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Post by moonman157 on Oct 11, 2018 12:47:54 GMT
La La Land sucks shit
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Post by LaraQ on Oct 11, 2018 13:01:39 GMT
La La Land all day long.
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Post by stephen on Oct 11, 2018 13:59:01 GMT
La La Land for everything but soundtrack (although that one is really close).
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Post by mrimpossible on Oct 11, 2018 14:15:49 GMT
A Star is Born for everything. LLL just annoys me now.
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Post by JangoB on Oct 11, 2018 14:42:13 GMT
LLL for Movie and Soundtrack, ASIB for Performance (whatever the fuck that means).
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Oct 11, 2018 15:12:45 GMT
Does the soundtrack category include the score for La La Land?
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Oct 11, 2018 19:54:40 GMT
I like ASIB quite a bit, but I can't say that I truly love it like I do LLL. Chazelle's film may be fluffier with not as much emotional heft, but my first time watching it was such a joyous experience, and it's so clearly made by a guy who loves movies that it's kind of irresistible.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Oct 11, 2018 19:59:34 GMT
La La Land overall and for soundtrack, Star Is Born for performances
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Post by DeepArcher on Oct 11, 2018 20:17:04 GMT
Oh my god, La La Land is so, so much better, across the board. Say what you will about La La Land, it's a movie that I've soured on in the past two years and that obviously has a plethora of flaws on its own, but at least it's made with so much passion and is charming and entertaining and fun, all of which I struggle to say about A Star is Born.
Performance-wise, La La Land takes the cake pretty easily. Sure, obviously no one matches Gaga in terms of musical and vocal ability, but she's the only one of the quartet of actors (i.e., the two pairs of leads in these two films) whose career has been primarily based in music, so that just, you know, makes sense. And I guess Cooper's vocals are better than Gosling's, sure, but the thing is, Cooper's songs really aren't vocally taxing at all. I feel like Gosling would've sang them just as well. Not to mention, Gosling's piano-playing > Cooper's guitar-playing, for whatever that's worth. Anyway, when it comes to acting quality, it's Stone and Gosling BY FAR. Their chemistry together is a one-of-a-kind, so good that it's arguably the entire reason why La La Land works. Gaga and Cooper never come close to achieving that same magic. Not to mention I found Stone's and Gosling's individual performances more compelling and deep, overall, though if I had to rank them I guess I'd say: Stone > Cooper > Gosling > Gaga, though Cooper and Gosling are super close, and it's kinda hard to differentiate as they're such different roles. (On a bonus note, I really don't see what people find so special about Gaga's performance. She's fine, but...eh.)
And La La Land's soundtrack blows A Star is Born's out of the fucking water. When all is said and done, "Shallow" is really the only memorable song from A Star is Born, and it's not because it's a quality piece of songwriting so much as it is because of Gaga's phenomenal vocal performance. La La Land's batch of songs are much better written, not only more interesting lyrically but also far more catchy and memorable. Plus, La La Land has a beautiful, instant classic score, and A Star is Born has none (but that's an admittedly unfair field of comparison).
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Oct 11, 2018 20:39:46 GMT
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Post by Drish on Oct 11, 2018 20:45:42 GMT
Oh my god, La La Land is so, so much better, across the board. Say what you will about La La Land, it's a movie that I've soured on in the past two years and that obviously has a plethora of flaws on its own, but at least it's made with so much passion and is charming and entertaining and fun, all of which I struggle to say about A Star is Born. Performance-wise, La La Land takes the cake pretty easily. Sure, obviously no one matches Gaga in terms of musical and vocal ability, but she's the only one of the quartet of actors (i.e., the two pairs of leads in these two films) whose career has been primarily based in music, so that just, you know, makes sense. And I guess Cooper's vocals are better than Gosling's, sure, but the thing is, Cooper's songs really aren't vocally taxing at all. I feel like Gosling would've sang them just as well. Not to mention, Gosling's piano-playing > Cooper's guitar-playing, for whatever that's worth. Anyway, when it comes to acting quality, it's Stone and Gosling BY FAR. Their chemistry together is a one-of-a-kind, so good that it's arguably the entire reason why La La Land works. Gaga and Cooper never come close to achieving that same magic. Not to mention I found Stone's and Gosling's individual performances more compelling and deep, overall, though if I had to rank them I guess I'd say: Stone > Cooper > Gosling > Gaga, though Cooper and Gosling are super close, and it's kinda hard to differentiate as they're such different roles. (On a bonus note, I really don't see what people find so special about Gaga's performance. She's fine, but...eh.) And La La Land's soundtrack blows A Star is Born's out of the fucking water. When all is said and done, "Shallow" is really the only memorable song from A Star is Born, and it's not because it's a quality piece of songwriting so much as it is because of Gaga's phenomenal vocal performance. La La Land's batch of songs are much better written, not only more interesting lyrically but also far more catchy and memorable. Plus, La La Land has a beautiful, instant classic score, and A Star is Born has none (but that's an admittedly unfair field of comparison). Agree wholeheartedly ❤️ I struggle to see what people are seeing in ASIB. It's good but nowhere close to the kind of praise it's getting (for me). I'd be sad when Lady Gaga will win all the future 'Stone Vs Gaga' polls that we're gonna have  |
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Oct 11, 2018 21:22:24 GMT
La La Land
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Post by notacrook on Oct 11, 2018 22:11:25 GMT
Literally all of these are super close-calls.
