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Post by FrancescoAbides on Jun 8, 2018 23:29:25 GMT
Hyped for both, but Scorsese, man
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Post by jakesully on Jun 9, 2018 3:04:41 GMT
Also , just wanted to say that I am a bit weary of the "de aging " shit that the Irishman is using. It can be super distracting from what I've seen in other films . But with that said, to see Pacino & De Niro back together again in anyway on screen is definitely a dream come true .
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Post by tastytomatoes on Jun 17, 2018 15:41:23 GMT
While a trailer can greatly sway my interest, I'm more hyped for Once Upon A Time in Hollywood because of the astonishing Pitt+DiCaprio+Pacino team-up.
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Post by DeepArcher on Jun 17, 2018 17:19:48 GMT
The Irishman, I guess? Once Upon a Time in Hollywood seems like a recipe for disaster and will probably be a hot mess at best. I'm wary on The Irishman but I have faith in Scorsese to pull it off.
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Post by SeanJoyce on Jun 20, 2018 18:24:31 GMT
Well just as a Pacino fan and on thematic material, I know his role is significant in The Irishman and the character of Jimmy Hoffa, is one of the great characters in 20th century America and it has never been done right. I take it you've never seen Blood Feud...the best thing Robert Blake has done outside of In Cold Blood.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 20, 2018 19:49:55 GMT
Hey Sean - I am a rather huge Robert Blake fan actually and I love him in Blood Feud although that film is so much focused on the Kennedy's and him specifically I think it misses the real interest of his life overall which was the mechanics of union organizing and control and how he skirted and crossed the legal line in his interactions with the mob.
I'll be happy if Pacino, who is not ideal for Hoffa by any means, is half as good as Blake was though and I hope people who see this film as "Scorsese does the mob again" realize that it's Hoffa's presence in this story that make this a more ambitious and broad film than what other mob films have attempted.
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Post by stephen on Jun 20, 2018 19:54:28 GMT
Hey Sean - I am a rather huge Robert Blake fan actually and I love him in Blood Feud although that film is so much focused on the Kennedy's and him specifically I think it misses the real interest of his life overall which was the mechanics of union organizing and control and how he skirted and crossed the legal line in his interactions with the mob. I'll be happy if Pacino, who is not ideal for Hoffa by any means, is half as good as Blake was though and I hope people who see this film as "Scorsese does the mob again" realize that it's Hoffa's presence in this story that make this a more ambitious and broad film than what other mob films have attempted. On a tangential topic, Pac, have you read James Ellroy's masterful Underworld U.S.A. trilogy? I've long wanted it to be a three-season series on either HBO or FX (preferably the latter nowadays, as they seem more willing to commit to a series endgame). Hoffa's a fairly substantial character in the first novel.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 20, 2018 20:21:41 GMT
I've only read the first novel American Tabloid but liked it a good bit - I don't often like that mixing of fact and fiction but there it works really well as sort of larger alternate history. In some ways I'd watch anything dealing with that era because its recent enough that you feel you know it and far enough away to seem almost otherworldly too (the same thing applies to Chinatown imo - it seems mythic).
There's a cheapo and amateurish documentary on Youtube weirdly called "Irishman Netflix True Story of Jimmy Hoffa" - that I watched like it was the greatest thing ever - every character, even the most peripheral seems to live the most oddly contradictory life. Hoffa leaves school at 14, works 3 jobs and rises to a position he was born to have that forced him to interact people he would have to see as hypocrites (the Kennedy's for one, Frank Fitzsimmons).
Like those kinds of stories don't really happen quite that way now, in some ways America was never more open or more desperate.
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