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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2018 19:30:20 GMT
Are you a fan of this cult British classic? I watched it for the first time this morning. Trivia: It's Kate Moss' favorite film.
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Post by pacinoyes on May 5, 2018 21:01:31 GMT
It's one of the best screenplays of its era - an original screenplay in every definition of the word original - by Bruce Robinson who never came close to it again afterwards. In addition to that, it has one of the best, most profound and poetic endings of its era too. It would probably either make or just miss by top 10 English language of the 80s if I could make my brain keep a list of something like that and not change it every day
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Post by stephen on May 5, 2018 21:03:11 GMT
McGann and Grant are masterful, and it's an absolute shame that neither actor really reached the peaks of their contemporaries -- particularly McGann. Richard Griffiths is also a hoot and a half as Uncle Monty.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2018 15:14:27 GMT
Are you guys fans of Richard E. Grant in general? I enjoy seeing him in supporting roles (he's always a solid, dependable character actor presence), but I find his candor... A bit off-putting. Take this quote for instance:
When I see actors talking about world peace, it makes my sphincter weak. There is a difference between Emma Thompson talking about a world catastrophe and--God!--Demi Moore talking about it. Goldie Hawn talking about the elephants has a different impact than Joanna Lumley. Sometimes Hollywood doesn't seem a million miles from a Miss World contest. I just don't have strong enough mental furniture to withstand it.
Like... WTF does he even mean by that?
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Post by stephen on May 6, 2018 15:18:05 GMT
Are you guys fans of Richard E. Grant in general? I enjoy seeing him in supporting roles (he's always a solid, dependable character actor presence), but I find his candor... A bit off-putting. Take this quote for instance: When I see actors talking about world peace, it makes my sphincter weak. There is a difference between Emma Thompson talking about a world catastrophe and--God!--Demi Moore talking about it. Goldie Hawn talking about the elephants has a different impact than Joanna Lumley. Sometimes Hollywood doesn't seem a million miles from a Miss World contest. I just don't have strong enough mental furniture to withstand it.Like... WTF does he even mean by that? I mean, he'll always be Clifford from Spice World to me. In terms of that comment, it's clear that he thinks that Hollywood is far more vapid and that there isn't a whole lot of great mental talent compared to his hometown gang, which he probably views as more cerebral.
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Post by pacinoyes on May 6, 2018 16:07:59 GMT
Well his casting in the film is really just a happy accident. I may be mistaken but I think DDL almost played that role and given his struggles finding the right comedy vehicle in his (spectacular) career I reckon he would have loved to and the ending of the film with him playing it almost makes my head explode. But Grant is what he is and what he is was defined there to the benefit of the piece.
I don't think he can do much different in film - his somewhat smug personality sort of overwhelms what he does, but he is a dependable presence and solid. I recently saw him in the BBC 4 part film The Fear as a doctor to Peter Mullan's mentally deteriorating gangster and his pompous, condescending manner was used there to scary effect - he was noticeably special there.
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Post by stephen on May 6, 2018 16:12:41 GMT
Well his casting in the film is really just a happy accident. I may be mistaken but I think DDL almost played that role and given his struggles finding the right comedy vehicle in his (spectacular) career I reckon he would have loved to and the ending of the film with him playing it almost makes my head explode. But Grant is what he is and what he is was defined there to the benefit of the piece. I don't think he can do much different in film - his somewhat smug personality sort of overwhelms what he does, but he is a dependable presence and solid. I recently saw him in the BBC 4 part film The Fear as a doctor to Peter Mullan's mentally deteriorating gangster and his pompous, condescending manner was used their to scary effect - he was noticeably special there. Day-Lewis and McGann together would've been amazing. McGann is kind of the definitive example of "what could've been": he was almost Sharpe (which is what catapulted Sean Bean into the limelight), he was the Eighth Doctor in an aborted reboot of Doctor Who (and he's always been my favorite Doctor), and what I consider his greatest performance (Golic in Alien 3, which is a harrowing take on Renfield and is perhaps the most visceral portrayal of mad zealotry I've seen in film) was drastically truncated in the original theatrical cut, only being restored in the assembly version a decade or so later. McGann had the looks, the presence, and the talent of his "Brit Pack" cohorts, but never quite stuck the landing the way Day-Lewis and the others did. When he cropped up on Luther, I was stoked when I heard he was in it, but it was a relatively thankless role that didn't use him to his full potential.
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Post by getclutch on May 6, 2018 22:14:22 GMT
This film has got a brilliant array of characters in it, and even the drunk Irishman in the pub is great to watch with his few number of lines. An absolute classic and is a film that encompasses humor, sadness and depth.
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Post by Ugolin on May 7, 2018 1:03:41 GMT
Love the film. One of, if not THE, most quotable films for me. To add to the praise of its script: I read it a few months ago and, despite worth purchasing alone for the quite touching introduction by Bruce, I was surprised by how playful and witty the written action was. For those curious I’ll list some bits: On their apartment: “Dostoyevsky described hell as perhaps nothing more than a room with a chair in it. This room has several chairs.”“A church bell tolls somewhere. Misery times eight equals this Sunday. Marwood is squinting at his reflection in a puddle. Like an Escher drawing.”On Withnail, “beginning to look like some minor character from a 19th-century Russian novel. Withnailovich. Incidental to the plot.”After the ending soliloquy: “Albert Finney never felt so good.”
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on May 7, 2018 1:52:00 GMT
Excellent film to be sure, and Richard E. Grant gives one of the funniest performances ever.
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Post by Nikan on May 19, 2018 22:52:49 GMT
A coward you are Withnail! an expert on bulls you're not!
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