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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2022 20:22:30 GMT
What a mess. I didn't know about this. The only celebrity couple-related crazy trial I had been anticipating was the Tory Lanez/Megan Thee Stallion one. Depp has already alleged under oath that Ellen Barkin tried to sexually abuse him in the 80s.
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Post by futuretrunks on Apr 12, 2022 21:12:31 GMT
What a mess. I didn't know about this. The only celebrity couple-related crazy trial I had been anticipating was the Tory Lanez/Megan Thee Stallion one. Depp has already alleged under oath that Ellen Barkin tried to sexually abuse him in the 80s. Huh? Wasn't Depp an adult in the early 80s? I don't understand.
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Post by cherry68 on Apr 13, 2022 5:17:16 GMT
Depp has already alleged under oath that Ellen Barkin tried to sexually abuse him in the 80s. Huh? Wasn't Depp an adult in the early 80s? I don't understand. An adult can't be sexually abused?
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Apr 13, 2022 14:30:37 GMT
I'm confused. I thought he said in a statement that he had a (consensual) sexual relationship or fling with Ellen Barkin in the 90s and she got mad he didn't want to be serious. I wonder if she testifies against him. She seems to be the only celebrity who might testify on Amber's side.
Does anyone know why does James Franco's name come up in connection with this situation? What does he have to do with anything?
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Post by thomasjerome on Apr 13, 2022 14:42:38 GMT
I'm confused. I thought he said in a statement that he had a (consensual) sexual relationship or fling with Ellen Barkin in the 90s and she got mad he didn't want to be serious. I wonder if she testifies against him. She seems to be the only celebrity who might testify on Amber's side. Does anyone know why does James Franco's name come up in connection with this situation? What does he have to do with anything? He testifies on Amber's side (same as Barkin). Heard previously said in court overseas that she once confided in Franco about bruises she sustained from an alleged fight with Depp. They were shooting a film together.
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 19, 2022 23:25:05 GMT
This stuff was unbelievable today......I don't even know where to start .......it was kind of surreal tbh.....
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 20, 2022 23:13:09 GMT
There has been nothing - nothing - in the movies - in 2022 that can compete with this stuff - maybe the cuckold slapping the comedian - the 2 days of Depp on the stand, have been either a great performance, a totally defamation of Amber Heard, a purging of his soul or ......regardless I it's an I can't look away dumpster fire......
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2022 0:53:45 GMT
I'm confused. I thought he said in a statement that he had a (consensual) sexual relationship or fling with Ellen Barkin in the 90s and she got mad he didn't want to be serious. I wonder if she testifies against him. She seems to be the only celebrity who might testify on Amber's side. Does anyone know why does James Franco's name come up in connection with this situation? What does he have to do with anything? He testifies on Amber's side (same as Barkin). Heard previously said in court overseas that she once confided in Franco about bruises she sustained from an alleged fight with Depp. They were shooting a film together. Elon Musk could be called to testify on Amber’s behalf too, yes? Apparently she dated him right after she split from Depp.
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Post by thomasjerome on Apr 21, 2022 1:19:36 GMT
He testifies on Amber's side (same as Barkin). Heard previously said in court overseas that she once confided in Franco about bruises she sustained from an alleged fight with Depp. They were shooting a film together. Elon Musk could be called to testify on Amber’s behalf too, yes? Apparently she dated him right after she split from Depp. Yes, reports claim he'll testify on Amber's behalf. The only celebrity who will testify on Depp's side is seemingly Paul Bettany as their texts were made public at the previous trial.
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Post by Mattsby on Apr 21, 2022 4:18:50 GMT
His testimonies are so strangely intense.... how carefully and extremely slowly he speaks and yet it draws you in.... I'm hanging on every word. I can't tell if he's deeply heartbreaking the jury, or infuriating them. That he's been thru how many years of litigation and a wrecked rep and he's now finally able to confront it all, under oath, and yet he could still lose (again) even though.... I'm sorry but it's true: the evidence is clearly in his favor. But that's not the weird part.... it's recognizing his "acting" and mannerisms in his testimonies, and how nonchalantly okay he seems to be humiliating himself regardless of right or wrong. As drawn out as it's been for two full days, the very first minute of the cross-exam today set an immediately different, crazier, testier tone and tmrw's standoff is sure to be a bonfire. Little side note - I had no idea about his childhood eye problems, jeered for wearing an eye-patch, kinda gives his Captain Jack an unknown poignance.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Apr 21, 2022 5:34:10 GMT
His testimonies are so strangely intense.... how carefully and extremely slowly he speaks and yet it draws you in.... I'm hanging on every word. Yeah, I find it rather mesmerizing tbh...
