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Post by Mattsby on May 4, 2018 17:26:51 GMT
Apparently comedian Jim Norton has a tiny role in this too - it's mentioned in an interview posted today. Btw De Niro's part in the beginning of Norton's last special was kinda hilarious. EDIT: looks like he mentioned months ago that he's playing Don Rickles -- “I have a small part in ‘The Irishman,’ the Martin Scorsese film,” he adds. “It’s a very small part, but I was able to get that, which was great. I play Don Rickles."
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Post by pacinoyes on May 10, 2018 10:34:21 GMT
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Post by Mattsby on May 10, 2018 17:08:18 GMT
An early draft was 135pgs but it probably grew a good amount. The original shooting schedule was 90 days but they went to 108. (Trivia - Soderbergh shot all 10 hours of The Knick S1 in like 70 days.)
Scorsese's early edits usually run extremely long and then it takes him a while to shave it down. But that's mostly been thru the studio system - people like Weinstein and the GoNY situation. With Netflix, I think they would want a longer film. And my guess would be a 4-hour pic that Netflix may release as a part I part II kinda deal. Another thing with the length: post may take longer considering, what, every scene needs fx work with the de-aging?
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jun 4, 2018 23:31:54 GMT
don't wanna be that guy, but this is totally going to be a mess.
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Post by Viced on Jun 5, 2018 0:11:27 GMT
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Jun 5, 2018 12:49:36 GMT
There is a world where I care about this film, but this one isn't it.
Fingers crossed I'll be wrong and I'll love it, but honestly I couldn't give too much of a shit either way.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 5, 2018 13:27:28 GMT
Like I said earlier, I think there's only 2 reasons not to be drooling about this film and that's the de-aging stuff and possibly Pacino as Hoffa. Is there a chance that they found themselves on set and had an "Oh Sh*t" moment where they realized the de-aging wouldn't work?
I suppose but nothing exists to indicate that yet.......and Pacino to me is the big risk here other than that, he doesn't look or sound much like Hoffa and while I can see him doing it and being great too, he is by no means "perfectly" cast. Everyone else in the cast, on paper at least is perfect, maybe not the right age but that's covered in the de-aging section above.
Other than that this is an astonishing cast beyond the big names even, an apparently great script, an unfnckwithable director, and is telling the Hoffa story which is one of the great American stories of the 20th century and its an untold story in American film too (even DeVito's Hoffa botched it)......I really don't get people who are too cool for school when it comes to this project given some of the other stuff we get excited about but if I'm being honest, I would literally stab myself in the neck with a pencil if I could see right now......
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Post by Viced on Jun 5, 2018 13:30:02 GMT
There is a world where I care about this film, but this one isn't it. Fingers crossed I'll be wrong and I'll love it, but honestly I couldn't give too much of a shit either way. thanks for sharing
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 21, 2018 1:29:28 GMT
Clarification of Bobby Cannavale's role well go figure ..........not Joe Gallo, but rather Skinny Razor - “Skinny Razor” DiTullio
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 10, 2018 11:20:23 GMT
No real details here but I don't know, I guess I didn't get that "spans 50 years" thing quite so much......
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 17, 2018 15:30:17 GMT
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Post by Pavan on Jul 18, 2018 9:00:19 GMT
Until then
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Post by Mattsby on Jul 23, 2018 2:00:50 GMT
Couple interesting listings on IMDb..... Someone cast as “Nixon’s Golf Caddie” - so who's playing Nixon? Is it a split second role like in a montage or something? (Nixon pardoned Hoffa from jail.) “McClellan Administrative Assistant” - McClellan was the Senate chairman of the committee that RFK was chief counsel, in those famous interrogations..... I mean maybe they could get away with using archive footage or those Leo rumors are true and we'll get a few really great scenes btwn him and Pacino (in the book there's a hysterical moment in an elevator btwn them)....
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 28, 2018 11:37:41 GMT
I think in some ways we've all been distracted by talk of their ages and the CGI etc. but really this is a narrative that is quite a balancing act for Scorsese and Thelma Schoonmaker his editor extraordinaire.
