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Post by wallsofjericho on Aug 14, 2018 7:25:38 GMT
Which of his last two performances do you prefer? I go with Phantom Thread overall. Beautifully acted film all round with such a difficult character to play.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Aug 14, 2018 7:32:47 GMT
PHANTOM THREAD by far ! He's my win . Couldn't care less about his performance in LINCOLN : Mads Mikkelsen (THE HUNT) , Matthias Schoenaerts (RUST + BONE) or Jean-Louis Trintignant (AMOUR) should have easily taken his spot !
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Aug 14, 2018 7:33:06 GMT
I'll throw a bone to Lincoln
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2018 8:08:34 GMT
phantom thread why are they even being compared
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Aug 14, 2018 8:12:45 GMT
I wouldn't go so far as to say I dislike his Lincoln performance, as that would be a nonsense thing to say, but it is my least favourite of his, barring the few I still need to catch. His work in Phantom Thread on the other hand is the best I've seen from him, and all-time great stuff in my humble.
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 14, 2018 9:26:54 GMT
Phantom Thread and Lincoln are examples of why Oscar nominations especially nowadays shouldn't really be compared because I'm not sure Day-Lewis wasn't better in say The Boxer than Lincoln, it's just Lincoln was a weaker year for acting etc.
Lincoln is the only one of his nominations where he is almost boring (not quite) - he's great there but he's on form from the beginning and maintains.......Phantom Thread is a different thing entirely to me and one of the 5 best performances this decade for a male. You aren't sure at times where he might go and how DDL might get there - at times he is almost comic and at others he's genuinely, achingly, frightening.
The performance evokes the greats like Depardieu in The Woman Next Door, Brando in Last Tango, but then has a different sort of weird detour in it too - performances like Hurt in Love and Death On Long Island or some others. It is quite a creation and it is one of the few DDL performances that genuinely surprised me (one of the main things I look for in any performance).
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Post by ingmarhepburn on Aug 14, 2018 22:57:18 GMT
I think his performance in Lincoln is quite overrated (this, and also Gangs of New York, are his only Oscar nominated performances that I dislike). I thought it lacked vivacity and spirit, and all those inspiring qualities and tons of charisma that you expect to see in a president. The voice he used certainly didn't help. Lincoln was in his 50's by the time he died, so why was Day-Lewis speaking as if he was 90?
Phantom Thread is his best performance after There Will Be Blood. He inhabited that character, and I never, for a single second, had doubts about what he was doing. He also made him intriguing and mysterious, and that's more than what most actors can do.
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Post by countjohn on Aug 15, 2018 0:38:43 GMT
Both are great performances, but Phantom Thread for me. It and There Will be Blood are my favorite DDL performances. That was a very special movie. I think his performance in Lincoln is quite overrated (this, and also Gangs of New York, are his only Oscar nominated performances that I dislike). I thought it lacked vivacity and spirit, and all those inspiring qualities and tons of charisma that you expect to see in a president. The voice he used certainly didn't help. Lincoln was in his 50's by the time he died, so why was Day-Lewis speaking as if he was 90? Well, the real life Lincoln was not reputed to be very charismatic in person. Historians have said that in the age of television he never could have been elected president. Also keep in mind that people died sooner then and even for the time he was considered to be in poor health. A lot of people have speculated that even if he hadn't been shot he would not have survived his second term. So I don't really think the performance was inappropriate. The "kindly granpa" image of him most people have today was probably inaccurate. |
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Post by stephen on Aug 15, 2018 1:59:29 GMT
I think Phantom Thread is much more mercurial and has potential to rise in my estimation, but I think his Lincoln performance is really becoming underrated despite its juggernaut sweep. He didn't just rest on his laurels and play Lincoln the way so many before him have, as this great bellowing bastion of charisma (which would've seemed the easy route for DDL, considering his previous larger-than-life portrayals of quasi-historical men). No, he reinvented the way that modern filmgoers view Abraham Lincoln, all but reviving the sixteenth president's essence to create a man beset by humor and melancholy, grief and duty. It may sound pretentious the way I phrased it, but there's a reason why this particular performance was the one that drew Day-Lewis into doing interviews with Oprah. I think he viewed it as his most difficult role to tackle, because it's such a ubiquitous one in pop culture, and I am inclined to agree with him. More than any other role he's done, it's the one that had the biggest chance of failure.
So my vote is Lincoln for now.
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Post by DeepArcher on Aug 15, 2018 2:39:49 GMT
I'm gonna go with Phantom Thread ... though I do agree with Stephen's assessment of his rendition of Abe. Day-Lewis really shaped how the modern generation views Abraham Lincoln as a person, and everything about his presence was just so immediately powerful that the role became instantly iconic. There's just something about his Reynolds Woodcock that resonates more with me. Perhaps it's because I'm a far bigger fan of the film itself (not dissing Lincoln; Phantom Thread became one of my all-time favorites the first time I saw it, and that's rare for me), but, as others have more or less said, there's just so much more versatility and depth and overall resonance in that one performance that makes it truly worthwhile, somehow still standing out when his two co-stars arguably outperform him (a miraculous feat, as I'll say time and time again) and when he has so much remarkable work to his name.
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Post by cheesecake on Aug 15, 2018 2:42:10 GMT
I adore him in both but give the edge to his swan song.
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Post by finniussnrub on Aug 15, 2018 2:46:53 GMT
As Mr. Woodcock, though he's masterful in both, incidentally showing off his comedic ability within both of his performances, which some wrongly claim he lacks, though in an understated way.
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