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Post by thelistenercanon on Apr 6, 2017 15:37:56 GMT
I apologize for making overrated thread, but I'm curious.
My picks:
Wes Anderson- Never cared for his style of filming, writing, etc. I honestly find it bland and uninteresting. Tim Burton- Mostly for his later years. Brian De Palma- Never cared for Scarface, Carrie, and I think his Hitchcock style isn't interesting to me. I don't want another Hitchcock.
I would also add Nolan and Fincher, but they get hate here plus I do have them in my top 100 just not top 20 or even 50 like a fair amount do, so that makes a somewhat overrated to me.
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Post by stephen on Apr 6, 2017 15:50:10 GMT
Stanley Kubrick. The guy was an extraordinary technical talent, one of the very best there has ever been, but he lost the human element over the years and, personally, I feel that he devolved as a storyteller in lieu of pushing the technical envelope. And yet the guy is touted as an unimpeachable god among cinephiles. I would also add that I feel David Fincher is going down the exact same rabbit hole.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 15:52:33 GMT
I second Wes Anderson (but I did enjoy Moonrise Kingdom quite a bit)
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Post by harlequinade on Apr 6, 2017 16:05:38 GMT
Malick
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Apr 6, 2017 16:28:16 GMT
Ron Howard - in general Gus Van Sant - by cinephiles
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Post by Kings_Requiem on Apr 6, 2017 16:28:52 GMT
Jim Jarmusch
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Apr 6, 2017 16:58:54 GMT
I'm not much of a fan of the term "overrated," but the two most acclaimed directors that don't do much for me are probably Terrence Malick and Woody Allen. With Malick, there's obviously a lot of talent there and he brings enough intrigue that I'm willing to watch his films even though I haven't liked any since Badlands and even that one I only moderately like. I feel like eventually there'll be a film he makes where I am where he's at and that it will all just work for me, but it just hasn't happened yet. With Allen, I just don't find him that interesting. He gets good work out of his actors, but it's for characters that ultimately strike me as really shallow, often relentlessly neurotic, and sort of tough to care about considering how well off they are while always going, "woe is me." In terms of directorial skill, Allen strikes me as being mostly just competent with only Manhattan and The Purple Rose of Cairo being the ones I'd say are particularly well-directed and those are probably the main two from him that I like.
Godard is one that I wouldn't say I entirely dislike, but there is a chasm between my appreciation of him and his respect among cinephiles. He's emblematic of everything I like and dislike about postmodernism. Often, I find Godard more interesting to talk about than watch but at least he's only rarely less than interesting (fuck Film Socialisme). I do respect his contribution to cinema with respect to technique and stylistic elements; however, I think often those techniques have been put to better use by other filmmakers. For me, he's the wind at the door, hitting it with enough force so someone else can break it down.
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Post by moonman157 on Apr 6, 2017 17:02:33 GMT
Brian De Palma- Never cared for Scarface, Carrie, and I think his Hitchcock style isn't interesting to me. I don't want another Hitchcock. What other De Palma movies have you seen? Scarface is one of his worst.
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Post by thelistenercanon on Apr 6, 2017 17:22:29 GMT
Brian De Palma- Never cared for Scarface, Carrie, and I think his Hitchcock style isn't interesting to me. I don't want another Hitchcock. What other De Palma movies have you seen? Scarface is one of his worst. Well, there's also Mission: Impossible but that was good but last two sequels were way better. Sisters was okay. I'm sure there's more but I can't think of anything other than 4.
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Post by moonman157 on Apr 6, 2017 17:39:08 GMT
What other De Palma movies have you seen? Scarface is one of his worst. Well, there's also Mission: Impossible but that was good but last two sequels were way better. Sisters was okay. I'm sure there's more but I can't think of anything other than 4. Doesn't sound like you've dug past the mainstream stuff he made which I would consider among his weakest films. Though I think Sisters and Carrie are both great so perhaps De Palma is just not the man for you. Before you move past him though I'd recommend you check out some other stuff in the future if you have the inclination. Phantom of the Paradise, Dressed to Kill, Blow Out, and Carlito's Way are all pretty amazing imo.
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Post by harlequinade on Apr 6, 2017 17:53:00 GMT
Well, there's also Mission: Impossible but that was good but last two sequels were way better. Sisters was okay. I'm sure there's more but I can't think of anything other than 4. Doesn't sound like you've dug past the mainstream stuff he made which I would consider among his weakest films. Though I think Sisters and Carrie are both great so perhaps De Palma is just not the man for you. Before you move past him though I'd recommend you check out some other stuff in the future if you have the inclination. Phantom of the Paradise, Dressed to Kill, Blow Out, and Carlito's Way are all pretty amazing imo. Carlito's Way is incredible!
