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Post by notacrook on Mar 20, 2018 23:07:10 GMT
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Post by jakesully on Mar 21, 2018 0:17:53 GMT
^^^ Glad you enjoyed it! I've been hyped for this ever since the reviews came out . It sounds right up my alley.
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Post by stephen on Mar 21, 2018 16:16:16 GMT
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Post by JangoB on Mar 22, 2018 23:36:58 GMT
An absolutely terrific film from Lynne Ramsay who I just wish was more prolific. Then again, maybe these breaks between movies just make them better. Anyway, I loved this. Ramsay throws every cinematic tool she has to put us right inside Joe's (our main character) head - something that I truly love in film and which is very difficult to do properly. Joe's world (both inner and outer) is a grim and truly dark one yet it feels incredible to go so deep inside it. It is one of the most anti-genre genre films I've seen in a while and the balance between the artful and the pulpy is measured to a perfect degree by Ramsay. It genuinely feels like a painting a lot of the time - each cut is like a new brushstroke while the magnificent sound design gives it its vivid colors. Jonny Greenwood's score is also simply perfect for this film, beautifully dissonant work for a truly dissonant character. A character that is amazingly portrayed by Phoenix who really is one of the greatest actors of the day. A fantastic film.
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Post by Mattsby on Apr 6, 2018 23:13:25 GMT
Opened today limited. Anybody else see this yet? Also, Lynne Ramsay did a Reddit AMA yesterday and was asked her "dream project that she hopes to make in the future" and she said Blood Meridian. Thoughts.... stephen pacinoyes ibbi others...
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Post by stephen on Apr 6, 2018 23:17:34 GMT
Opened today limited. Anybody else see this yet? Also, Lynne Ramsay did a Reddit AMA yesterday and was asked her "dream project that she hopes to make in the future" and she said Blood Meridian. Thoughts.... stephen pacinoyes ibbi others... Ramsay would definitely capture the bleakness of it, but I'd actually peg her as more suited for Outer Dark. It's a far more intimate yet no less horrific story, and its fable-esque aspects are more Ramsay's speed. I do like her ambition, though, and if she were to tackle Blood Meridian, I'd be game to see what she could bring to the table (and it's a given Greenwood would be with her, so there's that!). I will say that if she does do it, she needs Tommy Flanagan in there somewhere as one of the Glanton Gang. But if she does want to do it, would she mind using my script?
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Post by jakesully on Apr 7, 2018 2:11:47 GMT
( Its criminal that Blood Meridian hasn't been made yet. )
But to get back on topic , Bumbray of Joblo gave You Were Never Really Here a 10/10 rating . Fuckin a . I usually see eye to eye with him and consider him to be one of the better critics working today . Freaking can't wait for this one !
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Post by pacinoyes on Apr 7, 2018 9:09:31 GMT
I think she seems to have the sensibility but maybe not the scope - and this will probably not go over well but, why is this great and distinctly American novel being discussed for a non-American - I mean maybe it has to be that way but you would have thought at one time an American, just one, could crack it.
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Post by stephen on Apr 7, 2018 13:14:41 GMT
I think she seems to have the sensibility but maybe not the scope - and this will probably not go over well but, why is this great and distinctly American novel being discussed for a non-American - I mean maybe it has to be that way but you would have thought at one time an American, just one, could crack it. I don't know if a non-American is incapable of making this film. Nicolas Winding Refn has been my choice for directing Blood Meridian for the better part of a decade ( Valhalla Rising, for my money, is the closest film has gotten to evoking what McCarthy had written in Blood Meridian). Even though the novel takes place in America and deals with the bloody brutality that America built herself upon (a history so many people don't know or wish to forget), it has a Biblical feel to it that feels as ancient as time and yet as prescient as this morning's paper. I don't think an "outsider" like Refn or Ramsay or Werner Herzog would be a terrible fit at all. I do agree that the scope seems to be Ramsay's biggest hurdle, but it's only because she hasn't tackled something so immense before. But she did intend to do a Moby Dick in space movie (which I still hope she does), so I think she's certainly got the ambition for it.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Apr 7, 2018 15:28:23 GMT
I think she seems to have the sensibility but maybe not the scope - and this will probably not go over well but, why is this great and distinctly American novel being discussed for a non-American - I mean maybe it has to be that way but you would have thought at one time an American, just one, could crack it. Because a "non American" will likely get the opportunity to direct it first, that's how it works. I have no issue with it honestly. I just want a good film to be made out of the material. However I question if Ramsey is even the right person to direct. It doesn't seem to be up her alley, especially given the scope of the novel. Hopefully she surprises me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2018 0:55:56 GMT
I thought it was pretty good. Ramsay’s direction and Phoenix’s performance elevate it and really let us dive into the mind of this tortured man. That being said, I felt the narrative wasn’t always strong or substantial beyond what I mentioned above. I don’t know if I just “didn’t get it” but there’s some things I didn’t catch until I read it on Wikipedia to clear things up. Like I don’t get Joe’s displeasure with the middleman’s son seeing him, or how Joe apparently pieces together the prostitution scheme from Williams before finding Nina again. I guess the unconventional approach Ramsay took works in some ways, though I wasn’t truly in love with it. It’s a soft 8 or rough 7 for me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2018 9:05:11 GMT
movie equivalent of: love it. also, greenwood's score is absolute goat level.
