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Post by urbanpatrician on Jun 10, 2017 22:11:32 GMT
Bunuel from 69-74 had a monster streak of some of the weirdest, evocative surrealism I've ever seen. I know I can't describe Tristana like that, but it's still a great movie, certainly not the stinker outlier of that streak or anything. I call it Luis Bunuel's edgyfarout-surreal trilogy (The Milky Way, Discreet Charm of Burgeoise, and The Phantom of Liberty - the best one). If you don't see this as a trilogy, you're an idiot.
Though outside of that streak, Bergman probably has more great movies. My argument is even if Bunuel ruled that period, he kinda did a specific thing very well where Bergman did great movies from various spheres of inspiration. Still, that alone still makes Bunuel in my opinion greater, but Bergman obviously is still great (even if my favorites from him are different from most people's).
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Post by getclutch on Jun 10, 2017 22:17:44 GMT
Bergman.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 1:07:51 GMT
Two of my favorite directors, but it's gotta be Bergman. He's more consistently excellent, and his best movie (Persona) is stronger than Bunuel's best (The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 1:09:36 GMT
Bunuel from 69-74 had a monster streak of some of the weirdest, evocative surrealism I've ever seen. I know I can't describe Tristana like that, but it's still a great movie, certainly not the stinker outlier of that streak or anything. (not that there was anything not great among it) Though outside of that streak, Bergman probably has more great movies. My argument is even if Bunuel ruled that period, he kinda did a specific thing very well where Bergman did great movies from various spheres of inspiration. Still, that alone still makes Bunuel in my opinion greater, but Bergman obviously is still great (even if my favorites from him are different from most people's). I really didn't like Tristana when I watched it, but I should really give it another chance. I'm pretty sure the subtitles were way off and/or very simplified |
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Post by urbanpatrician on Jun 11, 2017 1:13:40 GMT
Bunuel from 69-74 had a monster streak of some of the weirdest, evocative surrealism I've ever seen. I know I can't describe Tristana like that, but it's still a great movie, certainly not the stinker outlier of that streak or anything. (not that there was anything not great among it) Though outside of that streak, Bergman probably has more great movies. My argument is even if Bunuel ruled that period, he kinda did a specific thing very well where Bergman did great movies from various spheres of inspiration. Still, that alone still makes Bunuel in my opinion greater, but Bergman obviously is still great (even if my favorites from him are different from most people's). I really didn't like Tristana when I watched it, but I should really give it another chance. I'm pretty sure the subtitles were way off and/or very simplified Do it, one of his best straightforward dramas with a beautiful sense of era. I know it seems like the oddball in that streak, but who cares right? I thought Tristana is what Viridiana would've been had it not turn into a completely new movie after the death of the uncle, |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 1:25:28 GMT
Two of my favorite directors, but it's gotta be Bergman. He's more consistently excellent, and his best movie ( Persona) is stronger than Bunuel's best (The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie). I think Bunuel's best is Exterminating Angel  that's fair. I completely understand why that's often considered his best, but nothing can beat Discreet Charm for me. Love it so goddamn much. |
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Post by Kirk-Picard on Jun 11, 2017 14:36:18 GMT
Bunuel
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Post by stephen on Jun 11, 2017 14:46:36 GMT
I'd probably opt for Bergman in terms of sheer volume, but Buñuel has Simon of the Desert, Un Chien Andalou and Viridiana, which I would list as some of the all-time greats and stronger than most of Ingmar's catalogue.
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Post by jimmalone on Jun 11, 2017 15:01:32 GMT
Bergman for me.
He may have an advantage here, because I've seen more movies of his (18 I think, while it's just 10 for Bunuel), but he has made more movies, which receive the rating "great" from me than the Spaniard, especially with "Wild Strawberries", "The Seventh Seal", "Persona" or "Fanny and Alexander". And while I haven't seen a single Bunuel-film, that I have disliked, which is not the case for Bergman, whose "Scenes of a Marriage" I can't really stand, so far there were only two movies of his I truly loved with "Le charme discret de la bourgeoisie" and "Le Fantome de Liberte".
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Post by themoviesinner on Jun 11, 2017 16:31:54 GMT
Bergman for me, although both are among my favorite directors.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 16:45:56 GMT
Right now, I would go with Bergman by quite a distance, but there's still a lot I haven't seen from Bunuel.
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Post by scorpio68 on Jun 11, 2017 23:43:00 GMT
Bergman is my favorite Director of all time, so clearly him - he truly elevated movies to a genuine artform like few other people ever have; that being said, Bunuel directed some of the most subversive, existential-laden, masterful film work ever seen in the history of the movies
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Post by therealcomicman117 on Jun 15, 2017 17:29:40 GMT
Bergman
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Post by MsMovieStar on Jun 15, 2017 21:39:33 GMT
Oh honey, Bunuel, of course... because so much in life is more comically absurd than depressingly gloomy.
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