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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 14:11:03 GMT
Who do you prefer as an actor? I really enjoy both, but for me, it's not close. Olivia de Havilland is my choice - she is even in my list of my 10 favorite actresses of all time. Her two soulful, beautiful Academy Award wins are just criminally underrated. I've been thinking about her a lot lately, what with her recent Damehood (the first American actress to receive the full honors) and her 101st Birthday coming up on the 1st! Long live the Queen.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 14:28:55 GMT
De Havilland........ slighty. Take Rebecca out and it won't be close, but because it's included, it's somewhat closer to call. Both top 5 of 40s, but of course. For me, Fontaine is just OK in 'Rebecca'... 1940 is all about Katharine Hepburn in 'The Philadelphia Story.' I do however love Fontaine's work in Robert Stevens' 'Jane Eyre'... Have you seen that adaptation? Orson Welles plays Rochester. It's such a heady fever dream!
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Post by bobbystarks on Jun 27, 2017 17:51:43 GMT
I just watched Rebecca for the first time so I'm inclined to say Fontaine.
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Post by countjohn on Jun 27, 2017 21:32:42 GMT
Brutally tough choice but de Havilland. Both are very good.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 21:53:34 GMT
Sorry Joan, your sister is the bomb.
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Post by stephen on Jun 27, 2017 21:55:45 GMT
Both were tremendous and dominated the 1940s in a way that only Ingrid Bergman could come close to matching . . . but Joan beats out her big sister for me. I give her three wins in that decade to Olivia's two. It still remains a shame that neither actress did many roles into their winter years. What a wonderful sight it would've been to see either one play Eleanor of Aquitaine, or Gertrude, or even Daisy Werthan.
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jun 27, 2017 22:53:25 GMT
De Havilland
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 1:10:27 GMT
Sorry Joan, your sister is the bomb. I can tell from your avatar that you love 'The Heiress,' but have you seen her other Oscar winning performance in 'To Each His Own'? The film is just beautiful - I cried like a baby.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 1:44:48 GMT
I can tell from your avatar that you love 'The Heiress,' but have you seen her other Oscar winning performance in 'To Each His Own'? The film is just beautiful - I cried like a baby. Yes! I LOVE that movie. I find it kind of head of its time showing de Havilland as a wholesome girl having a baby out of wedlock and having a happy ending just the same. I love that movie to bits and I'm happy that TCM has been showing it more.
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Post by taranofprydain on Jun 28, 2017 2:08:48 GMT
De Havilland
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Post by taranofprydain on Jun 28, 2017 2:09:23 GMT
De Havilland
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Post by getclutch on Jun 28, 2017 4:37:13 GMT
Joan had a more beautiful face although Olivia was the better actress, in my opinion.
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Post by scorpio68 on Jun 28, 2017 7:19:48 GMT
De Havilland - Both sisters are superbly elegant and tremendously talented, but "Gone with the Wind", "To Each His Own", "The Snake Pit" and "The Heiress" give Olivia the edge
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Post by countjohn on Jun 28, 2017 21:42:10 GMT
Since it's being discussed, The Heiress is so good. One of the best Hollywood movies of that era and probably De Havilland's best performance. The ending is perfect.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on Jun 28, 2017 21:42:59 GMT
OLIVIA FREAKIN' DE HAVILLAND
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Jun 29, 2017 13:53:31 GMT
I don't care for Joan Fontaine. Olivia De Havilland is the superior actress. I just think her style of acting holds up much better today than Fontaine's theatrics.
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Post by FrancescoAbides on Jun 30, 2017 0:00:16 GMT
Olivia De Havilland hands down
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Post by stephen on Jun 30, 2017 0:06:06 GMT
I don't care for Joan Fontaine. Olivia De Havilland is the superior actress. I just think her style of acting holds up much better today than Fontaine's theatrics.
