Send me a ranked list of your top 25 western films (min. 10) by private message before Sunday, December 2nd.
The eligibility is as simple as: if IMDb lists "western" as a genre for a film, it is eligible. If there is something you think should be eligible that isn't marked as "western" on IMDb, feel free to bring it up in this thread. And unless anyone has any objections, I think miniseries should be eligible.
Also feel free to use this thread for FYCs...
I am leaving the voting open for almost two months, so if you have any westerns you want to catch up on beforehand you have plenty of time... and no fucking excuse.
Hopefully by October I'll have seen a few more (like watching The Searchers here in the next week or so), but probably won't get around to a lot of '60s stuff. So my list will be really light, but I'll vote closer to October.
Either way, FYC to Once Upon a Time in the West which is my #10 film of all-time. Hope it makes the top 5 at least.
I'm gonna do FYCs by decade/era, just because there are dozens of quality oaters and shoot-'em-ups out there.
FYC (2000 to present): • The Proposition (John Hillcoat, 2005) • 3:10 to Yuma (James Mangold, 2007) • The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada (Tommy Lee Jones, 2005) • Seraphim Falls (David Von Ancken, 2006) • True Grit (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2010) • Bone Tomahawk (S. Craig Zahler, 2015) • Meek’s Cutoff (Kelly Reichardt, 2010) • The Revenant (Alejandro G. Inarritu, 2015)
Also posting here to remind myself to re-watch a few of the others you mentioned (Proposition, Three Burials, Meek's Cutoff...).
Pierce Brosnan's never been better, Neeson brings a great old-school swagger to the character and it was made at a time where he actually still gave a damn, the cinematography is great, the costumes are especially terrific. Definitely worth the watch.
The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford Brokeback Mountain Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid Giant Hud* Jeremiah Johnson McCabe & Mrs. Miller Once Upon a Time in the West Red River The Searchers
I'm seeing The Great Silence (in the cinema!!!) later this month. pacinoyes
Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Aug 14, 2018 14:23:44 GMT
This is really not my genre, but I will see if I can throw together a weak ass ballot, as I would like to throw some love in the direction of a handful of specific westerns at the high points end of a list. I'll go on the basis of imdb says western and I'm fine, and do my best .
You know how sometimes I randomly lash out at the board and people are like "Damn, does that weird dude who talks about acting all the time like a lunatic, really hate us?"
Well, yes, yes, I do ..........just kidding/sorta .....
But something to think about:
No actor on our top 50 - none, as in 0, could have been John Wayne and I'm not even a fan but - but you would think someone could have mentioned him - and The Shootist specifically should be on this list. I'm sure he'll appear a lot on this list, but I specifically want to stan for that, because no film used his persona more, the film specifically addresses getting older and death - which God forbid any Americans would watch a movie about since that's part of you know, life - and it's a great farewell role too.
FYC (1980-1989): • Heaven’s Gate (Michael Cimino, 1980) • The Long Riders (Walter Hill, 1980) • The Grey Fox (Phillip Borsos, 1981) • Silverado (Lawrence Kasdan, 1985) • Near Dark (Kathryn Bigelow, 1987) (technically not a Western, but it's got all the trappings of one) • The Milagro Beanfield War (Robert Redford, 1988) • Lonesome Dove (Simon Wincer, 1989)
Not sure if we're gonna allow Lonesome Dove due to its miniseries status, but it is a colossal entry in the genre, with career-defining performances for Duvall, Jones, and several others, and it's been uploaded in its entirety on YouTube in fairly good quality.
FYC (1970-1979): • El Topo (Alejandro Jodorowsky, 1970) • The Ballad of Cable Hogue (Sam Peckinpah, 1970) • Barquero (Gordon Douglas, 1970) • Chisum (Andrew McLaglen, 1970) • A Man Called Horse (Elliot Silverstein, 1970) • Rio Lobo (Howard Hawks, 1970) • There Was a Crooked Man… (Joseph L. Mankiewicz, 1970) • Two Mules for Sister Sara (Don Siegel, 1970) • A Fistful of Dynamite/Duck, You Sucker (Sergio Leone, 1971) • McCabe & Mrs. Miller (Robert Altman, 1971) • Man in the Wilderness (Richard C. Sarafian, 1971) • Bad Company (Robert Benton, 1972) • The Cowboys (Mark Rydell, 1972) • Jeremiah Johnson (Sydney Pollack, 1972) • Joe Kidd (John Sturges, 1972) • Junior Bonner (Sam Peckinpah, 1972) • The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean (John Huston, 1972) • High Plains Drifter (Clint Eastwood, 1973) • Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid (Sam Peckinpah, 1973) • Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia (Sam Peckinpah, 1974) • The Missouri Breaks (Arthur Penn, 1976) • The Outlaw Josey Wales (Clint Eastwood, 1976) • The Shootist (Don Siegel, 1976) • Comes a Horseman (Alan J. Pakula, 1978)
Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Aug 14, 2018 22:14:04 GMT
I can't participate because it's a pretty neglected genre for me and a lot of its highlights seem to be in the 40s and 50s which are also neglected for me. I need to see a lot more, and I'm a lot more open-minded about the genre than I used to be, but I know I can't come up with 25 entries I'm passionate about. For a reference of how neglected this genre is for me, I've seen over 200 films this year and only 4 have been westerns according to Letterboxd...
That said, I hope these get lots of love
Once Upon a Time in the West Hud Assassination of Jesse James 3:10 to Yuma (2007) Hell or High Water* Brokeback Mountain* No Country for old Men* Django Unchained*
Yeah ... also not sure if I'll be able to participate in this one, though I'm gonna do my best to catch-up before the deadline. Westerns are such a weird genre for me, because of the inherent nature of the genre I feel it's something that can either be pulled off remarkably well or go horribly wrong, with not much in-between. Which is why for every western I've seen that I love, there are one or two westerns that I really couldn't give two shits about. And since I haven't even seen *much* from the genre in general, it may be difficult for me to so much as fill out a ballot of twenty-five that I actually like.
That being said, I really love the idea of doing genre film polls and hope to see others do more in the future. (Someone get on sci-fi, please!! I can do it if no one else wants to? Probably not a promise I should make. Also, this should definitely be a one-at-a-time type thing...) And regardless I'm looking forward to seeing the results here. For what it's worth, I'm strongly backing The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford and Once Upon a Time in the West here. Don't disappoint.
May I make the suggestion that the films must be set, for the majority of the film's running time, pre-World War I? Weird distinction I know, but that would preclude neo-westerns (which can be difficult to define) yet would still allow for sort of the post-1800's Mexican westerns like The Wild Bunch and Duck, You Sucker.
FYC! If one female-helmed Western makes the Top 50, it probably should be this.
After not really liking Reichardt's pat triptych Certain Women, I recently saw Meek's and found it quite effective. An expert visual mix of minimalism and beautiful, spare, oppressive landscapes. There's an ingenious fade-transition early in the film that works as foreshadowing a bit but also in theme as staging the slow-moving American West as surreptitious. The premise is simple but clever: three couples on a wagon trail running low on food and supplies give credence to an archetypal old-west mans-man guide Meek, but whose cluelessness and racism divides and nerves the lot. When they decide to switch to a shackled Native American guide, tensions abound with prejudice serving and issuing the characters' own preemptive cynicism. Interestingly detailed, patiently paced, topical themes. 7.5/10