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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jul 25, 2017 20:55:43 GMT
A lot of people said that she was miscast , that her acting sucked and that the only reason she got the part is because she was a box-office draw. In my humble opinion , she wasn't bad at all. As the matter of fact , she gave a pretty solid performance. That being said , I don't think her character was really needed . Ditto for the whole big romantic subplot. And may I also add that she looked pretty amazing for a 1860's Five Points slum-whore .  |
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jul 25, 2017 20:57:39 GMT
That awful? No, but she was still pretty bad, so she gets a yes vote by default.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jul 25, 2017 20:59:19 GMT
That awful? No, but she was still pretty bad, so she gets a yes vote by default. What did you hate about her performance ? Do you also blame the writers to some extant ? |
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Post by stephen on Jul 25, 2017 21:02:43 GMT
No. In fact, I'd argue that she's better than a lot of "beloved" female performances in Scorsese films. For example, she's miles better than anything Juliette Lewis and Jessica Lange did in Cape Fear, and I much prefer Diaz to the likes of Bernhard and Stone. The problem isn't with Diaz, even if people have issue with her accent. The problem is that the character is pretty flat and largely superfluous and feels like a studio-imposed change to the story. But I've never watched Gangs of New York and thought that Cameron Diaz took me out of the experience. She's no Daniel Day-Lewis, but who is? I think she's easy to pick on because she's Cameron Diaz, but she doesn't do anything in the film to warrant the hate she gets. At most, she can engender apathy while watching, but hate? No.
I also think it's hilarious that people think Sarah Polley would've been a better fit for the character.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jul 25, 2017 21:07:59 GMT
No. In fact, I'd argue that she's better than a lot of "beloved" female performances in Scorsese films. For example, she's miles better than anything Juliette Lewis and Jessica Lange did in Cape Fear, and I much prefer Diaz to the likes of Bernhard and Stone. The problem isn't with Diaz, even if people have issue with her accent. The problem is that the character is pretty flat and largely superfluous and feels like a studio-imposed change to the story. But I've never watched Gangs of New York and thought that Cameron Diaz took me out of the experience. She's no Daniel Day-Lewis, but who is? I think she's easy to pick on because she's Cameron Diaz, but she doesn't do anything in the film to warrant the hate she gets. At most, she can engender apathy while watching, but hate? No. I also think it's hilarious that people think Sarah Polley would've been a better fit for the character. Too true ! Never understood why so many people get such a hard on on Lewis' "retarded" performance !!!  I also think it's hilarious that people think Sarah Polley would've been a better fit for the character. That's because people always prefer the underdog:D I agree with your post . |
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Jul 25, 2017 21:09:16 GMT
That awful? No, but she was still pretty bad, so she gets a yes vote by default. What did you hate about her performance ? Do you also blame the writers to some extant ? Oh, the script is definitely to blame with the shoehorning of her character into the plot where it probably shouldn't be... but she didn't really do anything to elevate the character in any way. So while her bad performance was mostly a product of the apples she was given, but at the same time she didn't make apple pie. She just sort of cut them up and threw a couple slices of cheese onto a plate. |
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jul 25, 2017 21:12:11 GMT
no, the script and directing is to blame for that epic piece of shit of a film. Diaz was more than serviceable considering.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jul 25, 2017 21:14:18 GMT
No. In fact, I'd argue that she's better than a lot of "beloved" female performances in Scorsese films. For example, she's miles better than anything Juliette Lewis and Jessica Lange did in Cape Fear, and I much prefer Diaz to the likes of Bernhard and Stone. The problem isn't with Diaz, even if people have issue with her accent. The problem is that the character is pretty flat and largely superfluous and feels like a studio-imposed change to the story. But I've never watched Gangs of New York and thought that Cameron Diaz took me out of the experience. She's no Daniel Day-Lewis, but who is? I think she's easy to pick on because she's Cameron Diaz, but she doesn't do anything in the film to warrant the hate she gets. At most, she can engender apathy while watching, but hate? No. I also think it's hilarious that people think Sarah Polley would've been a better fit for the character. I remember reading that Scorsese didn't want perfect accents for both Diaz and Dicaprio because they were meant to represent a ""transitional generation between immigrants and Americans" or something like that. |
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Post by stephen on Jul 25, 2017 21:15:59 GMT
No. In fact, I'd argue that she's better than a lot of "beloved" female performances in Scorsese films. For example, she's miles better than anything Juliette Lewis and Jessica Lange did in Cape Fear, and I much prefer Diaz to the likes of Bernhard and Stone. The problem isn't with Diaz, even if people have issue with her accent. The problem is that the character is pretty flat and largely superfluous and feels like a studio-imposed change to the story. But I've never watched Gangs of New York and thought that Cameron Diaz took me out of the experience. She's no Daniel Day-Lewis, but who is? I think she's easy to pick on because she's Cameron Diaz, but she doesn't do anything in the film to warrant the hate she gets. At most, she can engender apathy while watching, but hate? No. I also think it's hilarious that people think Sarah Polley would've been a better fit for the character. I remember reading that Scorsese didn't want perfect accents for both Diaz and Dicaprio because they were mean to represent a ""transitional generation between immigrants and Americans" or something like that. Exactly. I don't fault her or DiCaprio for their accent work because it's meant to be a weird immigrant/first-generation patois. I'm not saying they're flawless or anything, but I've heard worse. All of my issues with Jenny Everdeane are exclusively how she's written, not how she's performed. |
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Post by countjohn on Jul 25, 2017 21:20:27 GMT
I thought she was fine, didn't really bring it down at all. She was better than Leo in the same movie.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 1:05:43 GMT
Both she and DiCaprio are miserably miscast, and it definitely doesn't help that there's no reason for her character to exist.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 2:57:18 GMT
Eh. It's an uninteresting character who doesn't really have much to do. Her performance has never struck me as particularly awful though. I'm just not a big fan of the movie.
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Post by getclutch on Jul 26, 2017 3:21:21 GMT
No.
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Post by DeepArcher on Jul 26, 2017 5:45:18 GMT
No. She's fine, honestly.
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Post by Kirk-Picard on Jul 26, 2017 6:46:06 GMT
Her performance was better than DDL's wooden caricature
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Post by stephen on Jul 26, 2017 16:47:05 GMT
Her performance was better than DDL's wooden caricature You can call Day-Lewis's performance in that film many things, but "wooden" is most decidedly not one of them. |
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jul 26, 2017 16:54:28 GMT
Her performance was better than DDL's wooden caricature  What the hell , dude ?  |
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jul 30, 2017 19:41:52 GMT
No, she's just meh.
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Post by tastytomatoes on Aug 3, 2017 10:49:54 GMT
I'd say Leonardo Dicaprio is miscast. He brought nothing new to creating a character for the film.
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Post by moonman157 on Aug 3, 2017 11:41:36 GMT
She's absolutely awful. The part is terrible too though.
Dicaprio is very solid and DDL is great.
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Post by jimmalone on Aug 3, 2017 11:52:02 GMT
No. She's not good, but okay. I think she's a bit better than DiCaprio though, who is the weakest link of an otherwise great movie.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Sept 2, 2017 7:18:47 GMT
Yes. BTW she has the corniest delivery of "No!" I've ever witnessed on film. Scorsese, why didn't you do better with casting? |
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Post by taranofprydain on Sept 3, 2017 0:53:43 GMT
She was actually pretty good.
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