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Post by mhynson27 on Jul 17, 2017 3:59:51 GMT
Thoughts?
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Jul 17, 2017 4:15:33 GMT
Very, very good. The structure is incredible, the characters are well-developed and interesting to watch, and Nolan is super creative with trademark noir elements, allowing him to set the audience up to one expectation before subverting it by playing on different genre tropes (Natalie being a prime example).
I don't agree with the consensus on here that it's Nolan's best, though. I think he has done a much better job enriching his characters, exploring his ambitious themes, and developed a more interesting mise-en-scène since. For these reasons, I find a few of his other films more rewarding on a rewatch since Memento works better as an experiment in narrative than anything else. You can watch it once or twice and get everything you want out of it, while films like The Prestige and Inception only get more interesting with subsequent viewings.
On a side note, I find it a little amusing how many complain about Nolan's use of exposition when the climax of this movie is a giant exposition dump. It makes sense given the circumstances of the characters, but that's never stopped people from complaining about it elsewhere.
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Post by DeepArcher on Jul 17, 2017 4:28:48 GMT
I'll do what I did for your Following thread and link to the review I wrote after my marathon re-watch: letterboxd.com/matt_ineman/film/memento/. Despite being a huge fan of The Prestige, The Dark Knight, and Inception, I still think I'd include myself in the crowd of people who consider this one to be Nolan's finest work to date. It has a couple of very typical Nolan flaws, including occasionally weak dialogue (a lot of the "causal" interactions are super forced and awkward, a big problem I have with a lot of his early work) and a few grating plot inconsistencies. But in terms of creativity, innovation (on a small scale, especially), and overall storytelling quality, he has yet to top this. It's a mystery that you can truly never get bored of, and that's ultimately its most invaluable asset, and what makes it so memorable.
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Post by DeepArcher on Jul 17, 2017 4:32:29 GMT
On a side note, I find it a little amusing how many complain about Nolan's use of exposition when the climax of this movie is a giant exposition dump. It makes sense given the circumstances of the characters, but that's never stopped people from complaining about it elsewhere. I 100% agree, though what I do love about that particular "exposition dump" is that a great deal of the mystery's solution lies in how we perceive the validity of what is told to us.
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Post by Joaquim on Jul 17, 2017 4:32:57 GMT
One of the Top 3 best movies ever made.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Jul 17, 2017 4:38:44 GMT
On a side note, I find it a little amusing how many complain about Nolan's use of exposition when the climax of this movie is a giant exposition dump. It makes sense given the circumstances of the characters, but that's never stopped people from complaining about it elsewhere. I 100% agree, though what I do love about that particular "exposition dump" is that a great deal of the mystery's solution lies in how we perceive the validity of what is told to us. I know some have read it that way, but I see no reason to believe any of it was a lie.
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Post by DeepArcher on Jul 17, 2017 4:53:31 GMT
I 100% agree, though what I do love about that particular "exposition dump" is that a great deal of the mystery's solution lies in how we perceive the validity of what is told to us. I know some have read it that way, but I see no reason to believe any of it was a lie. I've always believed that what Teddy says is the truth. But it still prompts a great deal of discussion, though. I just appreciate it for not really being the answer, but an answer.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 17, 2017 9:53:28 GMT
It's my favorite film of the 2000s, not only is it brilliant in and of itself but it constantly is self aware of what it's doing without losing the story it's getting across. Unlike later, "give you a headache" Chris, it has none of the extraneous trappings of The Prestige, Inception, etc. which have to strain to match the "wow" factor he got here. The film is devastatingly smart and simple actually without straining for it and constituting an over-explanation ("dream level 5!" etc).
Said it before, I'll say it again, early Nolan was the best (first 3) because they were stories of dark men, who choose their path and follow a logical, dark conclusion. They follow a lean, and almost cruel logic to the end. He's made much great after those 3 but those 3 are of a unified theme with no bells or whistles to distract you from that conceptual approach.......I don't think he really is a fantasist despite where his career went.
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Post by jakesully on Jul 17, 2017 16:08:08 GMT
Its flat out brilliant . And I wish Guy & Nolan worked together again someday . A boy can dream right?
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Post by getclutch on Jul 17, 2017 17:18:29 GMT
The plot itself is brilliant. This film offers an effective metaphor for the act of watching film.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 18, 2017 9:42:31 GMT
@ hi224 - I believe Teddy because and this is key, the exposition makes thematic sense too in addition to narrative sense. What would happen to a guy like Lenny is exactly what happened - there's no twist because the film is so tight it doesn't need one (same with Following and Insomnia too), it rather has a clear tragic arc to it and plays it out that way.
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Post by FrancescoAbides on Jul 18, 2017 12:26:01 GMT
Nolan´s best film, altough his best achievement in directing was for Inception - But I truly believe Dunkirk will have a word to say about this
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Post by JangoB on Jul 18, 2017 12:42:02 GMT
It's great
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jul 18, 2017 15:08:38 GMT
Nolan's best film to date ! It's all downhill from there
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Post by mhynson27 on May 20, 2018 17:06:34 GMT
Watched it again last night. Still fucking incredible.
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Post by Lubezki on May 20, 2018 17:41:25 GMT
One of his numerous masterworks. I would love to see him tackle something like this again as his next movie but include more horror elements. He showed with ‘Memento’ that he can create a highly unsettling, almost fraught ambience, akin to the great psychological thrillers out there. And this is definitely one of them.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 18:06:43 GMT
I think it's pretty good. I prefer Interstellar by a good deal though.
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Post by jakesully on May 21, 2018 4:03:37 GMT
Watched it again last night. Still fucking incredible. What would you like Nolan to do next? Personally, I really want to see him tackle a modern day British gangster film.
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Post by mhynson27 on May 21, 2018 5:05:35 GMT
Watched it again last night. Still fucking incredible. What would you like Nolan to do next? Personally, I really want to see him tackle a modern day British gangster film. Oooh that would be good. I was thinking either a psychological horror or a western.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on May 21, 2018 7:13:49 GMT
What would you like Nolan to do next? Personally, I really want to see him tackle a modern day British gangster film. Oooh that would be good. I was thinking either a psychological horror or a western. Psychological horror and western are the two genres that I would most like to see him do next as well. I'm also dying to see his take on Bond, but since that probably won't happen for at least a few more years, another original project would be ideal. According to a couple recent articles from LA Times and San Francisco Chronicle, he's been working on a script while also working on the 2001: A Space Odyssey re-release. Hopefully we'll get some kind of announcement later in the year about what's next in the pipeline.
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Post by Billy_Costigan on May 23, 2018 16:45:32 GMT
Masterpiece. One of the best films of the 2000s.
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