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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Jan 19, 2024 6:05:31 GMT
He's good often but he doesn't have that one top level performance. Have you seen Wolf of Wall Street yet?? I seem to remember you noting you hadn't seen it in a Scorsese/Leo ranking thread a few months ago...
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Post by stephen on Jan 19, 2024 11:58:43 GMT
Makes sense. He's going to go down as one of the greats and a lot of the criticisms thrown at him will come out in the wash like all iconic actors before him. I do think Scorsese honestly does believe that Leo does great work. Leo allows him to paint on a much larger canvas, but it's not like Scorsese wouldn't be able to get any film off the ground without Leo. He enjoys working with him and makes him central to his work; I doubt he'd repeat it so much for just any bankable star, though it'd be hilarious to see what Scorsese would do with someone like The Rock. "Can you find the wolves in this picture?" *arches eyebrow*
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jan 19, 2024 14:24:24 GMT
While I wouldn’t put him at the level of DeNiro/Pacino/Nicholson/Day-Lewis but would out him ahead of Brando/Bogart/Olivier, I do think there’s a major disconnect from how this board (and film Twitter perhaps) views him as an actor vs the general public. The general public certainly views him as one of the all-time best actors. And I’d venture to say the industry and his peers lean more towards the general public viewpoint regarding him.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 19, 2024 14:32:17 GMT
Glad to se this thread is so active, that it justifies a thread because I said it did fuck you - if you don't like it stay out of it lots of good points - and just for the record Gerard Depardieu has still not been brought into a courtroom after 3+ years but Jonathan Majors lost in criminal court and Rafael Nadal lost the Grand Slam race .......and his hair........just sayin'..... Side note: I'd stress that the DiCap argument works better if you compare him at this stage to De Niro - 49 - which was De Niro's age in 1992........ Pacino doesn't exactly fit since he was so inactive and had such a large theater footprint up until his late 60s when he started appearing in everything but porn - except in his real life which is kind of like porn at 83 isn't it .........Nicholson was 49 in 1986 and again DiCaprio's career is comparable..........as for his talent........as you can tell ymmv........
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Post by futuretrunks on Jan 20, 2024 7:19:11 GMT
DiCaprio's 2006 was a revelation. You might not get it, but that's on you. He went from a sporadically interesting and incandescent talent to...king of Hollywood. Whether he eclipses Pacino et al. at this point is solely dependent on if he buckles and starts doing bad movies by nobody directors routinely, like so many legends have sadly done.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 20, 2024 9:35:15 GMT
DiCaprio's 2006 was a revelation. You might not get it, but that's on you. He went from a sporadically interesting and incandescent talent to...king of Hollywood. Whether he eclipses Pacino et al. at this point is solely dependent on if he buckles and starts doing bad movies by nobody directors routinely, like so many legends have sadly done. I think ths is one of the myths imo or i you believe it - "the Sports fan analogy" in the DDL topic why some rank him extremely high - top 3 / 5 or higher: * When the greatest actors make bad movies - prior to DDL at least - no one thinks that makes them LESS great because the greatest actors have a deep enough filmography already to swerve that - ie The Deer Hunter is not lessened by Rocky and Bullwinkle - it's worth a million of Rocky and Bullwinkle - but you have to have a Deer Hunter under your belt already ffs - now it can affect an actor's stature not at that absolute highest level - but you're saying DiCap is already AT close to that level anyway........so to me he can afford to go weird / risky imoI think maybe something realyl odd or challenging that ISN'T necessaily baity would be good for him.........him doing Basic Training of Pavlo Hummel on stage or as a film would have been cool and he almost tried that.......... I dunno what that means now though at ~50 but I do know Bradley Cooper is still getting nods, will win one day AND has The Elephant Man under his belt which was a huge risk.......... Reminds me of a famous old quote but you can swap out the actors to get the overall point: "Marlon Brando can make 100 movies that are awful and he'll always be Marlon Brando. Charlton Heston could make a hundred great ones and he'll never be close to Marlon Brando"
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 20, 2024 16:00:32 GMT
I don't think it's really been covered that DiCaprio's lack of a stage career or pedigree may be something that also holds him back reputation wise. If the guy was out there conquering Broadway or the West End, would he still be doubted by anyone? He really should take on the challenge. There's a reason all these Hollywood stars (Jessica Chastain, Samuel L Jackson etc) do Broadway every season. They know how much it adds to their bonafides as an actor. It's not like they do it for the money. Stage is the actors medium.
