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Post by Billy_Costigan on Nov 21, 2017 18:22:46 GMT
www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/independent-spirit-award-nominations-full-list-2017-1057823Best FeatureCall Me by Your Name The Florida Project Get Out Lady Bird The Rider Best First Feature
Columbus Ingrid Goes West Menashe Oh Lucy! Patti Cake$ Best DirectorSean Baker - The Florida Project Jonas Carpignano - A Ciambra Luca Guadagnino - Call Me by Your Name Jordan Peele - Get Out Benny Safdie, Josh Safdie - Good Time Chloé Zhao - The Rider Best Female LeadSalma Hayek - Beatriz at Dinner Frances McDormand - Three Billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri Margot Robbie - I, Tonya Saoirse Ronan - Lady Bird Shinobu Terajima - Oh Lucy! Regina Williams - Life and nothing more Best Male LeadTimothée Chalamet - Call Me by Your Name Harris Dickinson - Beach Rats James Franco - The Disaster Artist Daniel Kaluuya - Get Out Robert Pattinson - Good Time Best Supporting FemaleHolly Hunter - The Big Sick Allison Janney - I, Tonya Laurie Metcalf - Lady Bird Lois Smith - Marjorie Prime Taliah Lennice Webster - Good Time
Best Supporting MaleNnamdi Asomugha - Crown Heights Armie Hammer - Call Me by Your Name Barry Keoghan - The Killing of a Sacred Deer Sam Rockwell - Three Billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri Benny Safdie - Good Time
Best ScreenplayGreta Gerwig - Lady Bird Azazel Jacobs - The Lovers Martin McDonagh - Three Billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri Jordan Peele - Get Out Mike White - Beatriz at Dinner
Best EditingRonald Bronstein,Benny Safdie - Good Time Walter Fasano - Call Me by Your Name Alex O'Flinn - The Rider Gregory Plotkin - Get Out Tatiana S. Riegel - I, Tonya
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Post by morton on Nov 21, 2017 18:48:17 GMT
I know these don't mean a whole lot in terms of trying to predict Oscar nominations from them because they have some weird snubs and additions; although, the winners are usually whoever wins the Oscar, if they're nominated here.
With that being said, I'm surprised by some of the omissions. Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri missing out on Picture and Director seems like sort of a big deal considering its been scooping up audience prizes from all over, and right now is probably the frontrunner to win Best Picture at the Oscars. The Shape of Water missing out altogether is shocking!?! Again probably doesn't mean much, but if it starts underperforming at other awards, I guess we can point to Spirits and Gotham nominations has being the first signs that it was going to happen.
A little bit surprised by Willem Dafoe missing because they obviously really liked The Florida Project, but I don't think it's a big deal just one of those odd things that happens sometimes at these awards. Also a bit surprised that Armie Hammer got in over Michael Stuhlbarg, but I can see them both getting Oscar nominations.
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Post by stephen on Nov 21, 2017 18:48:52 GMT
No Harry Dean Stanton? To hell with this group.
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Post by stephen on Nov 21, 2017 18:49:43 GMT
Not that they matter in the Oscar race but here are some interesting snubs: - "Three Billboards" for Best Feature - Gerwig for Director - Willem Dafoe and Michael Stuhlbarg both got snubbed in Supporting category while Armie Hammer scored a nom. - Not even a single nomination for "Shape of Water" - "Mudbound" won an Altman award but zero nomination in non-acting competitive categories. - "Good Time" got nominated in so many categories yet missed Best Feature. I feel like Altman winners are automatically made ineligible for individual acting prizes, but I may be wrong. |
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Post by thomasjerome on Nov 21, 2017 18:54:08 GMT
Not that they matter in the Oscar race but here are some interesting snubs: - "Three Billboards" for Best Feature - Gerwig for Director - Willem Dafoe and Michael Stuhlbarg both got snubbed in Supporting category while Armie Hammer scored a nom. - Not even a single nomination for "Shape of Water" - "Mudbound" won an Altman award but zero nomination in non-acting competitive categories. - "Good Time" got nominated in so many categories yet missed Best Feature. I feel like Altman winners are automatically made ineligible for individual acting prizes, but I may be wrong. (I accidentally removed my post, anyway..) I know, that's why I said "non-acting" as it could score a Director or Screenplay nomination or Best Feature, yet they just skipped it. |
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Post by thomasjerome on Nov 21, 2017 18:56:26 GMT
Again it's not stopping him from winning the Oscar of course but James Ivory snub is little surprising as well.
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Post by Sharbs on Nov 21, 2017 19:10:26 GMT
I hate stats and bringing them up. But, I truly feel like stirring the pot. The last 4 and 5 of the last 6 winners of this has gone on to win the BP at Oscars,
Three Billboards is dead
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Post by FrancescoAbides on Nov 21, 2017 19:11:35 GMT
Some surprising snubs. But yes McDonagh (screenplay), McDormand and Rockwell!!!
