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Post by JangoB on Sept 14, 2017 14:11:51 GMT
Looks gooooood.
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Post by Martin Stett on Sept 14, 2017 16:42:15 GMT
Michael Shannon looks like he's just doing Premium Rush all over again. I am more than fine with that.  |
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Post by notacrook on Sept 14, 2017 18:08:43 GMT
Not a great trailer, but it looks like it could be a great movie. At any rate, I'll be rooting for Sally Hawkins throughout awards season.
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Post by CookiesNCream on Sept 14, 2017 22:16:15 GMT
Not a great trailer, but it looks like it could be a great movie. At any rate, I'll be rooting for Sally Hawkins throughout awards season. Second that here about the trailer, but the premise is still great. I like to see how Hawkins and Spencer would pull off their roles. |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Sept 15, 2017 0:47:51 GMT
don't care for this new trailer at all. It makes all kinds of weird tonal shifts and reveals way too much, but Shannon is definitely standing out as a contender.
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Post by eyebrowmorroco on Sept 15, 2017 1:20:27 GMT
Allow me to say this: if you think this film is winning Best Picture, you are off your rocker.
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Post by Martin Stett on Sept 15, 2017 2:42:52 GMT
Allow me to say this: if you think this film is winning Best Picture, you are off your rocker. It looks like it could be a terrific movie, but yeah, people pushing this for winning BP is... just too unlikely. If Fury Road couldn't do it, this won't. I'm not saying it's impossible (and I'm a hardy del Toro fanboy), but the Oscars aren't gonna call a romance between a deaf woman and a fish the best movie of the year when we have Winston Churchill, Detroit riots, and WW2 battles out there. |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Sept 15, 2017 3:28:02 GMT
Allow me to say this: if you think this film is winning Best Picture, you are off your rocker. well two months ago, I think most of us thought it wouldn't even be nominated for anything major so the fact that people are even having this conversation is a nice surprise in its own right. |
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Post by harlequinade on Sept 15, 2017 13:07:14 GMT
Unfuck this mess  Love the trailer, very hyped for the film
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Post by getclutch on Sept 15, 2017 13:23:02 GMT
I'm getting a bit of a Captain Vidal vibe from Michael Shannon.
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Post by Pavan on Sept 15, 2017 18:16:54 GMT
Not really into this trailer but I'm so waiting for the movie.
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Post by FrancescoAbides on Sept 15, 2017 20:24:21 GMT
I'm getting a bit of a Captain Vidal vibe from Michael Shannon. I imagine part of this film's R-Rating owes a lot to the violence caused by Michael Shannon's character, much like Captain Vidal in Pan's Labyrinth. |
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Sept 15, 2017 22:44:12 GMT
I'm getting a bit of a Captain Vidal vibe from Michael Shannon. I imagine part of this film's R-Rating owes a lot to the violence caused by Michael Shannon's character, much like Captain Vidal in Pan's Labyrinth.I've seen it, and his character definitely gets a bit violent near the end. I won't spoil why though. |
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Post by jimmalone on Sept 16, 2017 8:38:22 GMT
Not a fan of del Toro's work overall so far, but I really like the trailer.
Looks like he would have collaborated with Jean-Pierre Jeunet on this one.
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Post by morton on Sept 16, 2017 16:17:47 GMT
Allow me to say this: if you think this film is winning Best Picture, you are off your rocker. First I have to just say that I didn't believe that the hype was real, and then I began to wonder if it could win Best Picture because everyone seemed to fall in love with it after seeing it in Venice and Telluride. I don't think it was helped any by winning the Golden Lion because I've already seen backlash begin, and the backlash will only continue to grow if it wins the TIFF Audience Award tomorrow. I just think it might be considered too light, and if a "light-romantic" film that won a slew of awards, was about the industry, and had two A-List, good-looking stars in it couldn't win Best Picture, I can't see The Shape of Water doing so. I think it needed to be the underdog to be able to have a chance of winning Best Picture instead of now being the favorite. Some films have been able to  back from being labeled the front-runner too early ( Spotlight, 12 Years a Slave, Argo), but I think they had an "importance" factor that The Shape of Water just won't have. Plus, they had other factors going for them like Spotlight and Argo winning SAG Ensemble which I don't think The Shape of Water will win. Spotlight and 12 Years a Slave being the safe alternatives to genre films that voters still just weren't ready to award the top prize to. Argo having the narrative of Ben Affleck being snubbed for Best Director. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2017 16:44:20 GMT
