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Post by stephen on Aug 11, 2018 21:31:53 GMT
1972: 1. Joel Grey 2. Al Pacino 3. Robert Duvall 4. James Caan 5. Eddie Albert
1979: 1. Robert Duvall 2. Frederic Forrest 3. Mickey Rooney 4. Melvyn Douglas 5. Justin Henry (who, it should be noted, is still much better than either of his parents)
1980: 1. John Hurt 2. Robert Duvall 3. Robert De Niro 4. Peter O'Toole 5. Jack Lemmon
1983: 1. Tom Courtenay 2. Robert Duvall 3. Albert Finney 4. Tom Conti 5. Michael Caine
1997: 1. Robert Duvall 2. Peter Fonda 3. Jack Nicholson 4. Dustin Hoffman 5. Matt Damon
1998: 1. Ed Harris 2. Billy Bob Thornton 3. James Coburn 4. Geoffrey Rush 5. Robert Duvall
2014: 1. Edward Norton 2. J.K. Simmons 3. Mark Ruffalo 4. Robert Duvall 5. Ethan Hawke
When it comes to the Big Four of the '70s (De Niro/Pacino/Hoffman/Nicholson), I have been far more partial to Duvall and Hackman: the guys who came in, with no bells and whistles, and crushed it every goddamn time. It speaks a lot to Duvall's consistency in particular that even in things like The Judge (a thoroughly dismal film outside of Duvall, who is legitimately in fine form with a rather predictable role) he is always on his A-game. I don't think any of these performances bar Apocalypse Now and The Apostle would rate in his Top 5 performances (which would be rounded out with Lonesome Dove, Stalin and The Road), but any actor would be proud to have them in his catalogue. I'm really hoping to see Bob come back with one last big role to remind everyone that he isn't just a likable relic of a bygone era.
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Post by pacinoyes on Aug 11, 2018 21:45:53 GMT
Well......I think you may have been surprised by how highly I ranked him on my list since I have been pretty clear that to me he and Hackman (also high) are a notch below the big 4 to me and benefit from being "overrated because they're so underrated" - I've taken Duvall to task for being (imo) not such a nice guy either.
But he ranked very high for filmography as well as talent and historical importance. He also typifies an American archetype through many of his roles and that's important too - he's very much an "American actor" though one who has played outside it too......and he was really close to being a bigger guy in a way I think - he clearly should have won a 2nd Lead Oscar for The Apostle and who knows what that would have opened up ...........and if he had kept up his early theater work he would be a stronger contender as THE major American actor across all 3 mediums - film/TV/stage.
I mean he's major and was this close to being majorer - um..........you know what I mean.
72 - 3rd behind Pacino and Grey 79 - 1st 80 - 3rd behind DeNiro and Hurt 83 - 2nd behind Finney 97 - 1st 98 and 2014 - 4th and 5th same as your list
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Post by stephen on Aug 11, 2018 21:55:05 GMT
Well......I think you may have been surprised by how highly I ranked him on my list since I have been pretty clear that to me he and Hackman (also high) are a notch below the big 4 to me and benefit from being "overrated because they're so underrated" - I've taken Duvall to task for being (imo) not such a nice guy either. But he ranked very high for filmography as well as talent and historical importance. He also typifies an American archetype through many of his roles and that's important too - he's very much an "American actor" though one who has played outside it too......and he was really close to being a bigger guy in a way I think - he clearly should have won a 2nd Lead Oscar for The Apostle and who knows what that would have opened up ...........and if he had kept up his early theater work he would be a stronger contender as THE major American actor across all 3 mediums - film/TV/stage. I actually think that Duvall kinda deserves credit for helping to break the back of the "television is a career wasteland" viewpoint. He came along and conquered the medium with not one but two landmark TV performances (Gus McCrae and Joseph Stalin, arguably the most diverse one-two punch any actor has ever enjoyed; one being a paragon of decency and the other a human monster), fifteen years before Pacino jumped to television.
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Post by cheesecake on Aug 12, 2018 0:19:43 GMT
1972: 1. Al Pacino 2. James Caan 3. Robert Duvall 4. Joel Grey 5. Eddie Albert
1979: 1. Robert Duvall 2. Frederic Forrest 3. Mickey Rooney 4. Justin Henry 5. Melvyn Douglas
1980: 1. John Hurt 2. Robert Duvall 3. Robert De Niro 4. Peter O'Toole
1983: 1. Tom Courtenay 2. Robert Duvall 3. Albert Finney 4. Tom Conti 5. Michael Caine
1997: 1. Peter Fonda 2. Robert Duvall 3. Jack Nicholson 4. Dustin Hoffman 5. Matt Damon
1998: 1. Billy Bob Thornton 2. James Coburn 3. Ed Harris 4. Robert Duvall 5. Geoffrey Rush
2014: 1. J.K. Simmons 2. Edward Norton 3. Ethan Hawke 4. Robert Duvall 5. Mark Ruffalo
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Post by jimmalone on Aug 12, 2018 17:18:33 GMT
1972: 1. Duvall 2. Pacino 3. Grey 4. Caan
not seen Albert
1979: 1. Duvall 2. Douglas 3. Henry
not seen Forrest and Rooney
1980 not seen Duvall so pretty pointless
1983: only seen Duvall and Caine with Duvall being better
1997: 1. Nicholson 2. Duvall 3. Hoffman 4. Damon
not seen Fonda
1998: 1. Harris 2. Duvall 3. Rush 4. Coburn 5. Thornton
2014: 1. Simmons 2. Norton 3. Hawke 4. Ruffalo 5. Duvall
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