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Post by mrimpossible on Dec 13, 2017 22:50:28 GMT
coming from someone who has been a Villeneuve fan for several years and enjoyed Blade Runner 2049 quite a bit, I can confirm it is NOT a masterpiece Stopped reading when I saw your avatar. Ben Shapiro really? |
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Post by Lubezki on Dec 13, 2017 23:07:45 GMT
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Post by mrimpossible on Dec 13, 2017 23:12:50 GMT
Stopped reading when I saw your avatar. Ben Shapiro really? he's a bright guy, at least in comparison to a lot of the big right wingers You know just cause he talks fast it doesn’t mean he’s smart. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 23:13:51 GMT
he's a bright guy, at least in comparison to a lot of the big right wingers You know just cause he talks fast it doesn’t mean he’s smart. He went to Harvard Law School, that must count for something |
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Post by mrimpossible on Dec 13, 2017 23:26:23 GMT
You know just cause he talks fast it doesn’t mean he’s smart. He went to Harvard Law School, that must count for something So did Bush jr. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 23:36:39 GMT
He went to Harvard Law School, that must count for something So did Bush jr. Bush's dad was US senator when he went to Harvard, I don't think he would be easy to reject. And I don't think he's stupid. Shapiro graduated from High School at 16, went to Harvard, and made a name for himself on his own merit. That takes a certain amount of intellect, even if you disagree with his politics. |
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Post by eliuson on Dec 14, 2017 0:18:10 GMT
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Dec 14, 2017 1:37:16 GMT
There are far more mediocre films getting circlejerked by awards groups... pretty sure if you can handle that, then you can handle a few people on a message board, I wasn't singularly implying that this board, or maybe some awards shows, are the only places wherein people shower it with unwarranted accolades; the praise extends beyond here to the vast majority of film circles, so it's obviously going to get a tad grating to hear it be called " the best science-fiction film of all time" or " better than Scott's original" on frequent occasion. I can see what you're saying/where you might be coming from, but I've just seen far more hyperbole for other films this year to the point where 2049 is pale in comparison. |
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Dec 14, 2017 1:40:08 GMT
The only movie I've seen more than once this year is Wind River, which while is a **** movie and one of my favorites of the year, still wouldn't be deemed a masterpiece in my eyes. With a more skilled and experienced directing, that movie would have been a masterpiece. The writing and acting are masterful, simply one of the year's best Yeah, I can only imagine what could have been done with say Villanueve (since he took Sheridan's weakest script so far an elevated it immensely) at the helm for what I think is Sheridan's best script. Still, it's a damn fine first for him behind the camera. Hopefully he'll just get better and better. Side note: very bummed that the script and Renner were left in the dust this awards season. |
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Post by stephen on Dec 14, 2017 1:43:37 GMT
With a more skilled and experienced directing, that movie would have been a masterpiece. The writing and acting are masterful, simply one of the year's best Yeah, I can only imagine what could have been done with say Villanueve (since he took Sheridan's weakest script so far an elevated it immensely) at the helm for what I think is Sheridan's best script. Still, it's a damn fine first for him behind the camera. Hopefully he'll just get better and better. Side note: very bummed that the script and Renner were left in the dust this awards season. I still maintain that while Renner is one of the best things about the film and wouldn't be undeserving of an Oscar nod, his casting is one of the weak points of the film. It demanded a native actor, as I think it would've lent a lot of credibility to the themes of the film and wouldn't have had the white savior aspect of it clouding it. You don't have to change a thing about the dialogue or character beyond replacing Renner with someone like Zahn McClarnon. |
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Dec 14, 2017 1:45:57 GMT
Yeah, I can only imagine what could have been done with say Villanueve (since he took Sheridan's weakest script so far an elevated it immensely) at the helm for what I think is Sheridan's best script. Still, it's a damn fine first for him behind the camera. Hopefully he'll just get better and better. Side note: very bummed that the script and Renner were left in the dust this awards season. I still maintain that while Renner is one of the best things about the film and wouldn't be undeserving of an Oscar nod, his casting is one of the weak points of the film. It demanded a native actor, as I think it would've lent a lot of credibility to the themes of the film and wouldn't have had the white savior aspect of it clouding it. You don't have to change a thing about the dialogue or character beyond replacing Renner with someone like Zahn McClarnon. That definitely would have been pretty awesome, but I think we all know that he needed a name actor to probably get it made. |
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Post by stephen on Dec 14, 2017 1:47:27 GMT
