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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Jan 4, 2018 4:52:51 GMT
I honestly don't get the point for Harris to tweet out about this. If it's such a small sample size, then it's essentially useless and all he's doing is giving air to these opinions and giving them life.
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Post by sterlingarcher86 on Jan 4, 2018 5:04:21 GMT
Kind of looks like he asked 2 people. This is like basing your predictions on those anonymous ballots.
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Post by stephen on Jan 4, 2018 5:11:42 GMT
I think that there is certainly something to be said that the Academy does seem to marginalize certain films as being representative of a certain group/demographic, and that once they recognize a film about those people or that topic, they feel that they have done their duty in recognizing it and move on to something else. While it is harmful to pigeonhole something simply as "the black movie" or "the gay movie", it is worth noting that it might be hard for the same voting body to want to recognize, say, two coming-of-age films with a gay protagonist in consecutive years. It doesn't make it right by any means, but while the Academy's tastes can be predictable, they do tend to swing away from the previous winner's mold more often than not, at least in the short term. (Note: This does not apply if your movie is about Hollywood in some way.)
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Post by Schiggy on Jan 4, 2018 5:29:09 GMT
They probably don't want to give up two best picture slots to gays and blacks. Now they have to choose one over the other, a la Sophie's Choice. I wouldn't be surprised if in this cut of the movie, Meryl Streep says, "I just want my freedom back!" and runs away, leaving both her kids to die, while the audience gives a standing ovation at her brave decision to not have children...anymore.
It was so much easier last year when they overlapped. If only Moonlight was about lesbians, that way a female-led film could have won best picture and they could be rightfully ignored this year, too!
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Jan 4, 2018 5:32:43 GMT
Since when have these *ever* been a good indication of how well the voters like? Year in, year out, we get these reports that some films are and aren’t popular, and year in, year out, those films do the inverse of what’s being reported.
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Post by doodle on Jan 4, 2018 7:14:33 GMT
Dunkirk rises  Who? |
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Post by doodle on Jan 4, 2018 8:11:24 GMT
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Post by pessimusreincarnated on Jan 4, 2018 15:11:49 GMT
CMBYN looking like it could get Carol'd. I wonder if we only get like 7 BP noms this year-
Dunkirk
Get Out
Lady Bird
Mudbound
The Post
The Shape of Water
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jan 4, 2018 15:12:53 GMT
Keep your shirt on ! They'll still receive multiple nominations !
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Post by mhynson27 on Jan 4, 2018 15:14:00 GMT
CMBYN looking like it could get Carol'd. I wonder if we only get like 7 BP noms this year- Dunkirk Get Out Lady Bird Mudbound The Post The Shape of Water Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri Mudbound is lucky if it's in the Top 10 atm. |
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Post by pessimusreincarnated on Jan 4, 2018 15:20:31 GMT
CMBYN looking like it could get Carol'd. I wonder if we only get like 7 BP noms this year- Dunkirk Get Out Lady Bird Mudbound The Post The Shape of Water Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri Mudbound is lucky if it's in the Top 10 atm. It's still doing pretty well in the precursors, and most major predictors still have it as a "serious threat" at getting in. It's definitely hanging on by a thread, but I'd still predict it over the likes of The Florida Project and Darkest Hour right now. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 4, 2018 18:13:13 GMT
I think some of the wording we use is kind of..........badly chosen and misleading.
1. Why is this the two "worst" things he's heard? Like is that a worse thing than Lucky being totally forgotten - like they won't even see it? I'd say "nobody mentioning Lucky" is worse, but maybe that's just me.....
2. CMBYN won't get "Carol'd" it's its own thing - I don't think the films are that much alike or have the same narrative in the Oscar discussion at all. It's insulting to it really to link them like that actually. I know that's not how we're throwing it around here, it's just a shorthand so it's not a big deal to do that but I just felt the need to mention that not everybody loved Carol.......and that's just on cinematic terms too.
3. Get Out getting a BP nod would be a shock in general given a couple of great (imo better, recent) horror films (The Witch, It Follows) that had no shot for a BP nod. The genre often gets passed over (horror-comedy-satire even more actually), and that's part of what it is too - it's not all about being woke or its racial component. If Get Out gets a BP nod it's huge and it's huge because of genre that's always left out.
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Post by alexanderblanchett on Jan 6, 2018 22:11:37 GMT
Glad for Get Out which is the most overrated film of the year, sad for Call Me By Your Name
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Post by countjohn on Jan 6, 2018 23:30:08 GMT
Haven't been following the race too much this year but I've never thought Get Out had much of a shot at BP. Horror movies are by far the Academy's least favorite genre. Silence of the Lambs won, The Exorcist, The Sixth Sense, and maybe Jaws (if it counts) got nominated. That's it for horror movies and BP. Get Out isn't as good/acclaimed as SotL, and isn't nearly the cultural phenomenon that the other three were.
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Post by doodle on Jan 6, 2018 23:48:29 GMT
Haven't been following the race too much this year but I've never thought Get Out had much of a shot at BP. Horror movies are by far the Academy's least favorite genre. Silence of the Lambs won, The Exorcist, The Sixth Sense, and maybe Jaws (if it counts) got nominated. That's it for horror movies and BP. Get Out isn't as good/acclaimed as SotL, and isn't nearly the cultural phenomenon that the other three were. Well apparently critics are calling it the "next Psycho" and Jordan Peele the new Alfred Hitchcock |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 23:58:28 GMT
Well apparently critics are calling it the "next Psycho" and Jordan Peele the new Alfred Hitchcock What the fuck  |
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Post by countjohn on Jan 7, 2018 0:52:12 GMT
Haven't been following the race too much this year but I've never thought Get Out had much of a shot at BP. Horror movies are by far the Academy's least favorite genre. Silence of the Lambs won, The Exorcist, The Sixth Sense, and maybe Jaws (if it counts) got nominated. That's it for horror movies and BP. Get Out isn't as good/acclaimed as SotL, and isn't nearly the cultural phenomenon that the other three were. Well apparently critics are calling it the "next Psycho" and Jordan Peele the new Alfred Hitchcock Psycho didn't get nominated either, though. They really don't like horror movies. |
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