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Post by morton on Nov 21, 2017 19:21:46 GMT
I hate stats and bringing them up. But, I truly feel like stirring the pot. The last 4 and 5 of the last 6 winners of this has gone on to win the BP at Oscars, Three Billboards is dead Yes, comparing their Wiki pages from 2010 on, I see that the only time they missed was in 2010 and 2012, but that's only because The King's Speech and Argo weren't nominated there. It could mean that a statistic is about to be broken, or Call Me By Your Name, Get Out, or Lady Bird have a good chance to actually win Best Picture. Or that this leaves the door open for The Post or Dunkirk to win now. I would go with theory #3. The Post is working against a December release, but it's got the narrative. Dunkirk might have to work against a lot of stats like possibly no SAG Ensemble nomination or screenwriting nomination, but it could win a bunch of tech awards plus Best Director. They're both flawed, but TBOEM doesn't seem like an exceptionally strong frontrunner. It does have the narrative, but The Post will have a similar perhaps better narrative. |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Nov 21, 2017 19:39:38 GMT
It's becoming more and more annoying how overrated Get Out is. I'm coming to grips with the fact that it's probably going to be a major player all season and that's a damn shame.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Nov 21, 2017 19:44:45 GMT
These awards always baffle me.
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Post by alexanderblanchett on Nov 21, 2017 20:25:12 GMT
Michael Stuhlbarg was miserably snubbed but I loved the rest of the CMBYN love…. especially Chalemet.
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Post by DeepArcher on Nov 21, 2017 20:30:08 GMT
Hyped for Keoghan, The Florida Project love, Pattinson, Safdie, and of course Metcalf. It definitely feels like Three Billboards under-performed a bit.
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Post by Viced on Nov 21, 2017 21:41:47 GMT
Where in the fuck is Willem Dafoe?
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Post by Allenism on Nov 22, 2017 1:51:25 GMT
Greta Gerwig's miss in the director category really cements my impression that they just don't like her.
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Post by bob-coppola on Nov 22, 2017 2:38:41 GMT
I'm upstet but not surprised by the Gerwig snub. They clearly don't like her since they snubbed for Frances Ha despite nominating the film for Best Feature, and the other two times they denied her for undeniable performances in weak years: 2015 for Mistress America and 2016 for 20th Century Women. Which is weird, 'cause she seems like the type of gal the Spirits would embrace fully.
Also, I don't think Three Billboards is getting a bad sign. I just felt like they decided not to award the big Oscar darlings this season, unless in undeniable categories. See, McDormand's category is the only one with 6 spots, which feels weird. I think just like SAG has decided to make statements about racial equality with their choices in their past years, the Spirit must be making a statement of not being an "Oscar predictor".
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2017 2:43:36 GMT
Armie Hammer being pushed Supporting for 'Call Me By Your Name' is giving me Rooney Mara 'Carol'-category fraud déjà vu. The handsome leading man ends up with a nomination, but who loses? Michael Stuhlbarg, the character actor for whom the Supporting category is actually designed.  |
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Post by quetee on Nov 22, 2017 4:49:13 GMT
I know these don't mean a whole lot in terms of trying to predict Oscar nominations from them because they have some weird snubs and additions; although, the winners are usually whoever wins the Oscar, if they're nominated here. With that being said, I'm surprised by some of the omissions. Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri missing out on Picture and Director seems like sort of a big deal considering its been scooping up audience prizes from all over, and right now is probably the frontrunner to win Best Picture at the Oscars. The Shape of Water missing out altogether is shocking!?! Again probably doesn't mean much, but if it starts underperforming at other awards, I guess we can point to Spirits and Gotham nominations has being the first signs that it was going to happen. A little bit surprised by Willem Dafoe missing because they obviously really liked The Florida Project, but I don't think it's a big deal just one of those odd things that happens sometimes at these awards. Also a bit surprised that Armie Hammer got in over Michael Stuhlbarg, but I can see them both getting Oscar nominations. Do we have budget confirmation on Three Billboards? Shape of Water doesn't look like a $20mil dollar movie. |
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Post by stephen on Nov 22, 2017 5:02:38 GMT
I think people are reading way too much into Three Billboards and Dafoe's snubs.
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Post by avnermoriarti on Nov 22, 2017 6:25:47 GMT
Armie Hammer being pushed Supporting for 'Call Me By Your Name' is giving me Rooney Mara 'Carol'-category fraud déjà vu. The handsome leading man ends up with a nomination, but who loses? Michael Stuhlbarg, the character actor for whom the Supporting category is actually designed. For someone like me who finds really annoying category frauds, actually my perception after watching the film is that Hammer is, indeed a supporting character. This is Elio's story, his relationship with his friends, family, Oliver, even with the place as a whole, the movie follows him wherever he goes, and the way Hammer's character is written/treated reinforce that perception to me. And for Stuhlbarg, it really is that speech everyone talks about what makes the difference and gives a different perspective to his character, but I could see his performance not being "enough" to get a nomination. |
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Post by avnermoriarti on Nov 22, 2017 6:29:55 GMT
For the first time in a while it doesn't seem like they want to be the casual version of the oscars, it looks like their very own thing, movies that really have independent wriiten all over it, which is good.
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Post by doodle on Nov 23, 2017 5:04:18 GMT
Armie Hammer being pushed Supporting for 'Call Me By Your Name' is giving me Rooney Mara 'Carol'-category fraud déjà vu. The handsome leading man ends up with a nomination, but who loses? Michael Stuhlbarg, the character actor for whom the Supporting category is actually designed. Armie Hammer is supporting whether you like it or not. |
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Nov 23, 2017 23:32:05 GMT
Yeah, these awards seem important, but they're not THAT big. People are giving them too much credit anymore. Personally I'm more devastated by The Shape of Water snubs, but then again del toro does not make Oscar bait, and I think that's great. Plus I never thought had a chance before the reviews came in. Ah well!
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