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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jun 27, 2018 16:17:21 GMT
...what?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2018 16:18:21 GMT
I'm on board
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Post by stephen on Jun 27, 2018 16:23:29 GMT
This has been in my top ten most anticipated since Sundance. After this trailer, it's in my top five.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jun 27, 2018 16:50:57 GMT
Looks great. Cage in top form again. I'm in.
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Post by Mattsby on Jun 27, 2018 17:39:58 GMT
That trailer isn't for me but I mean, I'd pay to watch Cage fold laundry, so I'm in. Helps that the word outta Sundance was hugely positive (97% on RT).
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Post by Joaquim on Jun 27, 2018 17:52:33 GMT
wtf
And I mean that in a good way
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Post by JangoB on Jun 28, 2018 7:51:00 GMT
As soon as the trailer ended, I said to myself 'This will be among Stephen's top 5 of the year'
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Post by stephen on Jun 28, 2018 17:05:55 GMT
As soon as the trailer ended, I said to myself 'This will be among Stephen's top 5 of the year' YOU THINK YOU KNOW ME? Yeah, you do.
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Post by TheAlwaysClassy on Jun 28, 2018 17:09:55 GMT
Refn-esque
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jun 28, 2018 18:49:28 GMT
I'm confused, but I like it.
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Post by getclutch on Jun 29, 2018 2:44:44 GMT
That's not a chainsaw. THIS is a chainsaw!
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 30, 2018 10:59:22 GMT
I don't hold Nicholas Cage at the same level that some of his defenders do but he at times achieves something I often talk about and perhaps is doing it here - who else could play the role and do that with it, and there are lots of types of acting and the guys we tend to say are the "best" at it are rather the ones who express it in ways we are comfortable with. The "consensus" on actors is often a lie and I don't know what this film is, and it seems tiresome to me from the trailer but you never know until you see it.
What I do know is, in general, throughout his career, at times his style meshes with material and he has given performances that none of his 80s generation of peers (at least) could have even have conceived of - and not all of them are wild and unrestrained either. He gave one of this decades great, haunting performances in Joe for example and it's internal.
There's only so much you can do with these roles - where the actor and character get all tangled up - and his career has suffered for it, but he goes to the beat of his own drummer and you have to admit that his peers/contemporaries seem awfully boring in comparison to whatever voice he hears in his own head.
What he lacks in an actor's control (usually) he can compensate for at times in moments of divine inspiration and you rarely see American actors have inspiration at all........you see craft all the time.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jun 30, 2018 15:07:38 GMT
What he lack in actor's control (usually) he can compensate for at times in moments of divine inspiration and you rarely see American actors have inspiration at all........you see craft all the time. wow...i totally disagree with this
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 30, 2018 15:17:31 GMT
What he lack in actor's control (usually) he can compensate for at times in moments of divine inspiration and you rarely see American actors have inspiration at all........you see craft all the time. wow...i totally disagree with this I don't know how to reply since you didn't elaborate and maybe you don't want a reply and that's fine. Did you mean you actually see American actors having inspiration? Did you mean you don't see mere craft all the time from Americans? Did you mean you don't see inspiration from Cage himself (at times?). I dunno..........
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jun 30, 2018 15:25:31 GMT
wow...i totally disagree with this I don't know how to reply since you didn't elaborate and maybe you don't want a reply and that's fine. Did you mean you actually see American actors having inspiration? Did you mean you don't see mere craft all the time from Americans? Did you mean you don't see inspiration from Cage himself (at times?). I dunno.......... I think to say most American actors don't have inspiration is such a huge blanket statement that I barely know where to begin with a response. What a crazy generalization to make. Maybe you could elaborate what you mean when you say "inspiration," because boy that's a tough pill to swallow.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 30, 2018 15:36:50 GMT
I see........Well let's just look at Cage's generation of actors and what drove me to make that comment because like I said, I don't think people really often know how to judge acting a lot of the time.
I think people respond to things they think are "true" in acting and they think they are true because they've seen it in movies before..........they are in effect responding to "movie truth" not real life truth. They want a performance that makes them feel comfortable and if they don't get it, well, they can judge it harshly. I'm saying those performances often show how much talent an actor has.
If I looked at Tom Hanks and Kevin Spacey two actors I like, two actors that would obviously be rated much higher than Cage I can't really tell you many moments of inspiration I see in either career. They are often good, but very rarely do I say those actors found any sort of poetry or hit notes within the performance that I find "inspired".
That's fine, they have other things - they have control, they have craft, but Cage has at times given some performances that you can't even assess by that "you've seen it before in movies" standard but you can recognize it from life. That's a difference between craft and inspiration.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jun 30, 2018 17:31:29 GMT
That's fine, they have other things - they have control, they have craft, but Cage has at times given some performances that you can't even assess by that "you've seen it before in movies" standard but you can recognize it from life. That's a difference between craft and inspiration. I mean, that's fair if you believe that but I haven't seen many Cage performances that feel particularly realistic (apart from Leaving Las Vegas - I haven't seen Joe yet, I must get on that), certainly not particularly more-so than the work of his contemporaries, but if that's how you feel I can't say you're wrong. He's given some very enjoyable performances when he cuts loose and directors know how to handle what he creates. Adaptation and Wild at Heart are two of my favorites, but not for their realism. I myself have seen plenty of work from American performers that I'd call inspired. Take Jennifer Lawrence in Winter's Bone, or Joaquin Phoenix in The Master, or Quvenzhané Wallis in Beasts of the Southern Wild, or Brie Larson in Short Term 12, and that's just from 2010-2013.
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Post by cheesecake on Jun 30, 2018 20:43:29 GMT
Yes please.
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Post by FrancescoAbides on Jun 30, 2018 22:24:21 GMT
You had me at "Mandy trailer (Nic Cage)" Seriously though, it takes one hell of a film blacksmith to forge a great performance out of Nic Cage, but when it works, the payoff is fucking incredible. That being sad, I'm very hyped for this. Also, I kinda wanna see a Nicolas collaboration between Cage and Refn.
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Post by jakesully on Jul 1, 2018 17:45:13 GMT
God damn this looks bonkers (and I mean that in a good way). I'll be high as a kite when I see this haha
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