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Post by Martin Stett on Apr 21, 2022 11:02:03 GMT
His testimonies are so strangely intense.... how carefully and extremely slowly he speaks and yet it draws you in.... I'm hanging on every word. I can't tell if he's deeply heartbreaking the jury, or infuriating them. That he's been thru how many years of litigation and a wrecked rep and he's now finally able to confront it all, under oath, and yet he could still lose (again) even though.... I'm sorry but it's true: the evidence is clearly in his favor. But that's not the weird part.... it's recognizing his "acting" and mannerisms in his testimonies, and how nonchalantly okay he seems to be humiliating himself regardless of right or wrong. I wouldn't call this "humiliating himself" at all. He's merely allowing vulnerability to be openly displayed. In my limited experience, everybody acts, and when talking about traumatic events even more so. It allows the teller to speak of the event while remaining functional; the teller is playing a part for themself, as much as for anyone else. I haven't really been following the case, I know nothing about anyone's guilt or innocence. I just find it interesting that someone views his acting be humiliating when it seems to me to be a perfectly normal manner of distancing himself from something that hurts while maintaining the ability to recount it. Truth or not, he is certainly acting - I just find that acting to be normal behavior from what I've seen.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Apr 21, 2022 12:50:47 GMT
Johnny was being petty with the emphasis on "Mr Rottenborn" I don't know if he's going to win based on that article he's suing over though. I think the public is more on his side, however. I have a feeling this is the calm before the storm because once her defense portion begins, they will be doing the most. Since they keep asking if Johnny has a history of abusing women, can they bring up Amber's arrest for abusing a girlfriend?
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Post by thomasjerome on Apr 21, 2022 13:14:22 GMT
Since they keep asking if Johnny has a history of abusing women, can they bring up Amber's arrest for abusing a girlfriend? Sure but who knows if it's going to work or not because Amber is still on good terms with her ex-girlfriend who defended Amber against Johnny and said she was " wrongfully accused". Her name brought up in the previous trial as Depp is not a fan of her it seems.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Apr 21, 2022 15:29:46 GMT
Since they keep asking if Johnny has a history of abusing women, can they bring up Amber's arrest for abusing a girlfriend? Sure but who knows if it's going to work or not because Amber is still on good terms with her ex-girlfriend who defended Amber against Johnny and said she was " wrongfully accused". Her name brought up in the previous trial as Depp is not a fan of her it seems.Oh she's on good terms with the ex. I didn't know that. Okay. Yeah, I don't believe Johnny's going to win this. The piece she wrote doesn't read as strong enough to make his case and he already experienced the fall out before the article.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Apr 22, 2022 6:55:46 GMT
God, that painfully long audio recording they played of Heard telling Depp not to cut himself with a knife... it was excruciating enough to listen to on its own, but watching Depp himself listen to it was almost unbearable...
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Apr 22, 2022 20:11:37 GMT
Jesus, what a painful note that was to end the week on. Imagine going into your weekend with that recording played being the last thing on your mind. Potentially very triggering too.
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Post by futuretrunks on Apr 23, 2022 22:16:58 GMT
Depp has the wrong idea. He needs to distance himself from all things Heard and make one undeniably successful movie. If Mel fucking Gibson could come back after his scandals and be nominated for Best Director with a hit film (that was actually good), he has no excuses. Develop good material, stay away from Amber Heard, and then court some notable directors to hire you, including his old buddy Tim Burton. Even if he won the court case against Heard, it would mean little unless he puts in the hard work of resurrecting his career. He can't just be lazy and expect great offers in his current situation.
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Post by ingmarhepburn on Apr 26, 2022 15:05:11 GMT
I think I'll abstain from taking sides on this one, because both parties seem to be completely screwed up, but I gotta admit, Amber's defense is doing a hell of a job in making Depp look ugly in the picture. Even if he wins the case (which I think he will), in a way he has already lost.