I still maintain that while Renner is one of the best things about the film and wouldn't be undeserving of an Oscar nod, his casting is one of the weak points of the film. It demanded a native actor, as I think it would've lent a lot of credibility to the themes of the film and wouldn't have had the white savior aspect of it clouding it. You don't have to change a thing about the dialogue or character beyond replacing Renner with someone like Zahn McClarnon. That definitely would have been pretty awesome, but I think we all know that he needed a name actor to probably get it made. Did he, though? It was made fairly cheaply ($11 million budget) and as much as I love Jeremy Renner, he ain't exactly a "name." |
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Post by FrancescoAbides on Dec 14, 2017 1:47:43 GMT
With a more skilled and experienced directing, that movie would have been a masterpiece. The writing and acting are masterful, simply one of the year's best Yeah, I can only imagine what could have been done with say Villanueve (since he took Sheridan's weakest script so far an elevated it immensely) at the helm for what I think is Sheridan's best script. Still, it's a damn fine first for him behind the camera. Hopefully he'll just get better and better. Side note: very bummed that the script and Renner were left in the dust this awards season. Villeneuve would have been perfect, actually my first choice, or someone like Kathryn Bigelow. But still, props to Sheridan for doing solid work on his debut. As for Renner and the script being constantly ignored this awards season: 'The world is not fair', that's all I can say |
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Dec 14, 2017 1:56:35 GMT
That definitely would have been pretty awesome, but I think we all know that he needed a name actor to probably get it made. Did he, though? It was made fairly cheaply ($11 million budget) and as much as I love Jeremy Renner, he ain't exactly a "name." I think he's enough of a name that they'd fund it. |
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Post by Feesy on Dec 14, 2017 2:37:37 GMT
Blade Runner 2049 is closest to me. Couldn’t give a fuck less what people think, I thought it was magnificent.
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Post by themoviesinner on Dec 14, 2017 8:23:14 GMT
I haven't seen anything from this year that I'd consider a masterpiece so far, but I have watched several films that I thought were pretty great. Detroit, Dunkirk, The Last Note and Bad Genius are my favorites so far.
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Post by Miles Morales on Dec 14, 2017 9:28:20 GMT
I wouldn't quite say that they are masterpieces, but I thought Coco, A Ghost Story, Dunkirk and Newton were magnificent.
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Post by jimmalone on Dec 14, 2017 9:55:40 GMT
Blade Runner 2049 Call Me By Your Name Phantom Thread Do you consider any films this year so far a masterpiece? If so which movies? Maybe Dunkirk and Blade Runner 2049. That would already be two more than in whole 2016, despite I've only seen a handful of movies this year so far. But I still have to see them a second time before I can be sure. |
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Post by jakesully on Dec 14, 2017 13:51:26 GMT
The only movie I've seen more than once this year is Wind River, which while is a **** movie and one of my favorites of the year, still wouldn't be deemed a masterpiece in my eyes. same here. I saw it twice in theaters . Its not quite a masterpiece but damn is it so good! Renner was so badass in it and its a shame he won't get any award noms this year ....oh well. |
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Dec 14, 2017 14:11:20 GMT
CALL ME BY YOUR NAME
GET OUT
(if TV shows count) BIG LITTLE LIES
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Post by Kings_Requiem on Dec 14, 2017 15:47:13 GMT
Thelma
Might even be the best film of the decade for me.
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Post by Pavan on Dec 14, 2017 16:56:48 GMT
Not a single one. I loved Dunkirk and Blade Runner 2049 but i wouldn't call them masterpieces.
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Post by Film Socialism on Dec 14, 2017 17:09:50 GMT
Bush's dad was US senator when he went to Harvard, I don't think he would be easy to reject. And I don't think he's stupid. Shapiro graduated from High School at 16, went to Harvard, and made a name for himself on his own merit. That takes a certain amount of intellect, even if you disagree with his politics. let this meme die static.currentaffairs.org/2017/12/the-cool-kids-philosopher |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2017 17:19:38 GMT
Bush's dad was US senator when he went to Harvard, I don't think he would be easy to reject. And I don't think he's stupid. Shapiro graduated from High School at 16, went to Harvard, and made a name for himself on his own merit. That takes a certain amount of intellect, even if you disagree with his politics. let this meme die static.currentaffairs.org/2017/12/the-cool-kids-philosopherThat article doesn't address any of the reasons I mentioned for him being smart. I don't LOVE Shapiro, and I often disagree with him, but I do think he's smart, consistent, and entertaining to listen to. Far better than most American political commenters from the left and right (and that's honestly not saying much). |
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Post by Film Socialism on Dec 14, 2017 17:28:50 GMT
That article doesn't address any of the reasons I mentioned for him being smart. I don't LOVE Shapiro, and I often disagree with him, but I do think he's smart, consistent, and entertaining to listen to. Far better than most American political commenters from the left and right (and that's honestly not saying much). i graduated hs a couple months out from 16 and am on academic scholarship to a top math school and would hope nobody uses this to say im good at what i do because i fuckin suck at it lmao |
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