Post by Ryan_MYeah on Nov 6, 2018 23:01:08 GMT
I figured in making a master thread for the heated debates surrounding this particular performance. I think Lesley Manville is amazing in Another Year, and I’ll vote for her regardless of where she places, but as far as I’m concerned, she is unquestionably Supporting.
I honestly don’t think this would even be a talking point if not for the last 25 minutes. Up until that point, she is absolutely a supporting player, given how much screen time she spends on the sidelines. But we do have to take that final act into account, especially since it’s her most powerful material. But that it elevates her to Leading I just don’t see. I don’t even need to boil it down to her lack of screen time up until that point, and how everything is weighted very heavily towards Broadbent and Sheen.
Even if she dominates the entire final act of that film, I bring a comparison to mind: Ryan Gosling in The Place Beyond the Pines. Regardless of whatever side you were on back then, I think he has more claim to a Lead status. Up until his exit, he is in virtually every second of the film, driving the story forward and setting the chess pieces in motion, and everything after his exit is a direct result of *his* actions, and he was voted Supporting (justifiably I say), because even so, he isn’t really the - or a - lead. Manville is the same way to me. She’s phenomenal, but even though she has the final act mostly to herself, not everything that happens is directly set forward by her. I say it still weighted towards Broadbent and Sheen even if they aren’t onscreen, and the happiness they have that Mary can’t seem to find. It would be one thing if she had an argument that her shadow still lingers even when she’s not around, but that’s not really the case. I don’t think there’s even a “her time is evenly split” case like he Carol ladies. She was just the one supporting player who happened to get the most attention.
So this is basically my way of saying... if we consider Manville lead, we should consider Gosling lead, because they operate under the same principle.
Anyway, there’s my rant, have at it.
I honestly don’t think this would even be a talking point if not for the last 25 minutes. Up until that point, she is absolutely a supporting player, given how much screen time she spends on the sidelines. But we do have to take that final act into account, especially since it’s her most powerful material. But that it elevates her to Leading I just don’t see. I don’t even need to boil it down to her lack of screen time up until that point, and how everything is weighted very heavily towards Broadbent and Sheen.
Even if she dominates the entire final act of that film, I bring a comparison to mind: Ryan Gosling in The Place Beyond the Pines. Regardless of whatever side you were on back then, I think he has more claim to a Lead status. Up until his exit, he is in virtually every second of the film, driving the story forward and setting the chess pieces in motion, and everything after his exit is a direct result of *his* actions, and he was voted Supporting (justifiably I say), because even so, he isn’t really the - or a - lead. Manville is the same way to me. She’s phenomenal, but even though she has the final act mostly to herself, not everything that happens is directly set forward by her. I say it still weighted towards Broadbent and Sheen even if they aren’t onscreen, and the happiness they have that Mary can’t seem to find. It would be one thing if she had an argument that her shadow still lingers even when she’s not around, but that’s not really the case. I don’t think there’s even a “her time is evenly split” case like he Carol ladies. She was just the one supporting player who happened to get the most attention.
So this is basically my way of saying... if we consider Manville lead, we should consider Gosling lead, because they operate under the same principle.
Anyway, there’s my rant, have at it.