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Post by fiosnasiob on Jan 24, 2018 12:11:21 GMT
... (mostly) because of its performance(s) ? What movies are still talked about today because of its performance(s) more than anything else ? Especially movies not seen as great like say, Raging Bull. Of course people will always talk about the iconic De Niro performance and new generations will be extremely curious to see that much lauded performance that everyone talk about but Raging Bull is also a masterpiece for many others reason, directed by a master at the top of his game. I'm more talking about movie like Sophie's Choice, a fine but flawed film that got a couple of oscar nods but if the movie is still remembered today it's largely due to Streep's performance, people will watch that movie just for her and it will be talked about for a long time just because of her. What others examples do you have like this one ? Movies that are at least 20 years old, we probably have few recent movies like Blue Jasmine who will probably be seen as a second tier Woody Allen film but Blanchett's performance will keep the movie on the surface for the decades to come, imho. Of course, if Woody Allen's oeuvre will still be available for the generations to come, we are not sure about it yet..
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 24, 2018 12:27:29 GMT
Very good topic - in a way there's those actors who transcend film - not even in how good they are (though that's part of it too of course) but their cool factor or iconic status and how that is either evoked or challenged.
One I would throw out here is In A Lonely Place - it will always be watched because it's Bogart, but so many things about it lend it to be appreciated as time goes by (pun intended):
A different role for him - an intellectual really, a writer, seemingly more modern but tied to film noir, also has the Hollywood angle which add a timelessness to it, and it has certain modern themes too interwoven in it - regarding male rage say or abuse.
It lends itself to being re-watched and appreciated I think more because it's him than the actual "greatness" of the film - it's more of an interesting film, certainly good but raised because it's Bogie who is the weird choice and weirdly perfect choice.
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Post by FrancescoAbides on Jan 24, 2018 12:38:30 GMT
There Will Be Blood will stand the test of time for having the greatest performance of all-time, but also for being an amazing film, brilliantly directed, shot and written.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jan 24, 2018 13:11:30 GMT
The majority of Socrsese's films , THE RED SHOES , THE PRINCESS BRIDE and THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION just to name a few.
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Post by fiosnasiob on Jan 24, 2018 13:28:04 GMT
I agree that DDL's performance has a lot to do with the movie's success and overall impact but I still think that with a lesser, less unique and transformative performance from...Liam Neesson, the movie would still have been successful and ended among the important american films of the 00's, because like Raging Bull, there are many others elements of the movie that work so well. But I agree DDL's performance is truly impactful, important and give to the movie a its special vibes. I think that My Left foot would fit the case much more than TWBB.
I'm adding 2 films that come to mind, Klute and To Die For. If these 2 movies are still relevant today it's because of their central performances, when I hear about these films, it's because of Fonda's and Kidman's performances.
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Post by stephen on Jan 24, 2018 13:31:55 GMT
The Master. People will view it as Philip Seymour Hoffman's true swan song (a few might hold out for A Most Wanted Man, and I doubt anyone will claim the Hunger Games films) and the film that galvanized Joaquin Phoenix into giving an all-time amazing performance that is so utterly unique and fascinating that nobody could ever truly replicate what he did. Even though it is a film with a strong script and even stronger direction, its acting is the main draw.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Jan 24, 2018 17:00:13 GMT
I like or even love some of these films, but they're mostly talked about for the acting first and foremost:
Rain Man Monster Capote Malcolm X Rebel Without a Cause The Passion of Joan of Arc Dirty Harry Bad Lieutenant
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Post by bob-coppola on Jan 24, 2018 17:29:20 GMT
A Streetcar Named Desire, a fine movie with a great screenplay, but with pacing/directing issues and that doesn't look particularly good. But Leigh and Brandon are all-time best and make this film a must-see for everyone.
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Post by Viced on Jan 24, 2018 17:52:38 GMT
I like or even love some of these films, but they're mostly talked about for the acting first and foremost: Dirty HarryReally?
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Jan 24, 2018 18:43:39 GMT
I like or even love some of these films, but they're mostly talked about for the acting first and foremost: Dirty HarryReally? Only time I ever hear about it is when people do their best Clint Eastwood impression, or as a more general term for a ruthless cop.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 19:15:00 GMT
Nightcrawler. I love it but the story and way it's told isn't anything special. I'm sure many would agree with me that by far the biggest draw of this film is the fantastic lead performance.
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Post by anita on Feb 3, 2018 14:17:27 GMT
Off the top of my head.
Al Pacino in Scent of a Woman Al Pacino in Scarface Dennis Hopper in Blue Velvet Joaquim Phoenix in The Master Leonardo Dicaprio in The Basketball Diaries Leonardo Dicaprio in What's Eating Gilbert Grape River Phoenix in My Own Private Idaho Amy Adams in Enchanted Laurence Olivier in Wuthering Heights Oscar Isaac in Inside Llewyn Davis Jeff Bridges in The Big Lebowski Humphrey Bogart in Casablanca Benicio Del Toro in Traffic Jack Nicholson in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest William Dafoe in Platoon Dustin Hoffmann in Rain Man Dustin Hoffmann in Lennie Christoph Waltz in Inglorious Basterds Liam Neeson in The Schindler's List
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Post by tastytomatoes on Feb 16, 2018 15:47:10 GMT
Off the top of my head. Christoph Waltz in Inglorious Basterds Liam Neeson in The Schindler's List Christoph Waltz's character is so embedded into the story that I don't see Ingluorious Basterds being remembered only by his portrayal (add to the fact that it lauds Brad Pitt as Aldo Raine and is Tarantino's best following Pulp Fiction). Schindler's list - again a to-be classic by itself. The best holocaust movie imo and I don't see Liam's performance being singled out like Anthony Hopkins in Silence of the Lambs.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Feb 16, 2018 16:00:15 GMT
Get Out. After all, it has the best ensemble of 2017.
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