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Post by jakesully on Apr 13, 2018 19:24:44 GMT
wow Wow WOW this was fucking amazing ! Hollywood better let Lynne Ramsay make whatever film she wants cause her direction in this was masterful . And of course Phoenix is in full on Beast Mode here. Cracking mofos' heads open left & right with a hammer . I really loved everything about this film & Greenwood's score was aces too . Gonna try and see it again next week with some buddies (flew solo today) solid 9/10
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Post by FrancescoAbides on Apr 13, 2018 20:37:04 GMT
This film was a tough watch, brutal in every sense, disturbing (but also badass no?). Masterful filmmaking from Lynne Ramsay. My goodness that sound design was fucking amazing Jonny Greenwood made two outstanding scores in one year, and yet they are so different, it's something truly remarkable. I wish the film was longer, but the editing was aces, this is cinema and its language as its finest. We'll get another colab between Phoenix and Ramsay, hopefully...and because I want to.
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Post by moonman157 on Apr 14, 2018 5:05:20 GMT
If Lynne Ramsay gets the rights to Blood Meridian, one of the great American novels, I'll kill myself. You Were Never Really Here feels like a Refn movie in the sense that it is almost entirely empty aesthetic posturing. A formalist exercise that shows considerable directorial flex but is ultimately just an empty shell of a movie. Phoenix and Greenwood are the MVPs but the movie is entirely lacking of any significant emotional depth beyond a few compelling images of suicide ideation. Weak stuff.
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Post by Lord_Buscemi on Apr 14, 2018 10:36:30 GMT
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Post by moonman157 on Apr 14, 2018 12:59:25 GMT
Your review nails it. The movie is a sometimes impressive visceral depiction of the PTSD without really doing the labor of digging deeper into it. I thought the use of flashbacks was rather cheap.
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Post by moonman157 on Apr 14, 2018 18:14:49 GMT
Yay its not releasing near me antime soon weeeeeeeeee. it's online
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Post by wallsofjericho on Apr 14, 2018 21:16:06 GMT
This was f'n awesome in every way. Phoenix was outstanding and gave his best performance since The Master.
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Post by TheAlwaysClassy on Apr 16, 2018 0:45:52 GMT
So I have a new Best picture winner for 2017. And Best Director. Pattinson is still my winner for Actor though. 9/10.
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Post by DeepArcher on Apr 21, 2018 3:07:42 GMT
Well, I can say that I was not ready for that.
And my friends reeeeaally weren't ready for that.
Just, wow. I was expecting something like Drive meets Eyes Wide Shut, was instead treated to We Need to Talk About Kevin on steroids mixed with a dash of a ton of shit that I'd just never seen before. Ramsay pioneers new ways in making her audience feel physically uncomfortable and emotionally distressed to no end. It's shocking, uncompromising, and brutal in every which way, a psychological portrait that is pure horror made even more troubling by how plausible it is. A staggering work on nearly every possible level, even though I'm not sure what I'm supposed to take from it beyond the arduous experience of it all and the many conflicting emotions it has left me with.
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