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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jul 18, 2017 22:10:00 GMT
More attractive + more talented ?
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Post by Sharbs on Jul 18, 2017 22:16:08 GMT
Looks Matthias
Talent Tom
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 23:07:41 GMT
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Post by FrancescoAbides on Jul 19, 2017 12:55:29 GMT
Fassbender is a fine actor (masterful and clinical in Prometheus) but kinda overrated
In terms of talent: Tom Hardy > Matthias Schoenaerts > Michael Fassbender
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Post by forksforest on Jul 19, 2017 13:24:20 GMT
This is the most difficult thread ever. Before Schoenaerts was on my radar, Fassy would have won alllll the polls about looks. Now, idk. Fassbender still has a lot going for him, but Schoenaerts in FFTMC and A Bigger Splash...  In terms of talent, damn. Again, once upon a time, Fassy hands-down. But over the past 3-5 years, I haven't been too impressed by his output. Hardy is great, but I don't know why he ranks #1 for so many people. Fassbender in Shame still blows anything I've seen of Hardy's out of the water, but Hardy has been more consistently impressive. I also dislike both of the performances these guys were nominated for, lol. |
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jul 19, 2017 14:32:25 GMT
Danny Trejo and Cheech Marin Underrated beauties for sure |
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jul 20, 2017 15:14:55 GMT
This is the most difficult thread ever. Before Schoenaerts was on my radar, Fassy would have won alllll the polls about looks. Now, idk. Fassbender still has a lot going for him, but Schoenaerts in FFTMC and A Bigger Splash... In terms of talent, damn. Again, once upon a time, Fassy hands-down. But over the past 3-5 years, I haven't been too impressed by his output. Hardy is great, but I don't know why he ranks #1 for so many people. Fassbender in Shame still blows anything I've seen of Hardy's out of the water, but Hardy has been more consistently impressive. I also dislike both of the performances these guys were nominated for, lol. Thoughts on Matthias as an actor ? |
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Post by Johnny_Hellzapoppin on Jul 28, 2017 13:01:49 GMT
Tom for both, but Matthias is close behind for both of them, especially talent.
I don't think much of Fassbender in either regard, but especially in terms of talent.
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Post by stephen on Jul 28, 2017 13:04:47 GMT
Hardy and Schoenaerts are easily in the conversation for being in the top five actors of their age group, alongside Joaquin Phoenix, Ben Foster and Jake Gyllenhaal. Michael Fassbender can be good, but he is nowhere near their level.
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Post by forksforest on Aug 2, 2017 23:21:24 GMT
This is the most difficult thread ever. Before Schoenaerts was on my radar, Fassy would have won alllll the polls about looks. Now, idk. Fassbender still has a lot going for him, but Schoenaerts in FFTMC and A Bigger Splash... In terms of talent, damn. Again, once upon a time, Fassy hands-down. But over the past 3-5 years, I haven't been too impressed by his output. Hardy is great, but I don't know why he ranks #1 for so many people. Fassbender in Shame still blows anything I've seen of Hardy's out of the water, but Hardy has been more consistently impressive. I also dislike both of the performances these guys were nominated for, lol. Thoughts on Matthias as an actor ? I waver between love and mildly like. I'd nominate him for FFTMC (I think he's my runner-up in that year) and for A Bigger Splash. But things likee The Drop and Rust and Bone, I disliked him in. He's talented, for sure. But I only like him in certain projects, where his silent, stoic thing works better. |
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Aug 2, 2017 23:22:59 GMT
Thoughts on Matthias as an actor ? I waver between love and mildly like. I'd nominate him for FFTMC (I think he's my runner-up in that year) and for A Bigger Splash. But things likee The Drop and Rust and Bone, I disliked him in. He's talented, for sure. But I only like him in certain projects, where his silent, stoic thing works better. You don't like to see him playing bad/tough/rough guys , huh ?  |
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Post by forksforest on Aug 2, 2017 23:27:25 GMT
I waver between love and mildly like. I'd nominate him for FFTMC (I think he's my runner-up in that year) and for A Bigger Splash. But things likee The Drop and Rust and Bone, I disliked him in. He's talented, for sure. But I only like him in certain projects, where his silent, stoic thing works better. You don't like to see him playing bad/tough/rough guys , huh ?  Yeah, the correlation isn't lost on me haha. I did want to like him in Rust and Bone, since I thought Cotillard's performance was mesmerizing, but I couldn't figure out his character and kept getting frustrated. The Drop I just didn't like as a film, so Tom Hardy (barely) aside, nothing worked for me there. |
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Aug 2, 2017 23:31:01 GMT
You don't like to see him playing bad/tough/rough guys , huh ? Yeah, the correlation isn't lost on me haha. I did want to like him in Rust and Bone, since I thought Cotillard's performance was mesmerizing, but I couldn't figure out his character and kept getting frustrated. The Drop I just didn't like as a film, so Tom Hardy (barely) aside, nothing worked for me there. You should watch BULLHEAD ASAP ! Such a tour-de-force performance . A little warning ,though : that movie is devastatingly sad. His character is quite tragic. |
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Aug 3, 2017 16:19:23 GMT
Hardy and Schoenaerts are easily in the conversation for being in the top five actors of their age group, alongside Joaquin Phoenix, Ben Foster and Jake Gyllenhaal. Michael Fassbender can be good, but he is nowhere near their level. Seriously , though. What do you dislike about Fassy's acting ? |
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Post by stephen on Aug 3, 2017 16:25:20 GMT
