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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 22, 2018 9:35:43 GMT
I love both films but prefer Cache far more which I had in my top 10 for its decade to Roma which is still tops of its year imo. They are good films to compare though because while they are opposite in feel (Cache is cold, clinical, precise; Roma is warm, more feeling, more overtly emotional) - in filmmaking style they are similar - they each have a specific directorial style or device that dovetails and is integrated with their narrative themes.
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Post by MsMovieStar on Dec 22, 2018 10:02:25 GMT
Oh honey, I'm here to bitch about the odd comparison... For a start Cache has five letters while Roma only has four; Cuaron will have Fish Tacos with Frijoles for lunch while Haneke will have Wiener Schnitzel with Erdäpfelsalat; one likes to wear Boxer briefs and let it all hang out, while the other likes bikini briefs that are two sizes too small... Do I need to go on? I think you can see how idiotic this is...
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Post by JangoB on Dec 22, 2018 11:20:51 GMT
Haneke. And Fellini's "Roma" is better than both.
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Post by themoviesinner on Dec 22, 2018 11:54:37 GMT
Cache is among the best films of the previous decade. Roma is one of the worst films I've seen this year.
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Post by jimmalone on Dec 22, 2018 12:28:33 GMT
It's a comparison that doesn't make much sense to me except that both is about families in difficult situations. But anyways: Roma.
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 22, 2018 13:03:10 GMT
Just to give ray a little break - the films are worth comparing for a few ways for me - families in trouble/crisis like jimmalone mentions, political POV - the Corpus Christi massacre vs. the Paris massacre, the shifting nature of memory and things you can't forget and how the camera captures them (explicit in Cache) and the mind restructures them - how things can come floating back to you and overwhelm you too, how the physical setting affects the characters - ie in Cache he is pulled back to his youth, in Roma characters are always trying to to leave where they are (he's going to Canada, her boyfriend is going to train, they go to the beach, the car, the vehicle of transport is continually "damaged" or replaced), also the implications that future generations are the key to change or be more overtly sinister change actually (again more pronounced in Cache but that is still strongly implied in Roma for good and bad), and the shared artistic style is like I said the big one - ie the video conceit in Cache and the "scrapbook" style crucial to Roma are crucial to both. Both are memory devices here. In symbolic ways, as I talked about in my Roma review - many things are hidden, the dog behind the wall, the birds in their cage, the characters are in the dark of what happens around them for much of the time, the pregnancy, marital affairs, terroristic military events, the soldiers are in the street and visible but what's happening there is unclear to Cleo until she literally "sees" it, (it's not a coincidental plot point, it's a THEME point - wtf people who list that as a flaw ), the waves have a hidden danger too - water in that film here (in other ways at other times) - they are fun to play in but have a darker pull too .........Cache well that literally means "hidden" and I don't have to list all the things that represent the title in that great film. Also obviously in the less integral ways as films they are worth comparing a bit too - on a simple level - these are greatly acclaimed works by leading world filmmakers etc. I mean Cache is 2005 and Roma 2018 - I'm not sure we'd have that many in the US at least as acclaimed foreign films as those 2 (arguable but they are certainly up there) in the last 15 years.
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Post by Allenism on Dec 22, 2018 18:51:07 GMT
Cache is an objectively less flawed film but Roma is a hell of a lot more pleasant to watch.
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Post by TheAlwaysClassy on Dec 22, 2018 19:09:05 GMT
Cache is better in every way except the cinematography.
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Post by wattsnew on Dec 25, 2018 9:34:09 GMT
Roma is the greatest film of this decade and the 2nd best of the century, so that.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Jan 4, 2019 13:00:41 GMT
The majority of films I've seen come out on top in comparison to Cache, which I borderline hate, so this was an embarrassingly easy choice on favour of Roma.
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Post by futuretrunks on Jan 6, 2019 22:34:17 GMT
Roma is a snore
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