Allow me to say this: if you think this film is winning Best Picture, you are off your rocker. First I have to just say that I didn't believe that the hype was real, and then I began to wonder if it could win Best Picture because everyone seemed to fall in love with it after seeing it in Venice and Telluride. I don't think it was helped any by winning the Golden Lion because I've already seen backlash begin, and the backlash will only continue to grow if it wins the TIFF Audience Award tomorrow. I just think it might be considered too light, and if a "light-romantic" film that won a slew of awards, was about the industry, and had two A-List, good-looking stars in it couldn't win Best Picture, I can't see The Shape of Water doing so. I think it needed to be the underdog to be able to have a chance of winning Best Picture instead of now being the favorite. Some films have been able to back from being labeled the front-runner too early ( Spotlight, 12 Years a Slave, Argo), but I think they had an "importance" factor that The Shape of Water just won't have. Plus, they had other factors going for them like Spotlight and Argo winning SAG Ensemble which I don't think The Shape of Water will win. Spotlight and 12 Years a Slave being the safe alternatives to genre films that voters still just weren't ready to award the top prize to. Argo having the narrative of Ben Affleck being snubbed for Best Director. well stated as always m8 It must be kept in mind though that there was Gravity, and La La Land, both of which were clear #2s in the race, and would've easily won without the socially-important co-frontrunner. as of now The Shape Of Water doesn't have that co-frontrunner (other than The Post, maybe, but it is highly probable, almost definite that Spielberg would play it safe for Academy's and the Audience's taste, unless he goes full Schindler's List here we don't know of. the other two respective BP winners had some unconventionality to them, at least). so, unless there comes a frontrunner like that as well, it is pretty safe to say that TSoW wins. it is definitely the first definitely in the race though, which i think we both agree on. |
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Post by fotodude on Sept 16, 2017 18:50:14 GMT
Allow me to say this: if you think this film is winning Best Picture, you are off your rocker. First I have to just say that I didn't believe that the hype was real, and then I began to wonder if it could win Best Picture because everyone seemed to fall in love with it after seeing it in Venice and Telluride. I don't think it was helped any by winning the Golden Lion because I've already seen backlash begin, and the backlash will only continue to grow if it wins the TIFF Audience Award tomorrow. I just think it might be considered too light, and if a "light-romantic" film that won a slew of awards, was about the industry, and had two A-List, good-looking stars in it couldn't win Best Picture, I can't see The Shape of Water doing so. I think it needed to be the underdog to be able to have a chance of winning Best Picture instead of now being the favorite. Some films have been able to back from being labeled the front-runner too early ( Spotlight, 12 Years a Slave, Argo), but I think they had an "importance" factor that The Shape of Water just won't have. Plus, they had other factors going for them like Spotlight and Argo winning SAG Ensemble which I don't think The Shape of Water will win. Spotlight and 12 Years a Slave being the safe alternatives to genre films that voters still just weren't ready to award the top prize to. Argo having the narrative of Ben Affleck being snubbed for Best Director. I haven't seen the film, but I do think it has a narrative in that it's female led, which could gain traction considering OscarsSoMale, and the 3 main positive characters are minorities who haven't usually been treated so well by the society and industry (disabled, black, gay), whereas the antagonist is a straight, white man. I think a healthy narrative can be shaped there. |
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Post by fotodude on Sept 16, 2017 18:51:48 GMT
Allow me to say this: if you think this film is winning Best Picture, you are off your rocker. Interesting perspective when it's considered the frontrunner at the moment (by that I mean that more people, at least here, on OB or AW, think it can win best picture than any other film). |
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Sept 16, 2017 19:00:08 GMT
Allow me to say this: if you think this film is winning Best Picture, you are off your rocker. First I have to just say that I didn't believe that the hype was real, and then I began to wonder if it could win Best Picture because everyone seemed to fall in love with it after seeing it in Venice and Telluride. I don't think it was helped any by winning the Golden Lion because I've already seen backlash begin, and the backlash will only continue to grow if it wins the TIFF Audience Award tomorrow. I just think it might be considered too light, and if a "light-romantic" film that won a slew of awards, was about the industry, and had two A-List, good-looking stars in it couldn't win Best Picture, I can't see The Shape of Water doing so. I think it needed to be the underdog to be able to have a chance of winning Best Picture instead of now being the favorite. Some films have been able to back from being labeled the front-runner too early ( Spotlight, 12 Years a Slave, Argo), but I think they had an "importance" factor that The Shape of Water just won't have. Plus, they had other factors going for them like Spotlight and Argo winning SAG Ensemble which I don't think The Shape of Water will win. Spotlight and 12 Years a Slave being the safe alternatives to genre films that voters still just weren't ready to award the top prize to. Argo having the narrative of Ben Affleck being snubbed for Best Director. I think you're seriously underselling The Shape of Water. Personally I think the academy will go gaga over it. It's actually quite delightful in many ways, and isn't as dark as you might think it is, as the reviews suggest. Also aside from the fantasy / sci-fi aspects, it feels like something right up the academy's alley. |
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back from being labeled the front-runner too early (Spotlight, 12 Years a Slave, Argo), but I think they had an "importance" factor that The Shape of Water just won't have. Plus, they had other factors going for them like Spotlight and Argo winning SAG Ensemble which I don't think The Shape of Water will win. Spotlight and 12 Years a Slave being the safe alternatives to genre films that voters still just weren't ready to award the top prize to. Argo having the narrative of Ben Affleck being snubbed for Best Director. 