Seriously , though. What do you dislike about Fassy's acting ? I just can never buy him when he goes intense. He has a nasty tendency to go overwrought, and it comes off laughable and unconvincing. Shame and 12 Years a Slave illustrate these issues perfectly. I know a lot of people go gaga for him in those parts, but I think he's terrible in them. He's not the sort of actor who can elevate bad writing, either. Where Fassbender does excel is in playing cool, clinical, detached characters. That's why I think his best performances are as David in Prometheus (which, yes, has dodgy writing but not when it comes to David) and Steve Jobs. Fassbender is more of a Peter O'Toole type than he is anything else, and I think every time he ventures outside of that arena, it hasn't worked out well for him. |
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Aug 3, 2017 16:28:00 GMT
Seriously , though. What do you dislike about Fassy's acting ? I just can never buy him when he goes intense. He has a nasty tendency to go overwrought, and it comes off laughable and unconvincing. Shame and 12 Years a Slave illustrate these issues perfectly. I know a lot of people go gaga for him in those parts, but I think he's terrible in them. He's not the sort of actor who can elevate bad writing, either. Where Fassbender does excel is in playing cool, clinical, detached characters. That's why I think his best performances are as David in Prometheus (which, yes, has dodgy writing but not when it comes to David) and Steve Jobs. Fassbender is more of a Peter O'Toole type than he is anything else, and I think every time he ventures outside of that arena, it hasn't worked out well for him. Thoughts on his performances in : -hunger -fish tank -inglorious basterds -a dangerous method -macbeth ? |
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Post by stephen on Aug 3, 2017 16:31:28 GMT
I just can never buy him when he goes intense. He has a nasty tendency to go overwrought, and it comes off laughable and unconvincing. Shame and 12 Years a Slave illustrate these issues perfectly. I know a lot of people go gaga for him in those parts, but I think he's terrible in them. He's not the sort of actor who can elevate bad writing, either. Where Fassbender does excel is in playing cool, clinical, detached characters. That's why I think his best performances are as David in Prometheus (which, yes, has dodgy writing but not when it comes to David) and Steve Jobs. Fassbender is more of a Peter O'Toole type than he is anything else, and I think every time he ventures outside of that arena, it hasn't worked out well for him. Thoughts on his performances in : -hunger -fish tank -inglorious basterds -a dangerous method -macbeth ? He's very good in Hunger (one of the rare times his intensity has worked, but I also think it was much more subdued and internalized than in the aforementioned other McQueen films), he didn't make much of an impression on me in Fish Tank, he's very good in Basterds but he's not on the level of Waltz or Diehl, he's adequate in A Dangerous Method but Mortensen schools him hard in it, and he's decent in Macbeth but the issue is that nobody in that cast was on the same wavelength with their co-stars, with each acting like they were in their own version of the play separate from the others. I don't hate Fassbender, but the effusive praise lobbed his way since his breakout has been a bit much. I actually think he's not too dissimilar from Leonardo DiCaprio; both are really good when they act in their wheelhouses, but when they step outside of their comfort zones, they show themselves to be quite limited. |
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Aug 3, 2017 16:34:26 GMT
Thoughts on his performances in : -hunger -fish tank -inglorious basterds -a dangerous method -macbeth ? He's very good in Hunger (one of the rare times his intensity has worked, but I also think it was much more subdued and internalized than in the aforementioned other McQueen films), he didn't make much of an impression on me in Fish Tank, he's very good in Basterds but he's not on the level of Waltz or Diehl, he's adequate in A Dangerous Method but Mortensen schools him hard in it, and he's decent in Macbeth but the issue is that nobody in that cast was on the same wavelength with their co-stars, with each acting like they were in their own version of the play separate from the others. I don't hate Fassbender, but the effusive praise lobbed his way since his breakout has been a bit much. I actually think he's not too dissimilar from Leonardo DiCaprio; both are really good when they act in their wheelhouses, but when they step outside of their comfort zones, they show themselves to be quite limited. So I guess you would't exactly call him a "versatile" actor , huh ? And why would you say that Hardy & Schoenaerts are better ? |
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Post by stephen on Aug 3, 2017 18:18:14 GMT
He's very good in Hunger (one of the rare times his intensity has worked, but I also think it was much more subdued and internalized than in the aforementioned other McQueen films), he didn't make much of an impression on me in Fish Tank, he's very good in Basterds but he's not on the level of Waltz or Diehl, he's adequate in A Dangerous Method but Mortensen schools him hard in it, and he's decent in Macbeth but the issue is that nobody in that cast was on the same wavelength with their co-stars, with each acting like they were in their own version of the play separate from the others. I don't hate Fassbender, but the effusive praise lobbed his way since his breakout has been a bit much. I actually think he's not too dissimilar from Leonardo DiCaprio; both are really good when they act in their wheelhouses, but when they step outside of their comfort zones, they show themselves to be quite limited. So I guess you would't exactly call him a "versatile" actor , huh ? And why would you say that Hardy & Schoenaerts are better ? They are much more versatile and have been much more convincing in their roles far more than Fassbender, and they have much more untapped potential. |
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Aug 3, 2017 18:47:36 GMT
So I guess you would't exactly call him a "versatile" actor , huh ? And why would you say that Hardy & Schoenaerts are better ? They are much more versatile and have been much more convincing in their roles far more than Fassbender, and they have much more untapped potential. Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. |
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Yeah, the correlation isn't lost on me haha. I did want to like him in Rust and Bone, since I thought Cotillard's performance was mesmerizing, but I couldn't figure out his character and kept getting frustrated. 