Almost all the greats have a stage pedigree. Brando, Washington, Pacino, Hoffman, Hackman, DeNiro. Oldman & Day-Lewis eventually abandoned stage, but they started there and did at least a full decade of it professionally. I feel Olivier's reputation survives to the extent it has mostly because of his stage career, because I think he was a significantly overrated screen actor, imho. People truly underestimate how much a stage pedigree impacts how you are percieved, especially by peers who have done both stage and screen. Nicholson is the only great from the older generations with little to no stage pedigree, and I feel it's held back his reputation a little bit, despite being the most Oscar Nominated male actor ever. He's often seen as being less accomplished/gifted than Pacino, DeNiro, Brando and more of a charisma monster. I don't think Nicholson has the same respect level with stage actors, as he does with those who mainly do screen.
To me it's baffling that almost no one from DiCaprio's generation ( Bale, Phoenix as well) have recognised how much a major stage career or run could completely put them over the rest of their peer group, reputationally. They all seem scared of taking the risk.
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Post by sirchuck23 on Jan 20, 2024 17:11:20 GMT
I don't think it's really been covered that DiCaprio's lack of a stage career or pedigree may be something that also holds him back reputation wise. If the guy was out there conquering Broadway or the West End, would he still be doubted by anyone? He really should take on the challenge. There's a reason all these Hollywood stars ( Jessica Chastain, Samuel L Jackson etc) do Broadway every season. They know how much it adds to their bonafides as an actor. It's not like they do it for the money. Stage is the actors medium. Almost all the greats have a stage pedigree. Brando, Washington, Pacino, Hoffman, Hackman, DeNiro. Oldman & Day-Lewis eventually abandoned stage, but they started there and did at least a full decade of it professionally. I feel Olivier's reputation survives to the extent it has mostly because of his stage career, because I think he was a significantly overrated screen actor, imho. People truly underestimate how much a stage pedigree impacts how you are percieved, especially by peers who have done both stage and screen. Nicholson is the only great from the older generations with little to no stage pedigree, and I feel it's held back his reputation a little bit, despite being the most Oscar Nominated male actor ever. He's often seen as being less accomplished/gifted than Pacino, DeNiro, Brando and more of a charisma monster. I don't think Nicholson has the same respect level with stage actors, as he does with those who mainly do screen. To me it's baffling that almost no one from DiCaprio's generation ( Bale, Phoenix as well) have recognised how much a major stage career or run could completely put them over the rest of their peer group, reputationally. They all seem scared of taking the risk. I think you answered your own question on why they don’t take the leap to do it. If any of those guys (DiCaprio, Phoenix, or Bale) decided to do stage on Broadway or West End, it would be a very high profile risk/reward situation and maybe they view the risk as too much to their standing as actors if they disappoint or outright bomb on stage (ala Julianne Moore and Morgan Freeman). It’s why someone like Johnny Depp, who Brando told him he should do stage, and talked about doing stage in interviews in the past, never took the leap. Which made it cool that Jessica Chastain returned to Broadway again in 2023 for A Dolls House and received a Tony nomination after things didn’t work out for her before with The Heiress.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 20, 2024 17:33:54 GMT
Actors don't have the need to go to the stage and some of it isn't risk aversion - it's just career management: Brando (before stardom, 0 after), Hoffman (twice after stardom), Hackman (once after stardom I think?), De Niro (once after stardom) Day-Lewis (0 times after '89) are all arguably on that GOAT list along with Nicholson (0 times in any significant way) .....so they look at that and say "Nah, goshthanksbutno" - they all copy Jack in that way.......and in his movie selection too..... On the other the actors after DiCaprio do it more - Gyllenhaal, Driver, Mescal etc De Niro in his 1 stab at it - Cuba and His Teddy Bear - 1986 which was the height of DePac's stupid "GOAT competition" years
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 20, 2024 18:00:51 GMT
Stage PedigreePedigree is important. It doesn't matter if you barely return to stage after you've made it as a big movie star, if at least you have the pedigree .Once you've made your mark on stage, it's forever. All your peers know that and recognise that. Brando didn't have the longest or most extensive stage career, but one Broadway run with A Streetcar Named Desire made him a stage legend, and meant he'd always carry that respect with him for the rest of his career. Brando was constantly being invited to perform on stage by legendary stage actors and directors because he made his mark in one performance (It's something I mention with Nicole Kidman as well, who doesn't have the most prolific stage career, but has two incredibly well recieved stage runs, that make her a legend of the theatre).. Hoffman had legendary stage runs with Death Of A Salesman and The Merchant Of Venice, and did a ton of off-broadway in the 1960's. Stage Pedigree. DeNiro was doing off-broadway in the 1970's. Pedigree. Hackman was on stage throughout the 1960's. Pedigree. Day-Lewis was part of the Royal Shakespeare company in the 1980's. He has 14 professional stage credits. That played a part in him being able to get his reputation. Pedigree.
