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Post by alexanderblanchett on Nov 17, 2017 23:42:44 GMT
A good and extremely well acted film. It is really the netflix film that could make the difference in terms of awards recognition. It is not your typical racism film as it tells another side of it. It is about two young men who would never be in any way friends if it wasnt for one thing they have in common. Both are war veterans and return home with a trauma.
One is the son of a farm aid, the other is the brother of the owner of the farm. But it is not the only story this ensemble piece tells.
The acting is the best reason to see the film. Rob Morgan was the MVP for me. It was a performance that worked way beneath his dialogue. A very deep and moving character and he managed it absolutely realistic. Jason Mitchell was great as well, especially towards the end. He has for sure the battiest role. Garrett Hedlund comes right after with a very controlled and intense turn. He surely is underrated for his acting, I also liked Mary J. Blige who had some great small moments, but after all the buzz I expected something more intense. Much of her performance works through her expressions which were great and real. Carey Mulligan and Jonathan Banks were great as well. Jason Clarke had his moments but was possibly the weakest of the bunch, but that was mostly because of his pale character,
The film was extremely well shot, nicely directed and had a great screenplay. At the beginning it dragged a little bit but it is definitely worth to see and the ending is extremely intense, shocking and memorable. And the final scene has to be one of the most beautiful scenes of the year.
Current nominations for:
Best Actor in a Supporting Role: Rob Morgan
Best Actor in a Supporting Role: Jason Mitchell
Best Actress in a Supporting Role: Mary J. Blige
Best Actress in a Supporting Role: Carey Mulligan
Best Adapted Screenplay
Best Ensemble*
Rating: 8/10
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Post by jakesully on Nov 18, 2017 10:56:12 GMT
Yeah this was quite good (a bit hard to watch due to the depressing subject matter though.) . My favorite characters were played by Jason Mitchell & Garrett Hedlund (Ronsel & Jamie) . Loved their interactions together.
I could see it getting some Oscar noms which would be really cool.
Dee Rees is a director to look out for .
8/10
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Post by stephen on Nov 18, 2017 16:56:18 GMT
I really didn't like it. To quote what I wrote elsewhere on this board, it kinda baffles me how people seem to be riding high on this film, because it is exactly the sort of try-hard Oscar-baity schmaltz that we tend to deride. It is a treacly, manipulative story, with paper-thin caricatures in place of characters. The cinematography is noteworthy (if a bit over-reliant on chiaroscuro) and Jason Mitchell turns in a very capable performance, but beyond that, there’s surprisingly very little worth in this one. And I really don’t get why we keep trying to make Garrett Hedlund happen. Also, Mary J. Blige's character is interesting insomuch as on paper, it's the sort of role that was genetically crafted in a lab to create the super-baitiest supporting mother role imaginable, and yet somehow the part manages to make so little impact in the film that I wonder what people are seeing in her performance to give her so much acclaim.
I dunno, man. I think this is going to be one of those films that everyone lauds and I'm one of the lone detractors.
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Post by cheesecake on Nov 18, 2017 17:07:32 GMT
Watched it last night and found it extremely lacking. Jason Mitchell was really good but couldn’t save it. Unfocused and bogged down with so much unnecessary narration — every single instance where they could show and not tell, they say everything/. From a technical standpoint, it was a very Netflixy Netflix film — looking very polished and generic with some laughable stock sound effects and poor sound design. It was itching to be so character driven and boasting a big ensemble, but it was a swing and a miss when they should have focused on strengthening the characters or picking one of the many subplots to expand on.
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Post by stephen on Nov 18, 2017 17:10:55 GMT
some laughable stock sound effects You mean like this? I hate the Wilhelm scream, I hate stock sound effects in general, and when I heard this one, it really set my teeth on edge. It's really the mark of a lazy sound editor. |
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Post by alexanderblanchett on Nov 18, 2017 22:26:02 GMT
Yeah this was quite good (a bit hard to watch due to the depressing subject matter though.) . My favorite characters were played by Jason Mitchell & Garrett Hedlund (Ronsel & Jamie) . Loved their interactions together. I could see it getting some Oscar noms which would be really cool. Dee Rees is a director to look out for . 8/10 Dee Rees is an interesting director for sure… it won't happen but I would love the first afro american director win to be a woman. |
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Post by alexanderblanchett on Nov 18, 2017 22:30:55 GMT
I really didn't like it. To quote what I wrote elsewhere on this board, it kinda baffles me how people seem to be riding high on this film, because it is exactly the sort of try-hard Oscar-baity schmaltz that we tend to deride. It is a treacly, manipulative story, with paper-thin caricatures in place of characters. The cinematography is noteworthy (if a bit over-reliant on chiaroscuro) and Jason Mitchell turns in a very capable performance, but beyond that, there’s surprisingly very little worth in this one. And I really don’t get why we keep trying to make Garrett Hedlund happen. Also, Mary J. Blige's character is interesting insomuch as on paper, it's the sort of role that was genetically crafted in a lab to create the super-baitiest supporting mother role imaginable, and yet somehow the part manages to make so little impact in the film that I wonder what people are seeing in her performance to give her so much acclaim. I dunno, man. I think this is going to be one of those films that everyone lauds and I'm one of the lone detractors. I liked Hedlund a lot in this. I don't think his performance will turn into any awards but it was a good move for his career. I am more surprised in Blige's strong and constant buzz, yes I have her in my line up but also because my supporting actress is currently super weak. I don't think she will make it at the end of the year… and yes with all the buzz I was kind of underwhelmed. |
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Post by alexanderblanchett on Nov 18, 2017 22:31:49 GMT
Watched it last night and found it extremely lacking. Jason Mitchell was really good but couldn’t save it. Unfocused and bogged down with so much unnecessary narration — every single instance where they could show and not tell, they say everything/. From a technical standpoint, it was a very Netflixy Netflix film — looking very polished and generic with some laughable stock sound effects and poor sound design. It was itching to be so character driven and boasting a big ensemble, but it was a swing and a miss when they should have focused on strengthening the characters or picking one of the many subplots to expand on. Oh yes the narration was really off… I don't know it didn't flow well with the rest of the film that was one of the only thing that TRUELY bothered me… it was also kind of pretentious. |
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Post by anita on Nov 19, 2017 0:13:03 GMT
Agreed. Hedlund and Mitchel were especially great in this phenomenal film. But all the actors are superb in it.
