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Post by HELENA MARIA on Aug 13, 2018 8:51:48 GMT
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Post by pupdurcs on Aug 13, 2018 9:58:49 GMT
I think it's nonsense. While the producers may actually follow through and cast Elba, Craig still has at least one more movie ( and possibly more...He's not really a star outside of 007, so he might want to hold on to those fat paychecks and star treatment for as long as he can).
By the time Craig departs, Elba may be too old to sustain a long run in the franchise. You don't want a Roger Moore situation (near the end of his run) where Bond comes off geriatric.
It's mutually beneficial publicity that Elba and Bond producers have been milking for years. It makes the producers look open minded and progressive. And it makes Elba look desirable as a star and a leading man.
Odds are it'll be another white guy. If Elba is to have a shot, Craig needs to not decide he wants to do another one (And they'll allow Craig to extend if he wants. His Bond films make too much cash). Age is not on Elba's side. There are suave black British leading men types coming up quite regularly these days who are much younger. If they want to go black and British, Elba is no longer the only option.
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Post by speeders on Aug 13, 2018 10:37:37 GMT
Age is not on Elba's side. There are suave black British leading men types coming up quite regularly these days who are much younger. If they want to go black and British, Elba is no longer the only option. Exactly. Elba would've been a cool choice instead of Craig 12 years ago. I'd be much more interested in seeing someone like John Boyega (although with the racist hate he got from Star Wars, I'm sure he wants to stay far away from Bond) or other young black British actors to take on the role instead of Elba. |
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Aug 13, 2018 10:43:37 GMT
Agreed on the above, Elba would have been top casting 10 years ago. Craig was 38 or so when he started, and assuming they cast Elba, at the rate it's going, he'll be pushing 50 when his first go happens.
If the producers really do want to go with a Black actor, there are plenty more age appropriate actors in Britain and around the world. Why limit themselves to British actors; they've gone with non-Brits twice already.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Aug 13, 2018 15:55:02 GMT
Yeah I wish they'd stop focusing on who the next Bond will be and start focusing on making the next Bond movie good... because Spectre was shit and we deserve better (hell, Craig does too considering the franchise is bigger than ever now thanks in at least some part to him).
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Post by quetee on Aug 13, 2018 16:01:30 GMT
Never say never, well I'm saying never will this happen. Could people leave this alone and move on please.
I would rather someone come up with an original character for him.
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Post by CookiesNCream on Aug 13, 2018 18:33:55 GMT
Wasn't this announcement already somewhat official in the making?
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Post by stephen on Aug 13, 2018 18:44:14 GMT
I'd be much more excited about this if I thought they were actually going to get cracking on making those movies. Elba's forty-five years old. He's a youthful forty-five, but still, if they hope to have any franchise longevity, they need to make the films more or less consecutively to take full advantage of him. You have to be hoping for a five-film deal at minimum when you cast a new Bond. Elba would be excellent, but I think he's really getting long in the tooth for it.
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Post by finniussnrub on Aug 13, 2018 23:27:09 GMT
Forget Elba, Chiwetel Ejiofor would be perfect.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Aug 13, 2018 23:31:08 GMT
Forget Elba, Chiwetel Ejiofor would be perfect. Yikes ! |
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Post by finniussnrub on Aug 13, 2018 23:47:42 GMT
Forget Elba, Chiwetel Ejiofor would be perfect. Yikes ! Have you seen Redbelt? |
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Post by CookiesNCream on Aug 14, 2018 1:44:58 GMT
Forget Elba, Chiwetel Ejiofor would be perfect. I'm not against that idea... |
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Post by rhodoraonline on Aug 14, 2018 1:57:29 GMT
Did you guys see the Netflix's The Get Down. I'd like to see one of those young actors be the next Jsmes Bond. Especially Justice Smith or Tremain Brown Jr (the youngest one who mimics MJ at one point). They jad charm, presence and great chops!
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Aug 14, 2018 2:52:58 GMT
So many incorrect posts in one thread (Boyega??). Elba would be a perfect Bond. There are few Brits (and yes, Bond has to be British) of his caliber and popularity that so perfectly match Bond's swagger and classically macho charisma so accurately. He's practically Bond already, they just need to hurry up and hire a motherfucker before I go crazy.  |
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Post by bob-coppola on Aug 14, 2018 11:32:10 GMT
Elba is only 5 years younger than Craig and still like a good decade younger. Black don't crack, you guys, he could still be Bond for 10 years and I wouldn't mind. I think this whole campaign for Elba to be cast as the next bond has reached a level in which the producers are look very, very bad if they cast another white actor. And the best part about it all is that, until this week, Elba was completely indifferent towards it. Refreshing after some bland guys like Tom Hiddleston pretty much begging for the part.
