that I have is that people who simply want to protest are being treated as if they are looting and rioting and they are not doing that so why is the police treating them like that. In LA, last weekend, it was reported that out of 700 people, 70 were arrested for looting and the other 630 were protesting. If the numbers are that low, then why is looting the narrative? As for the police, they have had plenty of time to get their shit together. They don't get rid of the bad apples. They just let them rot. How is that going to help things? It makes it worst because it means that so many of them are complicit. This is the problem. They don't want to admit they have one so the cycle continues. I'll give you an example of something that happened at my job. We have this manager that is mentally abusive. She has had complaints filed against her. I have even stated that this person should not be supervising anyone cause she doesn't know how to treat people. So the people in charge, what do they do?? After all those complaints? They still give her people to supervise. And low and behold, she mistreated someone again just this past year. So someone like her can't be in charge of people. She should not have a staff but the people in charge continue to allow it. That is the same problem with the police. They allow people they know who are not equip to handle the job continue to handle the job. Until the higher ups practice self-awareness and get rid of all the bad apples then this problem will continue.
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Post by Martin Stett on Jun 8, 2020 4:36:02 GMT
See, I just want discussion of a solution. That's why I brought up earlier what the police can do to rehabilitate their image: they need a cleaning out, and they need to find a way to do that. I guess that I'm just getting defensive about all the talk of "pigs" that is going on everywhere. I'm not in law enforcement, but I referee soccer matches, which is similar in its crowd control aspects. The lack of common sense among coaches (a few in particular) and spectators (a good deal more) in them thinking that they can scream and fight against the official or the opponent only succeeds in making refs get more strict and more harsh, because there is no choice. And sometimes, it can go too far. I've seen it, I've done it. But people need to stay in line: if they civilly protest a call or a mistake, the referee will note it and make damn sure that he's right the next time. And if he's right the next time and it still goes against the coach, he can say that he's damn sure and give a detailed account of how he's correct. To apply this to the police, the all-out warfare against an entire nation of police is absolutely mind boggling. Civil communication and a demand for transparency should work, but people are angry, and making everyone who isn't ranting and screaming with them the enemy. And the more this anger is directed at the police, the less the police will give a shit about keeping their cool. Let the investigators get their ducks in a row, and charge the accused as is right by the law. This applies to the murder of George Floyd, this applies to the murder of Ahmad Arbery. In Arbery's case, I believe that two or three prosecutors had to recuse themselves from the case, and that delayed things as they found a prosecutor who didn't know the killers and who then had to look at the case. I could be wrong on that, but I believe that's how it shook out. I just... I don't understand mass riots, looting, killing. Under any circumstances. If there is an issue you have with law enforcement, you vote, you communicate with lawmakers (which is just as good as voting, as very few people actually communicate with their representatives), you get involved in a legal, civil manner. Maybe I'm naive. But I'd rather be naive than rioting. People are at the point of no return right now and they feel that the only way to get attention is to riot. Do I agree with that no, but that is what they are saying. Rather than complain about them doing it maybe someone should ask them why. The problem that I have is that people who simply want to protest are being treated as if they are looting and rioting and they are not doing that so why is the police treating them like that. In LA, last weekend, it was reported that out of 700 people, 70 were arrested for looting and the other 630 were protesting. If the numbers are that low, then why is looting the narrative? As for the police, they have had plenty of time to get their shit together. They don't get rid of the bad apples. They just let them rot. How is that going to help things? It makes it worst because it means that so many of them are complicit. This is the problem. They don't want to admit they have one so the cycle continues. I'll give you an example of something that happened at my job. We have this manager that is mentally abusive. She has had complaints filed against her. I have even stated that this person should not be supervising anyone cause she doesn't know how to treat people. So the people in charge, what do they do?? After all those complaints? They still give her people to supervise. And low and behold, she mistreated someone again just this past year. So someone like her can't be in charge of people. She should not have a staff but the people in charge continue to allow it. That is the same problem with the police. They allow people they know who are not equip to handle the job continue to handle the job. Until the higher ups practice self-awareness and get rid of all the bad apples then this problem will continue. I'd argue that rioting is the narrative in the same way that the cops killing people is the narrative: the ugliest cases become the most talked about, and they flavor the discourse. Furthermore, protesting isn't illegal, so those 630 have been accused of some other crime. Don't be disingenuous. And if there is a problem with a police officer, by all means, do what you must to have that officer removed... within the law. "So many bad apples." How many? Derek Chauvin is one case that we know of, with many complaints against him. I am unaware (really, I'm in untested waters) how many officers have several serious complaints and what police departments haven't done about them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2020 6:35:42 GMT
I got the impression from the news that they're going to just completely revamp the police as we know them (which I'm very much in favor of and would be surprised if a lot of people weren't at this point, honestly - even the most ardent cop defenders I've run into have been admitting that in too many cases, the level of abuse of power these people are demonstrating or abiding is out of control) not literally get rid of any kind of law enforcement - I can't imagine the latter is going to ever happen.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 8, 2020 6:58:45 GMT
I got the impression from the news that they're going to just completely revamp the police as we know them (which I'm very much in favor of and would be surprised if a lot of people weren't at this point, honestly - even the most ardent cop defenders I've run into have been admitting that in too many cases, the level of abuse of power these people are demonstrating or abiding is out of control) not literally get rid of any kind of law enforcement - I can't imagine the latter is going to ever happen. I look forward to hearing more about it then......the word being used is "dismantle" not revamp - "dismantle" is in the link by a member of council and.......here is Ilhan Omar using that same word yesterday. I find "dismantle" quite terrifying actually and not progressive ........hope the Minneapolis Police are not "dismantled" obviously........"revamped" yes, of course.