I can't "read" Amber, I don't know if she's a saint, the devil in disguise or just completely clueless, but I'm leaning more towards the second. As for Depp, he clearly has some very serious issues that he needs to deal with, and I'm not talking only about the substante (alcohol and drug) abuse, but also about his repressed anger (to himself, to his mom, to himsef and his mom, or to someone else). Not sure when the displays of toxic behaviour exactly started, but how he made this far in the business is genuinely surprising to me.
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Post by stabcaesar on Apr 26, 2022 15:19:14 GMT
I think I'll abstain from taking sides on this one, because both parties seem to be completely screwed up, but I gotta admit, Amber's defense is doing a hell of a job in making Depp look ugly in the picture. Even if he wins the case (which I think he will), in a way he has already lost. I can't "read" Amber, I don't know if she's a saint, the devil in disguise or just completely clueless, but I'm leaning more towards the second. As for Depp, he clearly has some very serious issues that he needs to deal with, and I'm not talking only about the substante (alcohol and drug) abuse, but also about his repressed anger (to himself, to his mom, to himsef and his mom, or to someone else). Not sure when this exactly started, but how he made this far in the business is genuinely surprising to me. Depp is not winning. This is about the op-ed written by Amber Heard in which she never once specified Johnny Depp. He has no case. This litigation is a PR stunt to win him some sympathy.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Apr 26, 2022 17:08:00 GMT
yeah I don't think it's possible to pick sides. They both seem like abusive pieces of shit. I wish there was away for the judge to rule against both of them.
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Post by ingmarhepburn on Apr 26, 2022 18:29:21 GMT
yeah I don't think it's possible to pick sides. They both seem like abusive pieces of shit. I wish there was away for the judge to rule against both of them. Not going to comment on the abuse allegations because that's just too risky a territory, but from what I see, the public is mostly on Depp's side, so I think he will be "fine" in the end. But whatever comes off from the court in response to those allegations, I do think that the court should do something like force him to seek help to quit drugs/alcohol or seek therapy in order to deal with some unprocessed feelings in healthy ways. Not trying to paint him as 'the victim' or as 'the abuser', but substance abuse and self-harm are huge red flags.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Apr 27, 2022 4:11:35 GMT
The number of recordings that exist of their personal interactions is insane. I haven't watched or listened to every second of this shitshow because it's exhausting, but it's more than a little sketchy to me that Heard managed to record all of this stuff, and yet somehow hasn't been able to provide any evidence of physical abuse on Depp's part whereas there's plenty of it on the other side. For someone who seems to be surprisingly good at recording things, you'd think she'd find a way to preemptively put her phone on record or something if she felt like an argument was going to turn violent against her. A lot of what you hear in the recordings though is Heard screaming at Depp and him trying to deescalate the situation. Not saying Depp is blameless since we don't have every second of their relationship documented of course, and he obviously has his own serious issues... I'm just not yet convinced he's an abuser based on the "evidence" Heard's defense has produced so far.
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Post by ingmarhepburn on Apr 28, 2022 1:38:55 GMT
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Post by quetee on Apr 29, 2022 0:13:39 GMT
The number of recordings that exist of their personal interactions is insane. I haven't watched or listened to every second of this shitshow because it's exhausting, but it's more than a little sketchy to me that Heard managed to record all of this stuff, and yet somehow hasn't been able to provide any evidence of physical abuse on Depp's part whereas there's plenty of it on the other side. For someone who seems to be surprisingly good at recording things, you'd think she'd find a way to preemptively put her phone on record or something if she felt like an argument was going to turn violent against her. A lot of what you hear in the recordings though is Heard screaming at Depp and him trying to deescalate the situation. Not saying Depp is blameless since we don't have every second of their relationship documented of course, and he obviously has his own serious issues... I'm just not yet convinced he's an abuser based on the "evidence" Heard's defense has produced so far. I have it on during work and listen during commute. You're right, there are hundreds of hours of audio but so far I haven't heard anything where there is physical violence. She's the one with rage issues. It's gonna be interesting to see what her sister says because she was on some reality tv show before Amber became famous where someone asked her about a bruise on her face and she mentioned that her sister beat her up.
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