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Post by Good God on Jan 7, 2020 9:27:01 GMT
Oscars haven't had a "race" problem since the turn of the century. That's BS invented by virtue-signalers that weren't the sharpest tools in the shed and believed by the gullible. I actually did the numbers for this back in 2015, and I can post them again. In the 21st century, up to 2016 (which was when I did this analysis), more Black Americans were winning Oscars than White Americans in proportion to their population. I did this for blacks and whites in general, and also Black Americans and White Americans, and the results suggested the same. Fortunately, I have the numbers saved:
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 7, 2020 10:04:50 GMT
Meh, the Washington BAFTA issue actually covers up other problems Washington has:
Only 2 BP Oscar nods in Washington's entire career when every other US GOAT contender has more than that....0 GG/Oscar nominated comic roles or films or blockbuster hit comedies when every one - EVERY ONE - of the other US GOAT contenders have this at least once if not multiple times.
Do we consider those things to be racism too or is that just a weak sauce filmography of pretty limited acting work (for now at least, that could change) worthy of praise in many ways but not a serious GOAT resume like he always says?
Find me a comparable white actor with 0 BAFTA nods, 0 comic triumphs, that weak a filmography and he would never be talked about as the GOAT, so race actually helps Washington's argument a lot of times too. Sure didn't hurt being the default black actor to pad his Oscar nomination numbers for did it?
Just sayin', that "racism" argument is best to avoid....
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 7, 2020 10:13:12 GMT
This is not about fucking Denzel Washington. I know you guys don't need any excuse to turn any thread into a Denzel distraction thread when I'm about(as we all saw on The Irishman thread), but #BAFTAsowhite is a trending hashtag on twitter today, and funnily enough, barely anyone has mentioned Washington. He's not the issue this year
This is a much bigger issue of systematic, institutional racism in that body. Lamely trying to turn the into the One millionth Denzel thread, is about par for the course.
It's tired and lame. Stop it.
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Post by Good God on Jan 7, 2020 10:15:57 GMT
This is not about fucking Denzel Washington. I know you guys don't need any excuse to turn any thread into a Denzel thread when I'm about(as we all saw on The Irishman thread), but # BAFTAsowhite is a trending hashtag on twitter today, and funnily enough, barely anyone has mentioned Washington. This is a much bigger issue of systematic, institutional racism in that body. Lamely trying to turn the into the One millionth Denzel thread, is about par for the course. It's tired and lame. Stop it. LOL, you're not fooling anyone. It's clear what you're trying to do to anyone with half a brain. And appealing to nitwits on Twitter like you always do isn't going to change that.
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Post by Kirk-Picard on Jan 7, 2020 10:18:34 GMT
# BAFTAsowhite is a trending hashtag on twitter today
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 7, 2020 10:19:11 GMT
This is not about fucking Denzel Washington. I know you guys don't need any excuse to turn any thread into a Denzel thread when I'm about(as we all saw on The Irishman thread), but # BAFTAsowhite is a trending hashtag on twitter today, and funnily enough, barely anyone has mentioned Washington. This is a much bigger issue of systematic, institutional racism in that body. Lamely trying to turn the into the One millionth Denzel thread, is about par for the course. It's tired and lame. Stop it. LOL, you're not fooling anyone. It's clear what you're trying to do to anyone with half a brain. And appealing to nitwits on Twitter like you always do isn't going to change that. You are literally the worst one. Didn't you try to make the Clift/Douglas thread about Denzel as well . I do like it when the Stormfront in you jumps out though
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Post by wilcinema on Jan 7, 2020 10:23:43 GMT
BAFTA being BAFTA. They can go fuck themselves.
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Post by Good God on Jan 7, 2020 10:23:44 GMT
You are literally the worst one. Didn't you try to make the Clift/Douglas thread about Denzel as well . I do like it when the Stormfront in you jumps out though No, I made it about the bloody hypocrite that you are and how you pick and choose and shift goalposts as they suit you. SeanJoyce hates my guts, and even he was agreeing with me calling you out on your hypocritical BS. It's hilarious that I'm supposed to be a White Supremacist now, when I'm not even white. But when I own your ass this thoroughly, I guess that's your only resort
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 7, 2020 10:27:16 GMT
Cool story bro.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 7, 2020 10:29:50 GMT
# BAFTAsowhite is a trending hashtag on twitter today Was trending eariler. Different spelling
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Post by TerryMontana on Jan 7, 2020 10:32:44 GMT
I honestly don't see the reason to bring Denzel to the cinversation and I honestly don't see the reason to make such a thing about white BAFTA and I honestly don't give a shit about twitter reactions on the matter. Or any matter at all...
In other news, De Niro's very few chances of getting an Oscar nod are now complete zero. On the other hand, I guess Ronan and even JLo will be in.
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Jan 7, 2020 11:13:23 GMT
Pretty big for Once Upon a Time since Tarantino hasn’t had a BP nominee here since Pulp Fiction.
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Post by ingmarhepburn on Jan 7, 2020 11:19:26 GMT
All very predictable, except for Buckley getting in and Lopez missing. Best Director seems to have 4 locks. Philips and Baumbach will be fighting for the 5th spot at the Oscars.
Banderas is on very shaky grounds right now. I was confident he was going to make it here, considering how much BAFTA loves Almodóvar. Egerton seems to be confirmed for the 4th spot, and the 5th might be Pryce's to lose, given the boost that The Two Popes got today.
I think that, in the end, the Oscar lineups won't differ much from these. N'yongo or Erivo will probably replace Buckley and Lopes is taking Robbie's spot for OUATIH, but the rest seems our final Oscar lineup for acting.