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Post by moonman157 on Apr 6, 2017 17:56:29 GMT
Doesn't sound like you've dug past the mainstream stuff he made which I would consider among his weakest films. Though I think Sisters and Carrie are both great so perhaps De Palma is just not the man for you. Before you move past him though I'd recommend you check out some other stuff in the future if you have the inclination. Phantom of the Paradise, Dressed to Kill, Blow Out, and Carlito's Way are all pretty amazing imo. Carlito's Way is incredible! One of his best for sure. I really love De Palma in general. I would have named even more movies by him but I think those are all pretty good entry points.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Apr 6, 2017 18:25:26 GMT
Agreed on the Malick mentions. I do love a lot of stuff from the Coen brothers, but they are not always the cinema deities they are sometimes treated as. Fincher is slipping too, but he was always overrated to a certain degree anyway.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Apr 6, 2017 18:27:26 GMT
Kubrick, Malick, and Tarantino come to mind.
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Post by Kirk-Picard on Apr 6, 2017 18:56:50 GMT
Malick
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Post by stephen on Apr 6, 2017 19:41:27 GMT
Oh yeah, Godard as well.
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Post by getclutch on Apr 6, 2017 20:02:23 GMT
Tarantino Allen
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Post by Film Socialism on Apr 6, 2017 20:20:37 GMT
truffaut hawks (particularly) bunuel weerasethekul (michael) mann spielberg scorsese mizoguchi allen (satyajit) ray
these range from "i've seen a couple films and didn't really vibe with them at all" to "literally how can people stand this guy"
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Post by Film Socialism on Apr 6, 2017 20:21:39 GMT
And I don't think that many people hate Fincher here, they might hate Fight Club, but incessantly drink the Se7en coolaid. Think Zodiac is an untouchable, and think The Social Network is a legitimate canon contender. i've been hating on fincher for years, would say FC is stronger than any of those films
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Apr 6, 2017 20:26:15 GMT
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Post by taranofprydain on Apr 6, 2017 20:29:45 GMT
Inarritu. I liked Birdman a lot, had mixed feelings on Babel, disliked The Revenant.
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Post by bruinjoe96 on Apr 6, 2017 20:38:51 GMT
Christopher Nolan Terrence Malick
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Post by Film Socialism on Apr 6, 2017 20:42:56 GMT
they're in the category of "seen a few from each and they're cool" for me. i like both of them (i like most of the directors i posted really), but calling them greats is way hyperbolic to me.
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Post by Film Socialism on Apr 6, 2017 20:50:44 GMT
truffaut hawks (particularly) bunuel weerasethekul (michael) mann spielberg scorsese mizoguchi allen (satyajit) ray these range from "i've seen a couple films and didn't really vibe with them at all" to "literally how can people stand this guy" The only one I can agree with is Allen, even though his late 70s canon might pwn Bergman and Kubrick at their best. Without the late 70s, he's an absolute hack though. Oh right, highest Spielberg movie I gave is (8.5/10), but he has loads of those I can't consider him overrated. Hawks? He could get a bit samesy-samesy, but those screwball comedies give him some character, and Rio Bravo is miles better than anything Ford has ever done. Mann, Scorsese, Ray, Bunuel, and Mizoguchi.... those are some of the best. Sorry man, you're finding yourself pretty hard to agree with but I respect your opinion because you're a cool guy. allen i've seen like 3 or 4 from and they're okay and kinda fun but they're so damn similar and there's just not much there and i know it's hip to hate on the characters in his films but he does make it p easy. the technical stuff is typically proficient and nothing more, and that's how i feel about the other elements. he's good in that his films i've seen don't really have many missteps per se but there's just nothing i can really attach to heavily. i like spielberg a biit more now than i once did since i've reconsidered A.I. and War of the Worlds so much, but i definitely can't see the case for many of his other works - despite how often people give me great insights into their thoughts. he's not for me but he's for plenty others so it's cool. hawks is crazy inconsistent to me; i love all three westerns i've seen of his (though prefer Red River) and His Girl Friday is a masterpiece, but a lot of his stuff just does nothing for me at all. the surprising thing is that it's different elements in each film - the smugness of The Big Sleep, the OTT idiocy of Bringing Up Baby, the poor pacing of The Thing from Another World, etc. i don't understand how he can do such great work and such uninspired work and yet still have been called a true auteur director circa 1960. i do like mizoguchi a pretty good deal, scorsese and mann are fine (scorsese has some pretty high peaks and mann is consistent so far for me), i've seen 2 rays and they're just 100% boring, and i think i hate bunuel (and i've seen like 9 of his films). and of course same to you; we all have our quirks.
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Post by Joaquim on Apr 6, 2017 23:26:16 GMT
Christopher Nolan Terrence Malick
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