Pedigree on stage can make a huge difference to reputation. Meryl Streep has barely done much stage since attaining major stardom. Most of her stage engagements took place in the 1970's. But most actors know her stage pedigree and that she did enough to be considered a major, Tony nominated stage actress before her movie stardom took off.
I think even on some level Martin Scorsese understands that. He specified "movies" when he called on DiCaprio one of the greatest actors. Do you think he's need to do that for Washington, Pacino or Brando? I don't. He could just say they were some of the greatest actors, full stop. Because stage pedigree
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 20, 2024 18:19:47 GMT
Actors don't have the need to go to the stage and some of it isn't risk aversion - it's just career management: Brando (before stardom, 0 after), Hoffman (twice after stardom), Hackman (once after stardom I think?), De Niro (once after stardom) Day-Lewis (0 times after '89) are all arguably on that GOAT list along with Nicholson (0 times in any significant way) .....so they look at that and say "Nah, goshthanksbutno" - they all copy Jack in that way.......and in his movie selection too..... On the other the actors after DiCaprio do it more - Gyllenhaal, Driver, Mescal etc De Niro in his 1 stab at it - Cuba and His Teddy Bear - 1986 which was the height of DePac's stupid "GOAT competition" years * One of the things that helps DiCaprio - and makes doing theater not a dealbreaker is social media and demographics - and this day of every dumbfuck or 2 - having an opinion on everything..... you do regularly see him listed as "THE GOAT" to members of a younger acting generation - like an insane amount - and yeah that never means anything "really" --------- but there are people who want to advocate for their favorite actors - and will cite things like this below regardless if their "favorites" have a good filmography, much success at comedy or a BAFTA nomination...... or not ......... Jacob Elordi:“He’s one of the best actors of all time,” Jimmy (Fallon) said of the Shutter Island star, to which Jacob agreed, adding, “He’s the GOAT (greatest of all time).”
www.mytalk1071.com/jacob-elordi-recalls-leonardo-dicaprio-telling-him-hes-a-euphoria-fan/
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 20, 2024 18:34:28 GMT
This is exactly my point. Elordi is another movie/screen actor who mostly skipped high level professional stage completely (he's done a handful of things in high school as far as I know) and got TV and movie opportunities mainly because he's incredibly good looking. These are typically the kind of actors that idolise DiCaprio and may well call him GOAT. Those actors feel they can become like DiCaprio because they don't have to do the long, lowly slog of profrssional theatre, and can get to the top in films by having a good acting coach and being really good looking. No one is saying DiCaprio isn't revered, particularly among the screen acting fraternity. But he does not carry that same level of juice/respect with the stage acting fraternity, which most of the greats do.
How many serious stage actors show that kind of reverence towards DiCaprio? Not a huge amount I'd wager. It's the same with Nicholson to an extent. The reputational difference is significant. Someone like Elordi being reverential to DiCaprio is not that impressive to me in the scheme of things.
I mean Brad Pitt is a highly respected, Oscar winning actor, but how much more would he be universally revered as an actor (by all fratenities) if he had a major stage career? A lot more, I'd say. Leo's is in a similar boat.