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Post by stephen on Jun 8, 2020 12:03:48 GMT
I got the impression from the news that they're going to just completely revamp the police as we know them (which I'm very much in favor of and would be surprised if a lot of people weren't at this point, honestly - even the most ardent cop defenders I've run into have been admitting that in too many cases, the level of abuse of power these people are demonstrating or abiding is out of control) not literally get rid of any kind of law enforcement - I can't imagine the latter is going to ever happen. I look forward to hearing more about it then......the word being used is "dismantle" not revamp - "dismantle" is in the link by a member of council and.......here is Ilhan Omar using that same word yesterday. I find "dismantle" quite terrifying actually and not progressive ........hope the Minneapolis Police are not "dismantled" obviously........"revamped" yes, of course. The term "dismantle" implies breaking the entire thing down with the idea of possibly reassembling it. "Revamping" is far too superficial a term; it implies that you're fine with the core workings of the unit, but you simply want to give it a polish and a shine. They've trotted out the "revamping" term countless times over the years and it's gotten them nowhere. They want to break down the currently existing system and build something new. In order to do that, you have to dismantle it. Does that mean it's going to be easy? Hell no. But America's had a nasty habit of kicking the can down the road when it should've been able to deal with issues like this ages ago. It has nobody but itself to blame.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 8, 2020 13:14:26 GMT
I look forward to hearing more about it then......the word being used is "dismantle" not revamp - "dismantle" is in the link by a member of council and.......here is Ilhan Omar using that same word yesterday. I find "dismantle" quite terrifying actually and not progressive ........hope the Minneapolis Police are not "dismantled" obviously........"revamped" yes, of course. The term "dismantle" implies breaking the entire thing down with the idea of possibly reassembling it. "Revamping" is far too superficial a term; it implies that you're fine with the core workings of the unit, but you simply want to give it a polish and a shine. They've trotted out the "revamping" term countless times over the years and it's gotten them nowhere. They want to break down the currently existing system and build something new. In order to do that, you have to dismantle it. Does that mean it's going to be easy? Hell no. But America's had a nasty habit of kicking the can down the road when it should've been able to deal with issues like this ages ago. It has nobody but itself to blame. I guess I'm just old-fashioned but I really really love the police in my town - the police do all kinds of good stuff like you know stopping people from invading my house and taking my things and killing me and stuff like that...........the word "dismantle" has an actual definition: "take (a machine or structure) to pieces".......all the rest is semantics - I really don't need anyone to say what a term "implies" when the side using the exact word could you know, just as easily use other words - it's not just a battle between those 2 words only is it? I'm saying "dismantle" is the exact wrong word to use ........but ok, sure let's play it the semantics way just to agree on a movie message board: ........ whatever "pieces" they get rid of I hope it helps with the specific problem rather than creating a whole set of new ones: It better still be called "the police" or something like that so we can at least different "whatever they're called" from "the criminals"- it's not one and the same thng - and they better still have guns just like they do right now .............in every urban area in America .........or else America will have nobody to blame but itself for that mess either actually.