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Post by agent69 on Aug 14, 2018 18:55:07 GMT
Idris is 46 in less than a month. He'll be 47 when the supposedly last Craig Bond film will be released. On average there has been a 3.25 year gap between Craig 007 films. so he's be 50 at best when his first would be released. I think it is extremely unrealistic to expect that Wilson and Broccoli would start with Idris where Craig finished, agewise. Still, he would be perfect. But so was Clive Owen and that didn't happen. As for the reaction on who they will cast. I don't think it is possible to cast anyone without it causing some controversies. I mean, some people are seriously expecting Bond to be a woman.  Besides, I think we all remember the shit storm when Craig was cast. And it worked out fine for them. |
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Post by wattsnew on Aug 15, 2018 3:32:31 GMT
Absolutely amazing casting choice. Can't wait for this.
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Post by jakesully on Aug 15, 2018 13:48:34 GMT
Henry Cavill should be the next Bond imo  |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Aug 15, 2018 18:48:25 GMT
I mean, some people are seriously expecting Bond to be a woman. I don't see a problem with that. It would get so much heat if they did it now because people are sensitive about women getting traditionally male jobs, but I'd love to see a future iteration of Bond be female. There's no reason it couldn't work with the right people involved. |
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Post by Billy_Costigan on Aug 15, 2018 18:48:54 GMT
I don't buy it. He'll be nearly 50 when the next one is released. Most of the other actors stopped playing Bond in their early 50s. They'd likely want someone who can carry the franchise for the next decade and a half.
If the goal is to have a black Bond, Daniel Kaluuya would be a better choice in a few years.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Aug 15, 2018 19:02:25 GMT
Everyone's going on and on about a woman or a black man, when in reality it would make most sense to have a Chinese or Middle Eastern actor portray the part.
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Post by agent69 on Aug 15, 2018 19:54:26 GMT
I mean, some people are seriously expecting Bond to be a woman. I don't see a problem with that. It would get so much heat if they did it now because people are sensitive about women getting traditionally male jobs, but I'd love to see a future iteration of Bond be female. There's no reason it couldn't work with the right people involved. I don't know how anyone who's seen a Bond film can seriously expect Bond to be a woman. Firstly, Bond is an archetype. He wears a tux, kills bad guys, sleeps with gorgeous women and drives fast cars. And yes, he's a chauvinist pig. He's practically a parody of manliness. If there is one character in all of moviedome that can't possibly be gender swapped, it's him. Changing the sex completely changes the nature of the game. And that is not something Bond fans want. You can't stretch his character to that point. That's simply not who Bond is, or what a Bond movie is. It would be interesting in a Duck Amuck experiment kind of a thing, but a real Bond it would not be. |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Aug 15, 2018 20:29:29 GMT
I don't see a problem with that. It would get so much heat if they did it now because people are sensitive about women getting traditionally male jobs, but I'd love to see a future iteration of Bond be female. There's no reason it couldn't work with the right people involved. I don't know how anyone who's seen a Bond film can seriously expect Bond to be a woman. Firstly, Bond is an archetype. He wears a tux, kills bad guys, sleeps with gorgeous women and drives fast cars. And yes, he's a chauvinist pig. He's practically a parody of manliness. If there is one character in all of moviedome that can't possibly be gender swapped, it's him. Changing the sex completely changes the nature of the game. And that is not something Bond fans want. Bond has evolved though. "He wears a tux" = expensive formal clothes "Kills bad guys" = gender-neutral "Sleeps with gorgeous women" = sleeps with gorgeous people "Drives fast cars" = gender-neutral Yes he's a parody of manliness, but in 2018 we know a lot of these traits to be totally gender-neutral. The original Bond is a product of a very different era and that's fine, but there's no reason the character can't evolve to be something else to a new generation of filmgoers. Bond films aren't being made to cater to diehard Bond fans; they're being made for the general public. I'm a causal Bond fan myself, so I have the advantage of not being a slave to traditionalist ideas of what a Bond film can be. And that will become increasingly true for an increasing number of people. The amount of people who anticipate a Bond film just because they enjoyed the cheesy, campy films of the 60s and 70s will continue to dwindle and studios will be compelled to react accordingly. And I think they can do that without compromising on the things that makes Bond an enjoyable action figure. You can't stretch his character to that point. That's simply not who Bond is, or what a Bond movie is. It would be interesting in a Duck Amuck experiment kind of a thing, but a real Bond it would not be. I mean, Daniel Craig's Bond already subverted some of the things you've mentioned. Stylistically and tonally they're miles off from their predecessors, and they definitely toned down Bond's chauvinism. Did that invalidate their legitimacy as Bond movies? Not to me anyways. And the Craig movies are going to be what younger audiences have in mind when they think about what a Bond movie is, and I don't see how a female Bond can't theoretically fit into that brand. There are a hundred ways it could go wrong, but you could say that about any film. |
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Besides, I think we all remember the shit storm when Craig was cast. And it worked out fine for them. 