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Post by futuretrunks on Jan 20, 2024 19:51:47 GMT
I can't find the quote right now, but I remember in an interview for The Quick and the Dead Hackman was asked about DiCaprio and said something like initially he wasn't sure about him, he seemed not to know his lines, was goofing off, etc. but that when they called action he was blown away. Basically called Leo a genius.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 20, 2024 20:03:07 GMT
I can't find the quote right now, but I remember in an interview for The Quick and the Dead Hackman was asked about DiCaprio and said something like initially he wasn't sure about him, he seemed not to know his lines, was goofing off, etc. but that when they called action he was blown away. Basically called Leo a genius. I think Streep called him a little genius once............let me make this clear - ALL that shit is meaningless to your opinion: Jared Leto likes Washington as the GOAT.......Zac Efron apparently really likes DDL...........Bardem literally calls Pacino "God" ffs ..............Elordi likes DiCap as the GOAT .......if you look long enough you'll find anything you want to prove a point - it's bullshit really..... Now, sure Bardem is by far the best Actor of those 4 dudes ^ - but does that make Pacino "the best"? Well yes, yes it does obviously........pfffft .......although:......... DiCaprio is the only one that actually MEANS GOAT it seems in Italian ..........so Elordi wins or something ? ......
"The surname Caprio is a name for goat, having derived its origin from the Italian word capra."
www.houseofnames.com/caprio-family-crest
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 20, 2024 21:26:03 GMT
Well, I know DiCaprio is very respected and admired by very many screen actors, I certainly don't hear many of them call him the GOAT. This Elordi quote is the first time I've actually seen another actor call him that. I wouldn't really say it's commonplace for him to be called that by fellow thesps, wheras you can literally find quotes from dozens of actors calling DDL or Washington or Brando the GOAT or something equivalent. It's not the same level of unquestionable reverence among peers. But he's also much younger than them, so there's that
Which isn't to say Leo won't get that kind of talk consistently from fellow actors 10 or 15 years from now. But I think he's not quite in that bracket for many actors yet. Whether it's his lack of a stage pedigree, or having the public image as a guy who hasn't quite grown up because he refuses to date a woman under 25, something holds him back for many from that status. Again, he's more in the realm of Brad Pitt (but maybe a bit more respected). I still think he's in a generational battle with Bale and Phoenix and none of them, for me are nailed on GOAT contenders yet. But they they all have potential in their generation to be mainstays in those conversations. But they'd be the first generation of GOAT contenders with no one with any stage pedigree, which is kind of sad. And it's a limiting factor for all of them. It'd really help seperate them if at least one of them took plunge and did stage.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 20, 2024 21:46:01 GMT
Stage Pedigree
Pedigree is important. It doesn't matter if you barely return to stage after you've made it as a big movie star, if at least you have the pedigree .Once you've made your mark on stage, it's forever.
DeNiro was doing off-broadway in the 1970's. Pedigree. * Can you provide a list of productions that De Niro actually gave for the public Off-Broadway in the 70s (or 60s)? ^ Afaik he had no stage footprint at all until Cuba and His Teddy Bear in 1986 - before stopping - he was one and done afaik .......he did theater reads, rehearsals and workshops but no actual commercial stage work that I know of in the 70s - or even after his earliest De Palma fims .....maybe not even prior to that afaik - I may be wrong but would appreciate knowing, thanx De Niro is not known for acting on stage. De Niro has made only one appearance on Broadway in 1986 in the play Cuba & The Teddy Bear and has not done any other stage work. As to why De Niro sticks to feature films. “I prefer movies to theatre. I suppose I’d do a play if I could find a really great new modern one. But I love movies. You can do so much more with film and you can create an illusion. Films last, they are there forever, like a little piece of history.”