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Post by mhynson27 on Jun 8, 2020 13:24:04 GMT
The term "dismantle" implies breaking the entire thing down with the idea of possibly reassembling it. "Revamping" is far too superficial a term; it implies that you're fine with the core workings of the unit, but you simply want to give it a polish and a shine. They've trotted out the "revamping" term countless times over the years and it's gotten them nowhere. They want to break down the currently existing system and build something new. In order to do that, you have to dismantle it. Does that mean it's going to be easy? Hell no. But America's had a nasty habit of kicking the can down the road when it should've been able to deal with issues like this ages ago. It has nobody but itself to blame. I guess I'm just old-fashioned but I really really love the police in my town - the police do all kinds of good stuff like you know stopping people from invading my house and taking my things and killing me and stuff like that...........the word "dismantle" has an actual definition: "take (a machine or structure) to pieces".......all the rest is semantics - I really don't need anyone to say what a term "implies" when the side using the exact word could you know, just as easily use other words - it's not just a battle between those 2 words only is it? I'm saying "dismantle" is the exact wrong word to use ........ but ok, sure let's play it the semantics way just to agree on a movie message board: ........ whatever "pieces" they get rid of I hope it helps with the specific problem rather than creating a whole set of new ones: It better still be called "the police" or something like that so we can at least different "whatever they're called" from "the criminals"- it's not one and the same thng - and they better still have guns just like they do right now .............in every urban area in America .........or else America will have nobody to blame but itself for that mess either actually. Oh come on, you should be the last person on here to accuse other people of using semantics to try and win an argument.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 8, 2020 13:29:22 GMT
Oh come on, you should be the last person on here to accuse other people of using semantics to try and win an argument. I'm intrigued by this theory because my reputation on this board I think is actually being a stickler for "facts" specifically - ie calling people out when they misrepresent anything. Can you give me an example of what you're referring to ..........? Can you back that provocative statement up?
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Post by Film Socialism on Jun 8, 2020 14:01:54 GMT
not gonna reply to anyone specifically here but the thing that fucks me up the most about police brutality vids is how no cops ever react or report anyone or do anything which to me signals that they are all to blame
also lmao i can't believe they're killing their police force, hooooly shit hahaha
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Jun 8, 2020 14:38:19 GMT
This feels relevant to the conversation in this thread:
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Post by quetee on Jun 8, 2020 16:41:03 GMT
People are at the point of no return right now and they feel that the only way to get attention is to riot. Do I agree with that no, but that is what they are saying. Rather than complain about them doing it maybe someone should ask them why. The problem that I have is that people who simply want to protest are being treated as if they are looting and rioting and they are not doing that so why is the police treating them like that. In LA, last weekend, it was reported that out of 700 people, 70 were arrested for looting and the other 630 were protesting. If the numbers are that low, then why is looting the narrative? As for the police, they have had plenty of time to get their shit together. They don't get rid of the bad apples. They just let them rot. How is that going to help things? It makes it worst because it means that so many of them are complicit. This is the problem. They don't want to admit they have one so the cycle continues. I'll give you an example of something that happened at my job. We have this manager that is mentally abusive. She has had complaints filed against her. I have even stated that this person should not be supervising anyone cause she doesn't know how to treat people. So the people in charge, what do they do?? After all those complaints? They still give her people to supervise. And low and behold, she mistreated someone again just this past year. So someone like her can't be in charge of people. She should not have a staff but the people in charge continue to allow it. That is the same problem with the police. They allow people they know who are not equip to handle the job continue to handle the job. Until the higher ups practice self-awareness and get rid of all the bad apples then this problem will continue. I'd argue that rioting is the narrative in the same way that the cops killing people is the narrative: the ugliest cases become the most talked about, and they flavor the discourse. Furthermore, protesting isn't illegal, so those 630 have been accused of some other crime. Don't be disingenuous. And if there is a problem with a police officer, by all means, do what you must to have that officer removed... within the law. "So many bad apples." How many? Derek Chauvin is one case that we know of, with many complaints against him. I am unaware (really, I'm in untested waters) how many officers have several serious complaints and what police departments haven't done about them. Rioting has been the narrative for approx a week now. Police have been killing people for years. Those 630 people were arrested due to unlawful assembly. That was because they enforced the curfew which was decided during the whole thing. Point remains they arrested those people who were protesting period. This is what actor Cole Sprouse said: " We were given the option to leave, and were informed that if we did not retreat, we would be arrested," Sprouse wrote in an Instagram post. "When many did turn to leave, we found another line of police officers blocking our route, at which point, they started zip tying us."Are you serious right now? Do what you must do to remove them? How is that even possible when like I have repeated countless times the higher ups will not do anything about it.
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