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Post by cheesecake on Jun 30, 2017 0:25:30 GMT
Fontaine but love both.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Jun 30, 2017 1:40:22 GMT
I don't care for Joan Fontaine. Olivia De Havilland is the superior actress. I just think her style of acting holds up much better today than Fontaine's theatrics. Huh? How is Fontaine theatrical? If she's theatrical, so's Olivia - and I prefer Olivia in general, slightly. Fontaine in everything I've seen her in had that chest-holding, studio-era acting style a lot of actresses had back then that just does not appeal to me personally. I prefer a more modern acting style and I think Olivia's given performances (like in Hush Hush, Sweet Charlotte and Gone With the Wind) that were less inclined to go in that other direction that I can't stand.
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Post by cinemagirl16 on Jul 4, 2017 1:17:39 GMT
I like Fontaine, but de Havilland hands down.
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Post by wendy on Jul 4, 2017 14:02:37 GMT
Definitely de Havilland. Not only does she have higher peaks (mostly The Heiress but also others), but her CV and career in general is a bit more impressive and varied to me too. I like Fontaine's sensitive style, but I would have liked to see her branch out a bit too. Agree with Stephen that it's a shame they had such (relatively) short careers.
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Post by stephen on Jul 4, 2017 14:05:05 GMT
Definitely de Havilland. Not only does she have higher peaks (mostly The Heiress but also others), but her CV and career in general is a bit more impressive and varied to me too. I like Fontaine's sensitive style, but I would have liked to see her branch out a bit too. Agree with Stephen that it's a shame they had such (relatively) short careers. On top of that, (belated) birthday girl Eva Marie Saint as well. I know that it's a tragic (and wholly unacceptable) fact of life that most actresses don't have a long shelf life in the business, but goddamn, the three of these ladies should've been dominating screens well into their twilight years.
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Post by wendy on Jul 4, 2017 15:32:46 GMT
Definitely de Havilland. Not only does she have higher peaks (mostly The Heiress but also others), but her CV and career in general is a bit more impressive and varied to me too. I like Fontaine's sensitive style, but I would have liked to see her branch out a bit too. Agree with Stephen that it's a shame they had such (relatively) short careers. On top of that, (belated) birthday girl Eva Marie Saint as well. I know that it's a tragic (and wholly unacceptable) fact of life that most actresses don't have a long shelf life in the business, but goddamn, the three of these ladies should've been dominating screens well into their twilight years. Yes!! I always lament that we don't see enough of the likes of her, Joanne Woodward and co. but at least we've been able to see them pop up (usually in nothing grandma roles) throughout the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 00s (even the '10s for Marie Saint!!). One of the more unfortunate things is the fact that all those old Hollywood golden age ladies hung up the towel. I guess they're from a time where women in general weren't expected to work then, let alone into their twilight years.
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Post by stephen on Jul 4, 2017 15:41:13 GMT
On top of that, (belated) birthday girl Eva Marie Saint as well. I know that it's a tragic (and wholly unacceptable) fact of life that most actresses don't have a long shelf life in the business, but goddamn, the three of these ladies should've been dominating screens well into their twilight years. Yes!! I always lament that we don't see enough of the likes of her, Joanne Woodward and co. but at least we've been able to see them pop up (usually in nothing grandma roles) throughout the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 00s (even the '10s for Marie Saint!!). One of the more unfortunate things is the fact that all those old Hollywood golden age ladies hung up the towel. I guess they're from a time where women in general weren't expected to work then, let alone into their twilight years. I always kinda got the impression that Joan just stopped giving a shit after the mid-'50s or so, and Olivia seemed to enjoy the Parisian life enough and had made a comfortable enough living up to that point that she didn't have to work as much, and older female parts were as scarce then as they are now. Still, though, what I wouldn't give to see a Trip to Bountiful/Whales in August-type film for Eva Marie Saint and someone like Cloris Leachman, where they play aging sisters on a road trip to the old homestead.
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