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Post by HELENA MARIA on Oct 6, 2017 18:32:36 GMT
Martn Scorsese said himself that he pretty much considers Casino as "the companion piece to Goodfellas" . Both are excellent gangster films, but I was just wondering which you think is the better movie overall and why ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 18:41:59 GMT
Goodfellas by quite a bit. I like Casino a lot, but it's very flawed.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Oct 6, 2017 18:49:52 GMT
I like Casino, but I much prefer Goodfellas because it's tighter, Scorsese's handling of the tone is much more precise, and it gets more of its smaller scale than Casino does on a grand one. On that last point, I believe Goodfellas makes a more pointed statement towards the audience that says more about American culture on an individual level, while Casino in being so caught up on its more epic scale provides a kind of distance where we are seeing people only as being part of bigger systems and corporations that are easy to critique from that distance. If that makes any sense.
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Post by moonman157 on Oct 6, 2017 18:52:14 GMT
Goodfellas and it ain't even close.
Some of Scorsese's worst tendencies are on full display in Casino. It's a good movie but when the first hour of your movie is spent with near constant narration explaining the mechanics of the plot with barely a single line of dialogue spoken in front of the camera you may have overstretched yourself.
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Post by stephen on Oct 6, 2017 19:13:50 GMT
The sun always rises in the east, tornadoes always zero in on trailer parks, and Casino isn't fit to lick Goodfellas's boots. These are the things I know.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Oct 6, 2017 19:38:59 GMT
I don't see the huge gap in quality between those two as clearly as the others do. But I think Goodfellas is a bit better. Because one reason is I can remember individual scenes better, where Casino I don't necessarily have memorized from start to finish. I have a better handle on Goodfellas.
That Sharon Stone character and her antics are hard to take seriously, and you treat it like comedy. Which is not a bad thing, because comedy is a good thing, but it's clearly a rehash of Karen. And Pesci character... obviously a bit of a rehash too, of himself in Goodfellas; and I don't remember any of the supporting characters in Casino. I will say Ace is a pretty strong character and can contend with some of the best Scorsese has written.
You can argue Casino is too identical to Goodfellas, but then.... Coens, Hitchcock, and Antonioni both re-did formula again and again, so I don't know how much credibility I take to that. You can argue Wolf of Wall Street comes from the same breed as Goodfellas too.
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Post by notacrook on Oct 6, 2017 22:36:21 GMT
Goodfellas is Scorsese's best, and a truly masterful gangster flick.
Casino is overlong and overuses narration to the point of absurdity. It's not bad, but it's not worthy of this comparison.
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Post by tobias on Oct 7, 2017 0:36:52 GMT
Goodfellas, silly.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Oct 7, 2017 15:42:30 GMT
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Oct 9, 2017 13:05:57 GMT
Goodfellas
I quite like Casino, but it always shocks me when anyone prefers it to Goodfellas.
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Post by cheesecake on Oct 9, 2017 15:10:10 GMT
Goodfellas by far.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2017 21:35:50 GMT
Goodfellas by far. Its the ultimate gangster movie. Casino is good, but not in the same league. It also doesn't touch the pace that Goodfellas has.
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Post by jakesully on Oct 9, 2017 23:27:54 GMT
Goodfellas . No question
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Oct 19, 2017 1:52:24 GMT
Big fan of Casino, but it's gotta be Goodfellas.
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Post by Lord_Buscemi on Oct 19, 2017 21:15:01 GMT
Casino, easily.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Oct 29, 2017 21:01:21 GMT
The one that's actually an all-time great: Goodfellas. Casino looks like a second-rate version in comparison. Joe Pesci is once again pure greatness and entertainment, but it lacks the magic of Goodfellas.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Oct 29, 2017 22:51:29 GMT
The one that's actually an all-time great: Goodfellas. Casino looks like a second-rate version in comparison. Joe Pesci is once again pure greatness and entertainment, but it lacks the magic of Goodfellas. Thoughts on Sharon Stone's performance ? Oscar worthy ? |
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Oct 30, 2017 5:30:28 GMT
The one that's actually an all-time great: Goodfellas. Casino looks like a second-rate version in comparison. Joe Pesci is once again pure greatness and entertainment, but it lacks the magic of Goodfellas. Thoughts on Sharon Stone's performance ? Oscar worthy ? Marty gave her a great role, but I'm not a fan of this performance or of Sharon Stone's acting style in general. Not Oscar worthy in any year IMO, but definitely not in a year where we had Elizabeth Shue killing it. |
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