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Post by Cast Asunder on Jan 7, 2020 11:22:02 GMT
Also worth noting ... Banderas, Lopez, Nyong’o, Erivo, Awkwainfa all snubbed here, so it’s all white acting nominees ... Banderas is white.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jan 7, 2020 12:17:20 GMT
That De Niro snub... Typical 😑
Robbie for OUATIH? 😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑
So thrilled about the Jessie Buckley and Florence Pugh's noms, though.
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Jan 7, 2020 12:29:54 GMT
This is a much bigger issue of systematic, institutional racism in that body. What are you babbling on about? Do you ever think that maybe there weren't any non-white performances that they really liked?
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Jan 7, 2020 12:36:15 GMT
BAFTA being BAFTA. They can go fuck themselves. Stop pretending that you're offended and I have no idea what Bafta being Bafta means.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 7, 2020 12:40:51 GMT
This is a much bigger issue of systematic, institutional racism in that body What are you babbling on about? Do you ever think that maybe there weren't any non-white performances that they really liked? I'm babbling about by far the biggest fucking story to come out of this year's BAFTA nominations There's not one trade magazine/site that's not talking about this, and it's being covered by numerous mainstream media outlets that have nothing to do with the film industry. It's a major shitstorm and even the BAFTA leaders have had to release a press statement saying they have diversity issues and it's kinda fucked up. But by all means, let's act like it's much ado about nothing and nobody is talking about this. It'a a touchy, uncomfortable subject matter for some, but it is what it is. And it isn't going anywhere.
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Jan 7, 2020 12:44:45 GMT
What are you babbling on about? Do you ever think that maybe there weren't any non-white performances that they really liked? I'm babbling about by far the biggest fucking story to come out of this year's BAFTA nominations There's not one trade magazine/site that's not talking about this, and it's being covered by numerous mainstream media outlets that have nothing to do with the film industry. It's a major shitstorm and even the BAFTA leaders have had to release a press statement saying they have diversity issues and it's kinda fucked up. But by all means, let's act like it's much ado about nothing and nobody is talking about this. It'a a touchy, uncomfortable subject matter for some, but it is what it is. And it isn't going anywhere. Where did I say nobody was talking about it? You said it was systemic with no proof whatsoever you gobshite.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 7, 2020 12:50:22 GMT
I'm babbling about by far the biggest fucking story to come out of this year's BAFTA nominations There's not one trade magazine/site that's not talking about this, and it's being covered by numerous mainstream media outlets that have nothing to do with the film industry. It's a major shitstorm and even the BAFTA leaders have had to release a press statement saying they have diversity issues and it's kinda fucked up. But by all means, let's act like it's much ado about nothing and nobody is talking about this. It'a a touchy, uncomfortable subject matter for some, but it is what it is. And it isn't going anywhere. Where did I say nobody was talking about it? You said it was systemic with no proof whatsoever you gobshite. BAFTA themselves have attempted to introduce diversity initiatives (which cleary haven't worked) to improve representation. You are defending an organisation that's fully aware it has systemic issues, but are at a loss of how to solve it. Anyway, as charming as this conversation appears to be, you are coming at it from a hostlie angle, which never ends well. So, have a nice day.
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Post by TerryMontana on Jan 7, 2020 12:54:31 GMT
The BAFTAs seemed the perfect way for the Two Popes to get back on the Oscar race and if that will be the case, then I'm happy. (A nod for sir Hopkins please!!)
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jan 7, 2020 12:55:55 GMT
People really need to stop pointing to how “film twitter”!is reacting to stuff. “Film Twitter” is a tiny little bubble that is quite meaningless.
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Post by IceTruckDexter on Jan 7, 2020 12:57:35 GMT
Where did I say nobody was talking about it? You said it was systemic with no proof whatsoever you gobshite. BAFTA themselves have attempted to introduce diversity initiatives (which cleary haven't worked) to improve representation. You are defending an organisation that's fully aware it has systemic issues, but are at a loss of how to solve it. Anyway, as charming as this conversation appears to be, you are coming at it from a hostlie angle, which never ends well. So, have a nice day. No they attempted to play nice for the cameras because of the OSCARSSOWHITE bollocks. They're opinion awards based on performance. If they don't see like performances enough why should they vote for them yet you think it's racism if they don't.
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 7, 2020 12:58:25 GMT
People really need to stop pointing to how “film twitter”!is reacting to stuff. “Film Twitter” is a tiny little bubble that is quite meaningless. It's gone from "Film Twitter" outrage, to the trades and mainstream media in a pretty big hurry, so while I get the point you are trying to make, this isn't neccesarily one of the best examples. This is way bigger than Film Twitter...they were just the first to react.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 7, 2020 13:00:29 GMT
I'm babbling about by far the biggest fucking story to come out of this year's BAFTA nominations There's not one trade magazine/site that's not talking about this, and it's being covered by numerous mainstream media outlets that have nothing to do with the film industry. It's a major shitstorm and even the BAFTA leaders have had to release a press statement saying they have diversity issues and it's kinda fucked up. But by all means, let's act like it's much ado about nothing and nobody is talking about this. It'a a touchy, uncomfortable subject matter for some, but it is what it is. And it isn't going anywhere. Where did I say nobody was talking about it? You said it was systemic with no proof whatsoever you gobshite. BAFTA may have an issue in previous years, maybe not, but this lineup, this year is somehow "proof" of this issue again? No, it is not ..........by definition it is not.............and when people conflate their opinion and pass it off as fact they are always on shaky ground.
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