www.projectcasting.com/blog/tips-and-advice/robert-de-niro/
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Post by futuretrunks on Jan 20, 2024 22:08:54 GMT
Well, I know DiCaprio is very respected and admired by very many screen actors, I certainly don't hear many of them call him the GOAT. This Elordi quote is the first time I've actually seen another actor call him that. I wouldn't really say it's commonplace for him to be called that by fellow thesps, wheras you can literally find quotes from dozens of actors calling DDL or Washington or Brando the GOAT or something equivalent. It's not the same level of unquestionable reverence among peers. But he's also much younger than them, so there's that Which isn't to say Leo won't get that kind of talk consistently from fellow actors 10 or 15 years from now. But I think he's not quite in that bracket for many actors yet. Whether it's his lack of a stage pedigree, or having the public image as a guy who hasn't quite grown up because he refuses to date a woman under 25, something holds him back for many from that status. Again, he's more in the realm of Brad Pitt (but maybe a bit more respected). I still think he's in a generational battle with Bale and Phoenix and none of them, for me are nailed on GOAT contenders yet. But they they all have potential in their generation to be mainstays in those conversations. But they'd be the first generation of GOAT contenders with no one with any stage pedigree, which is kind of sad. And it's a limiting factor for all of them. It'd really help seperate them if at least one of them took plunge and did stage. I don't really understand how doing theater well enhances the impression of someone as a screen actor. My impression of Jake Gyllenhaal, who I think has always been a very good actor, hasn't changed because of his success on stage. It just feels like a separate thing. I'm not like "Well, Gosling hasn't done theater, so I'll give the edge to Gyllenhaal even though I'm more impressed by Gosling's film work, despite thinking both excellent actors."
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 20, 2024 22:18:21 GMT
Robert DeNiro made his off-broadway debut in God Wants What Men Want. He starred in One Night Stands Of A Noisy Passenger at the Actors Playhouse in 1970. He was in an play called Glamour, Glory And Gold ( where Sally Kirkland first "discovered" him). At the Theatre Company Of Boston he appeared in Captain Smight And His Glory and Harold Pinter's The Basement. DeNiro toured in the plays The Boor, Generation and Tchin-Tchin . DeNiro did Billy Bailey and The Great American Refrigerator at the American Place Theatre in 1972.
Surprised you weren't aware of DeNiro's stage record. He was a jobbing and touring professional stage actor for a lot of the 60's and early 70's.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 20, 2024 22:21:41 GMT
Stage Pedigree
Pedigree is important. It doesn't matter if you barely return to stage after you've made it as a big movie star, if at least you have the pedigree .Once you've made your mark on stage, it's forever.
DeNiro was doing off-broadway in the 1970's. Pedigree. * Can you provide a list of productions that De Niro actually gave for the public Off-Broadway in the 70s (or 60s)? ^ Afaik he had no stage footprint at all until Cuba and His Teddy Bear in 1986 - before stopping - he was one and done afaik .......he did theater reads, rehearsals and workshops but no actual commercial stage work that I know of in the 70s - or even after his earliest De Palma fims .....maybe not even prior to that afaik - I may be wrong but would appreciate knowing, thanx De Niro is not known for acting on stage. De Niro has made only one appearance on Broadway in 1986 in the play Cuba & The Teddy Bear and has not done any other stage work. As to why De Niro sticks to feature films. “I prefer movies to theatre. I suppose I’d do a play if I could find a really great new modern one. But I love movies. You can do so much more with film and you can create an illusion. Films last, they are there forever, like a little piece of history.”
www.projectcasting.com/blog/tips-and-advice/robert-de-niro/
Project Casting: You might as well get your information from Wikipedia . DeNiro may not like stage, but he did a fuck ton of it as a young actor. A lot of sites haven't done their research and just run with the false narrative that DeNiro barely did any stage at all.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 20, 2024 22:31:08 GMT
Well, I know DiCaprio is very respected and admired by very many screen actors, I certainly don't hear many of them call him the GOAT. This Elordi quote is the first time I've actually seen another actor call him that. I wouldn't really say it's commonplace for him to be called that by fellow thesps, wheras you can literally find quotes from dozens of actors calling DDL or Washington or Brando the GOAT or something equivalent. It's not the same level of unquestionable reverence among peers. But he's also much younger than them, so there's that Which isn't to say Leo won't get that kind of talk consistently from fellow actors 10 or 15 years from now. But I think he's not quite in that bracket for many actors yet. Whether it's his lack of a stage pedigree, or having the public image as a guy who hasn't quite grown up because he refuses to date a woman under 25, something holds him back for many from that status. Again, he's more in the