Film: I've literally just got back from A Star is Born, and I have a slight feeling I might actually prefer it. But I definitely loved La La Land more after initial viewing, and still think it's a great film, so I wanna let my thoughts simmer on the former before giving it the edge. They both hover around the 9 mark for me, and interestingly I think they both follow a similar pattern - terrific first hour, then threatens to lose way in the mid-stretch thanks to an outsider getting in the way (John Legend or British guy, who's more annoying?), before bringing it all together with a sensational climax.
Performances: Both pairs of leads are absolutely fantastic. For ASIB, it's by far the best Cooper has ever been, while Gaga was genuinely terrific and utterly genuine in every moment. For LLL, Stone is an explosion of charisma and heart, while Gosling is irresistibly charming and suave. Ranking the 4 I'd say: Stone > Cooper > Gaga > Gosling. Sam Elliott pushes ASIB to the win.
Soundtrack: Again, it's tough. 'Shallow' is easily the best song in either film, a powerfully performed and wonderfully written piece. However, I think LLL has a more well-rounded collection of songs, not to mention a terrific score.
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Post by DeepArcher on Oct 12, 2018 0:59:42 GMT
(John Legend or British guy, who's more annoying?) To me there's literally no comparing the two. Rez is a caricature who literally cares about nothing other than money. And that's honestly not meant as a criticism of the writing. That just is the character's function in the plot. Kieth in La La Land, however, is a drastically misunderstood character. He's not annoying at all, especially compared to the likes of Sebastian's retrospective elitism. Keith is a smart character who seems to genuinely want what's best for Sebastian. He's not a "sellout" as so many people dismiss him as, he's someone who understands how to pioneer music and give it necessary updates. Plus it's also pretty clear that Kieth genuinely loves what he's doing and isn't just doing it for the money, which is really all that matters. I think the reason so many people misperceive the character is because Sebastian more or less ignores his advice and still gets what he wants in the end, which has always been one of my biggest problems with the movie... it basically tries to suggest that Kieth's ideas can be neglected, when he's arguably the most sensible person in the movie. |
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Post by cheesecake on Oct 12, 2018 12:06:16 GMT
Everything to La La Land save for soundtrack.
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Post by notacrook on Oct 12, 2018 17:19:00 GMT
(John Legend or British guy, who's more annoying?) To me there's literally no comparing the two. Rez is a caricature who literally cares about nothing other than money. And that's honestly not meant as a criticism of the writing. That just is the character's function in the plot. Kieth in La La Land, however, is a drastically misunderstood character. He's not annoying at all, especially compared to the likes of Sebastian's retrospective elitism. Keith is a smart character who seems to genuinely want what's best for Sebastian. He's not a "sellout" as so many people dismiss him as, he's someone who understands how to pioneer music and give it necessary updates. Plus it's also pretty clear that Kieth genuinely loves what he's doing and isn't just doing it for the money, which is really all that matters. I think the reason so many people misperceive the character is because Sebastian more or less ignores his advice and still gets what he wants in the end, which has always been one of my biggest problems with the movie... it basically tries to suggest that Kieth's ideas can be neglected, when he's arguably the most sensible person in the movie. You do make very valid points. Legend's character clearly had good intentions, and was astute in his advancement of jazz music and awareness of how people's tastes have changed. From the perspective of the romance between Mia and Sebastian's romance, he is an obvious hindrance which makes him seem like an irritant to me. Really though, I feel like I'm probably projecting my problems with LLL's midsection onto this character specifically. He's certainly less problematic than the ridiculously one-note British 'baddie' in ASIB. Interestingly, I've mainly heard strong defences of Legend's character from people who dislike Mia - the opinion being that Mia pulled Sebastian in the wrong direction whereas Legend had the right idea. |
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Post by Pavan on Oct 13, 2018 16:12:04 GMT
La La Land on all counts and it's not even close. I don't get why ASIB is leading in the performance category. Cooper wishes he can emote as good as Gosling in the below image. I know they're different characters and Cooper is in fact good but I'd put Gosling in LLL over Cooper in ASIB any day. Gaga is SURPRISINGLY good but Stone is best of the decade. So there's no comparison either.  |
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Post by wattsnew on Oct 14, 2018 8:48:58 GMT
Oh god. Imagine thinking Bradley Cooper (the 2nd best actor of this decade after Joaquin) can't emote. I just can't.
Anyway, ASIB is better than La La Land in every way. Especially soundtrack.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Oct 15, 2018 21:16:33 GMT
Well A Star Is Born isn't outright horrible, so I guess it wins out in that regard.
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Post by skyfallen on Oct 19, 2018 18:40:38 GMT
A Star is Born wipes the floor with La La Land.
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