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Post by Sharbs on Sept 20, 2017 14:55:05 GMT
Oscar eligibility? basically U.S. release date world premiere? Release date in it's own country? I've been going with oscar eligibility in the past, but have been thinking about switching to the country's release date. For example Breathe ( Respire) was released in 2014 France, but 2015 USA. And something like Fanny and Alexander which was released in Sweden in 1982, but was up for the 1984 Oscars, so I have a difficult time placing that in 1982. I'm more just curious on how you guys determine dates if you guys are williing  |
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Sept 20, 2017 15:18:12 GMT
Release date in its own country or (because a film may not get a release in its home country for some political or social reason) in one of the top 15 largest film markets.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2017 15:22:21 GMT
US release date - I also determine acting lineups based on Oscar's eligibility rules.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2017 15:32:54 GMT
For older movies: whatever's on IMDb/Letterboxd
For newer movies: Oscar eligibility
It's inconsistent, but I don't really care.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Sept 20, 2017 17:52:24 GMT
Country of origin release date
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Post by flaiky on Sept 20, 2017 18:49:30 GMT
I go quite religiously by IMDb dates. I just think it makes total sense to consider a film as coming from the year it premiered (which will also be its copyright date). In the long run, it's far easier to keep track of and fairer, and it's probably what everyone will end up using, so I just do it from the start. My end-of-year list will exclusively be official 2017 films, even if it means I have less to chose from.
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Post by Film Socialism on Sept 21, 2017 1:27:41 GMT
i already live my life in an anglo-centric way i don't need to make my lineups that way too
(i.e. i just go by imdb/premiere dates)
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Post by stephen on Sept 21, 2017 1:28:22 GMT
First wide release, regardless of country of origin. If paying audiences could see it, it counts.
The Hurt Locker is a 2008 film.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Sept 21, 2017 21:50:48 GMT
theatrical release of its country of origin (or if it's an international co-production, I just go with the first theatrical release of either of the countries). If it's a Mexican film, I go by the Mexican release date. Going by your own country's release date is a system full of inconsistencies and messy, conflicting lineups. Now, I used to go by first release date but that doesn't work either, because if you go by first theatrical release, The Hurt Locker is a 2008 movie because it was released in one country in 2008 (Italy, and it's not an Italian film). There's no reason to consider it a 2008 release just because it was first released in 2008 because it bears no relevancy to Italy. And if you go by US release date (even worse), Army of Shadows is a 2006 film. Let that sink in and ask how the hell that makes sense. Going by first release is problematic, going by your own country's release date is ridiculous. |
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Post by vinnyt on Sept 21, 2017 23:14:12 GMT
I go by US release if it's within a year or two of the original countries release.
My main example being that Battle Royale is my favorite film of 2000 and I was showing that to people in high school back in like 05/06.
Official US release? 2011. Yeah no.
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Post by no on Sept 23, 2017 18:19:24 GMT
Oscar eligibility? basically U.S. release date world premiere? Release date in it's own country? I've been going with oscar eligibility in the past, but have been thinking about switching to the country's release date. For example Breathe ( Respire) was released in 2014 France, but 2015 USA. And something like Fanny and Alexander which was released in Sweden in 1982, but was up for the 1984 Oscars, so I have a difficult time placing that in 1982. I'm more just curious on how you guys determine dates if you guys are williing First time it is released to public even if that means festivals well before wide release. |
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Post by bob-coppola on Sept 24, 2017 0:49:14 GMT
For older movies, like someone said above, I go with what's on IMDB/Letterboxd. With current movies, I go by when it was on theathers on either Brazil (where I live) or the US. Clouds of Sils Maria opened here on 2014, so I have it as a 2014 release instead of 2015 (despite most people having it otherwise). But most Oscar-friendly movies only open here a few months after their US debuts, usually on february/march if it got an october-december date on North America, so I put them under their american dates.
If it was only on festivals in a year, and opened on theaters the next, I go by the latter date.
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Post by Schiggy on Sept 24, 2017 7:03:10 GMT
US release date, unless it's already been out internationally for at least a year, then I find it hard to justify a year-late placement.
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Post by scorpio68 on Sept 28, 2017 7:32:11 GMT
Pretty much I will refer to IMDB to finally decide, but I generally go by original release date in home country - hence, for instance, Cries and Whispers is 1972 for its Swedish release time, rather than the 1973 American release date
I think IMDB has Haggis' "Crash" as a 2004 release, as it apparently was shown at one film festival that year, as I recall, but I don't factor it that way and instead view it as a 2005 movie, according to its actual geniune theatrical USA release
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Sept 28, 2017 19:26:49 GMT
OSCARS = US RELEASE DATE
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Post by ingmarhepburn on Sept 28, 2017 21:02:37 GMT
I always go by IMDb dates.
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