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Post by mrimpossible on Mar 11, 2018 16:43:00 GMT
I still think it's a masterpiece.
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Post by stephen on Mar 11, 2018 16:47:18 GMT
I wrote this review after I saw it, but my thoughts still hold up:
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Post by wallsofjericho on Mar 11, 2018 17:12:39 GMT
Holds up very well in every regard.
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Post by stephen on Mar 11, 2018 17:20:21 GMT
Holds up very well in every regard. I will say this: as beautiful as the cinematography is, I do wish that Chivo had shot it more like Sleepy Hollow. That film's evocative shadows and gloomy atmosphere would've served The Revenant magnificently, and it would've almost made it a horror film of sorts.
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Post by jakesully on Mar 11, 2018 17:47:20 GMT
I too think its a masterpiece . Love everything about it (saw it twice in theaters ) well deserved Oscars for AGI & Leo too. The bear mauling scene is one of the best directed scenes of this decade imo.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Mar 11, 2018 18:11:37 GMT
Holds up very well in every regard. I will say this: as beautiful as the cinematography is, I do wish that Chivo had shot it more like Sleepy Hollow. That film's evocative shadows and gloomy atmosphere would've served The Revenant magnificently, and it would've almost made it a horror film of sorts. Hate to disagree with you there, but I must. I like your idea of more a horror element/flourishes, but I cannot envision that opening attack scene shot like SH without making my brain shake its head furiously doing the Vader "No.. no... nO... NOOOOOOO!"
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Post by FrancescoAbides on Mar 11, 2018 18:48:19 GMT
It's a masterpiece for sure. Tom Hardy is riveting and Leo's intense performance is tremendous. It's not my favourite Iñárritu's film or my favourite work from Chivo, but it's damn close.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 11, 2018 18:58:37 GMT
I don't know if I'd say "masterpiece" but it's certainly great and evocative of Herzog, so that's pretty lofty praise indeed coming from me.
I had it at #2 (behind The Witch), the worst I can say about it is it's maybe a little too long, but there's a whole lot right with it.
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Post by JangoB on Mar 11, 2018 19:29:20 GMT
It's quite an experience. I do think it's a tad too pompous for its own good and I really could've done without floating wives but the filmmaking is just tremendous here. You feel the cold, the pain, the bruises, the brutality and you dive into the experience of it as if you were right there with Glass.
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Post by Javi on Mar 12, 2018 0:35:06 GMT
Same as 3 years ago. 25% wasted potential, 75% crap. The most that can be said for this film is that it's beautifully photographed, and that's not even true for big portions of the movie where one has to endure those long, ugly ass shots of DiCaprio's face crawling in the mud (and he is still a limited actor, Oscar or no Oscar).
But the absolute worst comes towards the end when Iñárritu thinks he's giving us these amazing spiritual insights. Herzog had the good taste to avoid that in his nature epics.
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Post by eliuson on Mar 12, 2018 5:31:55 GMT
A tad pompous for its own good and it becomes a bit of a slog in its final third and yet there are so many moments of brilliance that still linger in my mind.
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Post by ibbi on Mar 12, 2018 10:50:38 GMT
I really, really, really cannot stand the ridiculous family that they concocted for him. The hokey mysticism of the flashbacks with the wife and the trite invention of the son. I hate both elements of the film so much I ventured back into editing for pretty much the first time in over a decade and hacked up the film taking both out of it Because beyond those two issues I think the film is basically perfect. Like you could see Arriaga's fingerprints all over Inarritu's first 2/3 films you can see Lubezki's all over this (and Birdman too, I guess) I love how much creative input he gives to his collaborators. This was doubly refreshing for me because it's pretty much the first film of his since Amores Perros that I out and out loved. As someone that flat out hated Birdman this movie is like an apology, an antidote. No safety indoors, no stagey qualities at all, no reliance upon the verbal. Idea and theme communicated instead primarily through the visual, or through action. The film driving imagery this time intrinsically linked to the heart and soul of the film rather than an exercise in ostentation. It is comfortably the most gloriously cinematic thing he has ever done.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Mar 12, 2018 13:41:02 GMT
I thought it was thoroughly ordinary then and I don't think anything different about it now. I think I'd have to be threatened with notable violence in order to be coerced into re-visiting it.
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Post by avnermoriarti on Mar 13, 2018 17:58:32 GMT
I hate so many aspects about it, Dicaprio's character defying the human strength to unthinkable levels, the way Iñarritu tries to redim this character at the end is dissapointing, like really, that's it ? the indians reciting twitter philosophy, the horny frenchies, the annoying son, the macho opening and it also becomes a battle of egos, AGI on one side and Lubesski on the other, the visual aspect of the film is shapeless, to me is like a human body carrying a head 10x its weight and barely holding a step, it's malformed. But legend Jack Fisk, the bear, Hardy and sound guys do enough for me to tolerate everything else.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 18:04:05 GMT
I found it pretty dull, and the scenes with his visions were just awkward. I remember liking the ending though.