Since there's no trailer (most anticipated trailer ever?) it sometimes gets very confusing - and very fun! - to look at the cast list and envision the film in your head. For example, I think you could clearly make like 10 movies just about Jimmy Hoffa without Frank Sheeran at all - but this is a film about Frank Sheeran and how Hoffa fits into his story.
I haven't read the book but for each detail you add for just Hoffa, that's time away from Sheeran - and I assume there's at least some stuff with just Hoffa and Bill Bufalino or Frank Fitzsimmons, so if you do have an RFK character too (which I would love, he's important) again it becomes almost a Hoffa mini-movie in a way. Like what, an hour and half out of a 3 hour movie just the Hoffa angle which only includes Sheeran some of the time?
I do kind of think that “McClellan Administrative Assistant” is a sign and a sign of Leo maybe........but I don't know exactly how it all fits. I mean, this as a movie scene would be pretty great to see.........Danny Devito's film missed out on the full power of that dynamic and was unintentionally funny in one scene behind closed doors. You would have to imagine Scorsese wouldn't let this pass?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 17:44:31 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 3, 2018 18:00:42 GMT
That's a cool video and here's an interesting article that confirms some of it has been seen (a 6 second clip which I know is nothing but it's a start at least) By the way, this article with Cronenberg and Spike Lee coming out more or less in favor of Netflix is going to be the new path - no more of that Spielberg dinosaur "they aren't movies" which was in March - less than 6 months ago and he already sounds, old, sad, outdated.......But Netflix and this movie with all the old guys (irony) actually sounds young and revolutionary and daring in how it got made. www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/spike-lee-david-cronenberg-netflix-future-cinema-1139295
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 11, 2018 15:02:47 GMT
Legit?
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Post by Viced on Sept 11, 2018 15:21:46 GMT
Looks phony as hell. Like the cover of a bad true crime book.
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Post by Mattsby on Sept 25, 2018 21:57:01 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on Sept 25, 2018 22:18:44 GMT
It sounds like the editing process could be another revolutionary aspect of this film and for Thelma Schoonmaker - almost 80 and a legendary figure - that has to be exciting too. Said it before but everything about this film - the casting, release, financing, editing, visual effects on paper at least - is revolutionary and its people 75+ years of age who are at the core of getting this project done. It's a total f-you to the standard Hollywood process.
Not sure I understand how movie fans can wet themselves on a Suspiria remake or a 4th remake of A Star Is Born and not really find this film heroic and radical from a production POV.
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Post by Mattsby on Oct 17, 2018 18:08:44 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on Oct 17, 2018 20:54:47 GMT
I Heard You Paint Houses is the way to go - has an air of mystery to it. You already know how many idiots online go "De Niro, Pacino, Pesci what they couldn't get any Irishmen?" I think Pacino is in Paris soon for another of his glorious history of Al things so may be he'll have some chatter on this film too ......
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 17:41:27 GMT
When do you predict as we can expect teaser?
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Post by pacinoyes on Nov 25, 2018 14:16:29 GMT
I wouldn't think we'd see a teaser until September '19 maybe (gulp). That's about the same gap you saw for the Roma one I think (August teaser) for a December release. On the other hand, maybe this doesn't follow the normal Netflix procedures and maybe it's not even a December release anyway.
The first trailer better be spectacular too because every internet dweeb/killjoy who has already acted too cool for this is going to chime in with such insights as "why did they cast these guys anyway! ............ I can totally see the CGI de-aging! ................That doesn't look or sound like Hoffa (which they'll judge off one word in the trailer)!" etc.
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Post by stephen on Nov 26, 2018 4:56:33 GMT
I wouldn't think we'd see a teaser until September '19 maybe (gulp). That's about the same gap you saw for the Roma one I think (August teaser) for a December release. On the other hand, maybe this doesn't follow the normal Netflix procedures and maybe it's not even a December release anyway. The first trailer better be spectacular too because every internet dweeb/killjoy who has already acted too cool for this is going to chime in with such insights as "why did they cast these guys anyway! ............ I can totally see the CGI de-aging! ................That doesn't look or sound like Hoffa (which they'll judge off one word in the trailer)!" etc. Quit predicting my responses so far in advance.
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