Post by Ryan_MYeah on Dec 7, 2017 0:27:41 GMT
The short’s getting pulled after tomorrow, so I wanted to discuss it, especially after taking my niece to see Coco last night. Because this girl is a huge lover of Frozen and Olaf, and I figured she’d love it where I didn’t the first time. Funnily enough, she had a similar reaction. She adored Coco, but even she didn’t take to it, and was getting impatient waiting for Coco.
So as if all the complaints about it weren’t enough, this further cemented to me just what a pointless inclusion it was. But I also kind of wondered: was it really because the short itself was so bad?
One thing’s for sure, is that it was a terrible marketing move. Maybe not financially, but out of pure principle. Disregarding the intrusiveness of Disney’s brand name shoehorning itself before Pixar’s (of which people have already criticized very well), I know we’ve become so accustomed to shorts before Pixar’s films that they feel incomplete without them, but they’ve always worked well because of a manageable five to seven minute length, so even if they weren’t good, they didn’t actually take anything away from the experience. Even the previous Frozen Fever before Cinderella would have been more forgivable, but by adding what feels like and should have stayed a TV special, it’s such a momentum killer leading into the main attraction, because now it’ll be forty minutes before it even starts.
But worst of all, it’s such an uncharacteristic lack of confidence in Pixar and the film. Like they were so worried this would repeat The Good Dinosaur’s failure, they needed to give viewers an added incentive to go see it. The difference is that The Good Dinosaur was a disappointment that everybody recognized was a disappointment. On the other hand, I haven’t seen anyone who didn’t like Coco, even people who weren’t looking forward to it, so it’s clear the film can stand just fine on its own, especially when it can dwarf the Justice League.
But seeing it again, I tried to judge it not as a warm-up, but if it were a separate entity, like the TV Special it was intended to be (and I’d be shocked if this doesn’t become an annual tradition for ABC). Just because something is commercial doesn’t mean it’s without merit, but while Frozen Fever was less blatant about it, this totally felt like a cash grab wearing the good will of Frozen thin. Thankfully Olaf didn’t fall into Mater territory, even if he does get mildly annoying, and there’s still a ton of sweetness and fun to be had. That said, the songs are very hit and miss. “Ring In the Season” and “That Time of Year” are charming earworms, but “When We’re Together” is such a generic feel-good tune, although none of them are to the caliber of the songs the Lopezes wrote, or even Coco’s “Remember Me.” Also, why do they keep giving Johnathan Groff the short stick? But for what it is, it’s harmless and fun, and a TV format would and will make it perfectly digestible seasonal fare.
So what say you anyone who also saw Coco?
So as if all the complaints about it weren’t enough, this further cemented to me just what a pointless inclusion it was. But I also kind of wondered: was it really because the short itself was so bad?
One thing’s for sure, is that it was a terrible marketing move. Maybe not financially, but out of pure principle. Disregarding the intrusiveness of Disney’s brand name shoehorning itself before Pixar’s (of which people have already criticized very well), I know we’ve become so accustomed to shorts before Pixar’s films that they feel incomplete without them, but they’ve always worked well because of a manageable five to seven minute length, so even if they weren’t good, they didn’t actually take anything away from the experience. Even the previous Frozen Fever before Cinderella would have been more forgivable, but by adding what feels like and should have stayed a TV special, it’s such a momentum killer leading into the main attraction, because now it’ll be forty minutes before it even starts.
But worst of all, it’s such an uncharacteristic lack of confidence in Pixar and the film. Like they were so worried this would repeat The Good Dinosaur’s failure, they needed to give viewers an added incentive to go see it. The difference is that The Good Dinosaur was a disappointment that everybody recognized was a disappointment. On the other hand, I haven’t seen anyone who didn’t like Coco, even people who weren’t looking forward to it, so it’s clear the film can stand just fine on its own, especially when it can dwarf the Justice League.
But seeing it again, I tried to judge it not as a warm-up, but if it were a separate entity, like the TV Special it was intended to be (and I’d be shocked if this doesn’t become an annual tradition for ABC). Just because something is commercial doesn’t mean it’s without merit, but while Frozen Fever was less blatant about it, this totally felt like a cash grab wearing the good will of Frozen thin. Thankfully Olaf didn’t fall into Mater territory, even if he does get mildly annoying, and there’s still a ton of sweetness and fun to be had. That said, the songs are very hit and miss. “Ring In the Season” and “That Time of Year” are charming earworms, but “When We’re Together” is such a generic feel-good tune, although none of them are to the caliber of the songs the Lopezes wrote, or even Coco’s “Remember Me.” Also, why do they keep giving Johnathan Groff the short stick? But for what it is, it’s harmless and fun, and a TV format would and will make it perfectly digestible seasonal fare.
So what say you anyone who also saw Coco?