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Post by AKenjiB on Mar 13, 2018 18:26:39 GMT
I rewatched it a couple months ago, my first viewing since seeing it in theaters and I thought it holds up quite well. A few hokey moments and a few points when maybe the camera lingers for a tiny bit too long, but it's hard for me to complain when the cinematography is that beautiful. Leonardo DiCaprio is incredible, especially since his performance is largely physical in nature and the borderline unrecognizable Tom Hardy is a wonderful villain. He's menacing and intimidating when he needs to be but his motives are understandable. There's a real sense of brutality to everything. You feel a sense of danger when the Arikara attack the camp. You feel freezing as the characters try to make it through the cold. You feel in pain as you see that grizzly maul Glass. It's a very visceral experience and the actual discomfort that the actors had to go through really paid off in the final product.
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Post by countjohn on Mar 13, 2018 21:42:33 GMT
Good cinematography and tension and a good performance from Leo, although he didn't deserve the Oscar. Better than Spotlight, although I think it's only like my no. 8 for the year. It's more solid than anything else. Not the sort of thing I have a particular desire to rewatch, it's a "ride" the first time you see it in the theater and that's about it.
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Post by Film Socialism on Mar 13, 2018 22:39:50 GMT
pretty good
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Post by no on Mar 13, 2018 23:06:44 GMT
Meh-venant
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 14, 2018 0:24:33 GMT
Pretentious, psuedo-Malickian, self-important, spiritualistic twaddle. A blast of hot air. Inarritu weighs down what should have been a straightforward, harrowing survival story with a half-assed revenge plot and a towering ego. It's such a thirsty movie. Nearly every frame screams at fever pitch "LOOK HOW HARD WE'RE TRYING! LOOK HOW IMPRESSIVE WE ARE!" I know I fixate a lot on how brilliant a filmmaker Bennett Miller is, but I remember thinking at the time what someone like him would have brought to this kind of high-budget project. Certainly a bit more focus and restraint. It's astounding to me that a film about such a gritty, hard-hitting concept has its head so far in the clouds. A straightforward approach would have grounded the movie to reality and away from the kind of naval-gazing that Inarritu loves to do.
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Post by tastytomatoes on Mar 14, 2018 1:31:09 GMT
Saw it in the cinemas the first time and the visuals are stunning, really drew me into the world. When I rewatched it at home, the magic has lost a bit and I noticed how lacking it is in the plot to make a second watch worthwhile or intriguing.
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Post by countjohn on Mar 14, 2018 3:06:25 GMT
Saw it in the cinemas the first time and the visuals are stunning, really drew me into the world. When I rewatched it at home, the magic has lost a bit and I noticed how lacking it is in the plot to make a second watch worthwhile or intriguing. Haven't seen it since it was out but I have a feeling it's one of those movies that really isn't the same if you don't watch it on the big screen. Can't really decide if that's a pro or a con. On the one hand it means you're utilizing the medium, but on the other it may indicate a lack of substance.
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Post by tobias on Mar 17, 2018 1:15:02 GMT
The same as when I first saw it: It's a good anti-western but the things it tries beyond that it really could have done without. So yeah, good but not exeptional (the only exceptional thing Inniaritu did is Birdman... maybe Amorres Perros). I do think Inniaritu could make for a very good genre director (maybe kinda like Anthony Mann) if he ever embraced that but almost everything he tries beyond that regularly looks half-baked and very on the nose (Babel is embarassingly bad but technically very competently directed, he got a keen eye certainly). In Birdman it worked because effectively Birdman was in a sense a genre film within a genre that doesn't really exist. The film lives from being super ridiculous and fantastical and in its most ridiculous aspects, it had a glimpse of truth. The Revenant tries to be much too serious when at its heart it's a less serious anti-western than many of Peckinpah's (Peckinpah made multiple better ones btw).
As I said, that's what I thought from the get-go but it's not really meant to be all that negative, I like the film, I think a lot of things were done well, I just think Inniaritu takes the wrong approach. None of the religious symbolism ammounted to anything. Don't try to be Malick, Herzog and Tarkovsky all at once when you've apparently never read philosophy or poetry (or are entirely unable to translate it to film). I mean there's nothing wrong about being Anthony Mann, is there?
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Post by oneflyr on Mar 17, 2018 8:00:09 GMT
Hollow and misery porny.
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Post by ingmarhepburn on Mar 17, 2018 9:38:36 GMT
Not a fan. Tom Hardy was good, though.
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