realm of Brad Pitt (but maybe a bit more respected). I still think he's in a generational battle with Bale and Phoenix and none of them, for me are nailed on GOAT contenders yet. But they they all have potential in their generation to be mainstays in those conversations. But they'd be the first generation of GOAT contenders with no one with any stage pedigree, which is kind of sad. And it's a limiting factor for all of them. It'd really help seperate them if at least one of them took plunge and did stage. I don't really understand how doing theater well enhances the impression of someone as a screen actor. My impression of Jake Gyllenhaal, who I think has always been a very good actor, hasn't changed because of his success on stage. It just feels like a separate thing. I'm not like "Well, Gosling hasn't done theater, so I'll give the edge to Gyllenhaal even though I'm more impressed by Gosling's film work, despite thinking both excellent actors." Stage can transform reputations completely. Austin Butler went from a Disney channel kid who no one took seriously, to a guy with the film world at his feet because he did one Broadway play in The Iceman Cometh. All his screen opportunities since sprung from that play. Nicole Kidman said that she clearly saw her reputation rise within the industry after she did the play The Blue Room in the West End. Off the back of the play, she got offered Moulin Rouge and The Hours and went on a legendary career run. Gyllenhaal and Gosling are not GOAT contenders. And they may never be. At the highest level, I think stage pedigree makes a difference when actors get assessed. That's why like I said, I don't think it's a coincidence that almost all the seriously acknowledged GOAT contenders (bar Nicholson) have a significant stage pedigree. But that is just my view.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 20, 2024 22:46:40 GMT
Robert DeNiro made his off-broadway debut in God Wants What Men Want. He starred in One Night Stands Of A Noisy Passenger at the Actors Playhouse in 1970. He was in an play called Glamour, Glory And Gold ( where Sally Kirkland first "discovered" him) . At the Theatre Company Of Boston he appeared in Captain Smight And His Glory and Harold Pinter's The Basement. DeNiro toured in the plays The Boor, Generation and Tchin-Tchin . DeNiro did Billy Bailey and The Great American Refrigerator at the American Place Theatre in 1972. Surprised you weren't aware of DeNiro's stage record. He was a jobbing and touring professional stage actor for a lot of the 60's and early 70's. Ok, thanks - actually I have a book about avant-garde theater in the 60s that has some these things in it and just needed by memory jogged
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Post by Archie on Jan 20, 2024 22:47:51 GMT
That was surprisingly wholesome.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 20, 2024 22:48:12 GMT
Well, I know DiCaprio is very respected and admired by very many screen actors, I certainly don't hear many of them call him the GOAT. I don't really understand how doing theater well enhances the impression of someone as a screen actor. My impression of Jake Gyllenhaal, who I think has always been a very good actor, hasn't changed because of his success on stage. It just feels like a separate thing. I'm not like "Well, Gosling hasn't done theater, so I'll give the edge to Gyllenhaal even though I'm more impressed by Gosling's film work, despite thinking both excellent actors." It's basically a Pacino thing -before him the great film stars didn't have Tony's much - Fonda, Brando, Scott, Lemmon, Newman, Douglas, Clift. Holden, Bogart, Stewart - NONE of those guys :
But Pacino had 2 Tony Awards when all his rivals had 0 Tony's - though all 3 (Nicholson, Hoffman, De Niro) had 2 Oscars - so to argue for Pacino you HAD to say that he did theater and say " he SHOULD have an Oscar" .......it was only in the 80s and later that Americans who won Oscars ALSO won a Tony - Kline, Spacey, later Washington........it's like this below that's the facts - and these guys dabbled - JUST dabbled - in plays after they became movie stars and these are some of the GOATs: You don't "need" it imo - it's nice to have it........when you argue an actor against an actor that has it - it's better to actually say "X is a better FILM actor than Y" and not just blow off the stage work .......... Brando (before stardom, but 0 after), Hoffman (only twice after stardom), Hackman (once after stardom I think?), De Niro (once after stardom) Day-Lewis (0 times after '89), Nicholson - none
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Post by mhynson27 on Jan 20, 2024 23:26:42 GMT
That was surprisingly wholesome. I was gonna say. What weird universe have I slipped into?!
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jan 21, 2024 1:50:11 GMT
. Nicholson is the only great from the older generations with little to no stage pedigree, and I feel it's held back his reputation a little bit, despite being the most Oscar Nominated male actor ever. He's often seen as being less accomplished/gifted than Pacino, DeNiro, Brando and more of a charisma monster. I don't think Nicholson has the same respect level with stage actors, as he does with those who mainly do screen.I don’t think he gives a shit. Nor should he. Stage actor’s opinions are meaning to a movie star. And to the general audience as well.
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