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Post by Viced on Mar 5, 2018 22:46:17 GMT
Still pretty shitty.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2018 22:54:48 GMT
Still poorly executed.
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Post by Martin Stett on Mar 6, 2018 0:38:15 GMT
Still pretty awesome
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Post by stephen on Mar 6, 2018 0:47:59 GMT
Messy and unnecessarily flashy. Bale is pretty fucking bad in it, too. His character should've been fused with Gosling's. It feels like an extraordinarily rough draft, and I hate McKay's direction.
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 6, 2018 1:37:47 GMT
Well regarded by me and like WoWS (though not at that level) it has a righteous anger to it - love the cast, and while I can gripe about some of the directorial choices it wins you over.
That is a classic Bale performance like American Hustle where he starts off somewhere far outside the strike zone and ends up down the middle of the plate without seeming to move at all.
7.5/10
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Post by DeepArcher on Mar 6, 2018 1:42:23 GMT
It was a blast to watch when it came out; it's definitely one of those that's best viewed in a crowded theater, because that was one hell of an experience, and it made me love the film upon its initial release.
That said, I still think it's aged incredibly well even if further re-watches haven't proven to be nearly as entertaining, and I don't really understand the hate that this gets. It's messy here and there, but I still love its approach and the way it delivers its story (a style that feels like it's already proven to be hugely influential with the likes of I, Tonya and such). The comedy actually lands consistently, and the entire cast is aces.
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Post by Film Socialism on Mar 6, 2018 9:41:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2018 10:36:10 GMT
It’s kind of pretentious and gimmicky - they knew the subject matter was boring (to the point where they seem to remind us frequently as if to justify it) so they make it up with cameos and all that “witty, snappy” dialogue. Carell is the only standout for me. Everyone else is an annoying prick. The weird thing is, I’m still looking forward to McKay’s Cheney movie if not only for its cast.
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Post by ibbi on Mar 6, 2018 12:56:27 GMT
I think it's a mess. Horribly overwritten to the point of being condescending, yet the general irreverence with which so much of it is treated makes that almost forgivable. The cast are also almost without exception really good, and sell the whole thing even if you can't wrap your head around what the hell they're talking about half the time... Yet I think the choice of focusing the thing more on Carell's character than anybody else is annoyingly misguided.
Trying to give your movie a soul is no bad thing, but for a movie so intent on serving as a warning would anyone that's fallen victim to this kind of crap sit there and think anything other than "fuck this guy and his moral conundrum"? There is nothing here as concise and to the point as the end credits of The Other Guys.
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Mar 6, 2018 13:16:40 GMT
Loved it then and loved it now. I may even give it another watch now that it's on Netflix.
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Post by Zeb31 on Mar 6, 2018 15:38:01 GMT
It's pretty much a mess and some of McKay's directorial choices are headscratchers (Bale's performance being chief among them), but it holds together far better than I'd expected going in. It's surprisingly engaging and crazy entertaining, and I can totally forgive how rough around the edges it is because for all his flaws, McKay communicates his anger and sarcasm with plenty of bite and urgency. I haven't revisited it since I first saw it two years ago, but I liked it a lot.
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Post by The-Havok on Mar 6, 2018 17:12:39 GMT
Messy and the writing can range from downright horrible (the Goldman Sachs CDS board scene, ‘I can’t see a damn thing’ like seriously McKay? And the shooting range) to timeless material.
Still a great film despite McKay contrived politics and pretty much omitting accuracy for the sake of Democratic Hollywood arrogance and self righteousness. One of my favorite films actually.
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Best Motion Picture of the Year, #3 Best Actor in a Supporting Role, Ryan Gosling Best Film Editing, #2 Best Cinematography, #5 Best Original Score, #4 Best Soundtrack, #1 Best Ensemble Cast
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Post by The-Havok on Mar 6, 2018 17:14:23 GMT
Messy and unnecessarily flashy. Bale is pretty fucking bad in it, too. His character should've been fused with Gosling's. It feels like an extraordinarily rough draft, and I hate McKay's direction. >His character should've been fused with Gosling's What?
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Post by stephen on Mar 6, 2018 17:20:42 GMT
Messy and unnecessarily flashy. Bale is pretty fucking bad in it, too. His character should've been fused with Gosling's. It feels like an extraordinarily rough draft, and I hate McKay's direction. >His character should've been fused with Gosling's What? They served the same basic purpose in the film: explaining the housing bubble to the audience and to the characters. And Bale's character is relegated away from the action for most of the movie. Merging Burry and Vennett's characters puts that particular viewpoint/plotline in the thick of the story.
