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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jul 27, 2017 16:12:01 GMT
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 27, 2017 16:34:12 GMT
Well at their best, 1968-1972 the Rolling Stones were the best (the Francis Ford Coppola argument, really) of Rock music to me and in that era topped the Beatles, Dylan, their own great earlier singles and it's hard to make an argument after that era too (first 3 Ramones?, mid-80s Replacements? First 4 Elvis Costello? They are the only contenders really for me........) I'd have a hard time saying the Stones were "better" from 64-67, but they surpassed that work with Beggar's Banquet, Let it Bleed, Sticky Fingers and Exile on Main Street anyway.........and besides, they were always cooler.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Jul 27, 2017 16:51:18 GMT
Aside from "Paint It Black," the Rolling Stones have never done anything that interested me, their music is best served as background noise for a really great artist like Martin Scorsese to utilize stylistically. I've always thought The Beatles were bolder musically, more unique in their talents, much better songwriters, a better collection of personalities and views, and resonant.
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Post by DeepArcher on Jul 27, 2017 17:09:56 GMT
Aside from "Paint It Black," the Rolling Stones have never done anything that interested me, their music is best served as background noise for a really great artist like Martin Scorsese to utilize stylistically. I've always thought The Beatles were bolder musically, more unique in their talents, much better songwriters, a better collection of personalities and views, and resonant. Perfectly stated. I agree with all of this.
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Post by eyebrowmorroco on Jul 27, 2017 17:23:27 GMT
What's the third option?
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 27, 2017 17:35:49 GMT
............... I've always thought The Beatles were bolder musically, more unique in their talents, much better songwriters, a better collection of personalities and views, and resonant. Fair enough, and I agree in some ways but I would point out the very opposite is the argument that appeals to Stones fan, and can always be structured that way too - the same reason you can say love Punk Rock and hate U2 (lots of those qualities you listed for the Beatles apply there say) For example, it's a trick of the ear really. "Bolder musically" can translate as indulgent (no George Indian detours, no Paul homage schtick, no Revolution number 9 indulgences with the Stones), "more unique" is true but still no one ever fused Rock with the Blues like the Stones so if the defining element of their sound trumps it's uniqueness that's there too...........rewarding mastery instead of uniqueness. "Much better songwriters" - ok, maybe, but not when it came to writing in the Rock-Blues idiom - it's mastery of a specific style. ".......a better collection of personalities and views and resonant....." Well I would say the Beatles were a nicer collection of personalities but far less appealing to the way Rock music works actually - they weren't as sexy or intoxicated with the dark side as the Stones at all - the Beatles wrote love songs where the Stones wrote breakup or dumped or sex songs and as for their views being better and more resonant, I would just point out that if you tilt the perspective a little it changes ("All You Need Is Love" is a great song but tilt the POV and it is a silly, trite song written by a Rock band who didn't even play live by that point that had disappeared into itself)...........whereas say Gimme Shelter is a terrifying song, written by a band that not only still played live but was completely in tune with the dark turns the 60s took at the end in a way The Beatles could never be .............and that would have been true whether Scorsese ever used it for anything imo
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Post by countjohn on Jul 28, 2017 3:43:54 GMT
Both are great, The Beatles are a little better due to their best albums being better than the Stones best, IMO.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Aug 5, 2017 16:23:58 GMT
It depends on what mood I'm in. Although the Beatles at their best have impressed me more than the Rolling Stones, so I guess if forced to choose I would go with them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 15:45:52 GMT
The Beatles. Abbey Road alone trumps everything from the Stones.
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Post by ibbi on Aug 7, 2017 20:34:27 GMT
I love them both. They're probably my two favourite bands, and I'd hate to pick between them. Don't think I like any stretch of four by The Beatles as much as that quartet from The Stones when they stopped trying to 'be' John, Paul, George, and Ringo, and tried to be black instead.
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Post by Viced on Aug 7, 2017 20:44:27 GMT
It always has been and always will be The Rolling Stones for me.
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 22, 2023 8:53:14 GMT
What's next Pacino and De Niro doing a movie togther? (Potentially) historic anyway - I think maybe the closest to this was Brian Jones being on Baby You're A Rich Man (or not!) and Lennon/Clapton/Richards/Mitch Mitchell below being awesome.......I'm already calling the album title: "Arthritic Fingers" variety.com/2023/music/news/rolling-stones-paul-mccartney-recording-music-ringo-starr-1235529654/Almost 60 years since first meeting, it looks like the Rolling Stones and the two surviving Beatles may come together on a new Stones album. Variety hears from multiple sources that Paul McCartney has recorded bass parts for a forthcoming Rolling Stones project being helmed by 2021 Grammy producer of the year Andrew Watt. Ringo Starr is also slated to play on the yet-to-be-announced album.
Recording sessions took place in Los Angeles in recent weeks and, while it’s unclear which tracks will make the final cut — or whether McCartney and Starr would end up on the same song — the album’s production is nearing the mixing phase. Frontman Mick Jagger said in 2021 that the group has “a lot of tracks done,” and guitarist Keith Richards said in a New Year’s Instagram post last month that “There’s some new music on its way.”
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 1, 2024 21:59:39 GMT
.......no junk no soul as Brian Griffith said once
This is new!
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