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Post by alexanderblanchett on Nov 19, 2017 12:05:42 GMT
A good and extremely well acted film. It is really the netflix film that could make the difference in terms of awards recognition. It is not your typical racism film as it tells another side of it. It is about two young men who would never be in any way friends if it wasnt for one thing they have in common. Both are war veterans and return home with a trauma. One is the son of a farm aid, the other is the brother of the owner of the farm. But it is not the only story this ensemble piece tells. The acting is the best reason to see the film. Rob Morgan was the MVP for me. It was a performance that worked way beneath his dialogue. A very deep and moving character and he managed it absolutely realistic. Jason Mitchell was great as well, especially towards the end. He has for sure the battiest role. Garrett Hedlund comes right after with a very controlled and intense turn. He surely is underrated for his acting, I also liked Mary J. Blige who had some great small moments, but after all the buzz I expected something more intense. Much of her performance works through her expressions which were great and real. Carey Mulligan and Jonathan Banks were great as well. Jason Clarke had his moments but was possibly the weakest of the bunch, but that was mostly because of his pale character, The film was extremely well shot, nicely directed and had a great screenplay. At the beginning it dragged a little bit but it is definitely worth to see and the ending is extremely intense, shocking and memorable. And the final scene has to be one of the most beautiful scenes of the year. Current nominations for: Best Actor in a Supporting Role: Rob Morgan
Best Actor in a Supporting Role: Jason Mitchell
Best Actress in a Supporting Role: Mary J. Blige
Best Actress in a Supporting Role: Carey Mulligan
Best Adapted Screenplay
Best Ensemble*
Rating: 8/10I hope Mitchell continues to deliver he needed more scenes in Detroit. I think he will have a great career ahead of him . Really loved him in Straight Outta Compton |
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Post by cheesecake on Nov 19, 2017 14:45:05 GMT
I hope Mitchell continues to deliver he needed more scenes in Detroit. I think he will have a great career ahead of him . Really loved him in Straight Outta ComptonFun in Kong: Skull Island, too! One to watch, for sure. |
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Post by alexanderblanchett on Nov 19, 2017 14:53:33 GMT
I think he will have a great career ahead of him . Really loved him in Straight Outta ComptonFun in Kong: Skull Island, too! One to watch, for sure. True he was a true scene stealer there |
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Post by notacrook on Nov 19, 2017 23:33:46 GMT
Yeah, really good stuff. The cast is great across the board, especially Mulligan and Blige, and Rees' directorial style gives it a gritty realism as well as a strong sense of humanity. 8.5/10
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Nov 21, 2017 17:38:51 GMT
I think he will have a great career ahead of him . Really loved him in Straight Outta ComptonFun in Kong: Skull Island, too! One to watch, for sure. Nothing about that dreadful movie was fun. "Large caliber guns and thousands of rounds don't do anything to this monster!" *Larson shoots a flare gun* "OH MY GOD! It's hurt!" *Larson strikes a pose* |
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Post by cheesecake on Nov 21, 2017 22:06:42 GMT
Fun in Kong: Skull Island, too! One to watch, for sure. Nothing about that dreadful movie was fun. "Large caliber guns and thousands of rounds don't do anything to this monster!" *Larson shoots a flare gun* "OH MY GOD! It's hurt!" *Larson strikes a pose*  It's got problems but I had a blast. |
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Post by AKenjiB on Dec 19, 2017 20:39:24 GMT
I really liked it though the second half is definitely better than the first half once they slow down the narration (seems like they were going for a Malick vibe but it felt too expositional) and focused on Jason Mitchell and Garrett Hedlund who had fantastic chemistry. I know this may not be saying much because Hedlund doesn’t exactly have a great track record (this is only his third film to get a fresh rating on Rotten tomatoes) but I thought he was fantastic here and it’s easily his best performance to date. The whole ensemble was quite strong and the film builds up to a powerful ending. Not my favorite movie of the year or anything, but it’s been a few days since I saw the film and it’s still sticking with me.
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Post by jakesully on Dec 19, 2017 23:48:49 GMT
I really dig Hedlund (been a fan of his since seeing his performance in On the Road). He's just had a string of bad luck over last few years with flops . On paper , some of those films looked like they had potential (an Ang Lee film , a Joe Wright film , etc) but they turned out to be utterly disappointing & flopped / panned by critics. I hope he keeps working hard on his craft.
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It's got problems but I had a blast.