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Post by bob-coppola on Mar 6, 2018 17:26:14 GMT
I only watched it once back when it came out, but I loved it. The cameos are great, but the weak link in the cast has got to be Carrell.
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Post by The-Havok on Mar 6, 2018 17:32:37 GMT
>His character should've been fused with Gosling's What? They served the same basic purpose in the film: explaining the housing bubble to the audience and to the characters. And Bale's character is relegated away from the action for most of the movie. Merging Burry and Vennett's characters puts that particular viewpoint/plotline in the thick of the story. Lol no. Mike Burry was perceived as an aspie loony who had no idea what he was on about and therefore his investors had him nearly shut his fund down. Lipmann was just a trader who wanted to cash in it and despite being right, he didn’t care for integrity as Burry did. He just wanted everyone to look at the bubble as real for the sake of opportunity. They’re also two different perspectives. One is an outsider. The other one is a reject bullish VPs and mortgage investors were against
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Post by stephen on Mar 6, 2018 17:42:01 GMT
They served the same basic purpose in the film: explaining the housing bubble to the audience and to the characters. And Bale's character is relegated away from the action for most of the movie. Merging Burry and Vennett's characters puts that particular viewpoint/plotline in the thick of the story. Lol no. Mike Burry was perceived as an aspie loony who had no idea what he was on about and therefore his investors had him nearly shut his fund down. Lipmann was just a trader who wanted to cash in it and despite being right, he didn’t care for integrity as Burry did. He just wanted everyone to look at the bubble as real for the sake of opportunity. They’re also two different perspectives. One is an outsider. The other one is a reject bullish VPs and mortgage investors were against The problem that The Big Short has is that it is bloated and needs sufficient pruning/condensing of characters and storylines. So while Burry and Lippmann were real men with different outlooks on the situation, with one looking at it in simple numerical certainties and the other looking at it as a golden opportunity, they also bring more or less serve the same basic purpose within McKay's film: namely, sparking the rush that gets Baum (our de facto protagonist) into the game. And Burry largely serves no real purpose to the story after his initial realization. His moral ruminations on what the collapse of the market means are also observed (in a much better way) by Baum and Rickert. The Big Short is overstuffed for a single feature film, and whenever the film switches to Burry's perspective, it stalls, especially as everything he more or less contemplates in the course of the film after the fact are also observed in other characters.
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Mar 6, 2018 17:53:12 GMT
I don’t much care for it. I’m fine with the condescension and sarcasm the film lays on thick, but the overly flashy style and “ironic” excess takes away from the main focus for me. Cast are solid, but Bale is uncharacteristically poor, and honestly superfluous since he doesn’t contribute much (his scenes feel like an afterthought, and if I recall, he doesn’t interact with any of the other cast members).
Between Hustle, Tonya, and this, I really think Scorsese-imitations should just stop.
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Post by getclutch on Mar 7, 2018 4:34:10 GMT
This is a good film though it lacks entertainment especially from a known comedic director.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Mar 7, 2018 4:35:30 GMT
Garbage
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Post by harlequinade on Mar 7, 2018 16:28:48 GMT
Love it, such an entertaining movie. Gosling was hysterical and the soundtrack was FIRE
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Post by AKenjiB on Mar 8, 2018 3:45:33 GMT
I really love it. I think it does good at making complex topics accessible and the humor and drama mixed really well for me. I have no idea why Christian Bale got an Oscar nomination for it though.
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Post by Martin Stett on Mar 8, 2018 4:59:55 GMT
Okay, to be more specific, I really enjoyed watching these characters. I honestly didn't need the celebrity cameos explaining stuff to me, that rubbed the wrong way. But the characters themselves are always enjoyable to watch, and the different moral aspects each brings to the table was interesting to see.
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Who didn't crack a smile at that?
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Post by Brother Fease on Mar 12, 2018 1:57:11 GMT
I absolutely loved it. Out of the three finalist films of 2015 -- Spotlight, The Big Short, and The Revenant -- it's definitely the best. The acting by everybody is great, especially Bale, Carell, and Gosling. The film moves at a great pace, features snappy and hilarious dialog, and a social and political message relevant to today's society. McKay's usage of music, celebrity cameos, and clips of pop culture stars, all serves the film's message about how society admires the ignorant and how we constantly get distracted by irrelevance, hits home pretty well.
The more I watch the film, the more I love it. The Big Short is probably my #3 of 2015. Carol and The Martian are my #1 and #2.
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