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Post by Pavan on May 23, 2024 18:33:14 GMT
A solid prequel that succeeded in world building but fell short as a triumphant character journey. We get to see new places in the world and they are intricately designed and the visuals are pretty good although i missed John Seale. Has flashes of brilliance that's unique to the world that Geoge Miller conceived but the episodic nature of the film and the uneven pacing didn't let it reach greater heights. I know its called saga but its not a good thing when the film has a lot of blackouts discounting the transitions in between chapters.
The action part's good but do not expect a Fury Road again. The visuals effects are very noticeable which is not a good thing.
Chris Hemsworth shined in his role. He was the MVP for me. Anya's okay but she was not given much to do. Its her not her fault when she comes onto the screen some 45 min into the duration of the film. Its a 7-ish for me right now but i might give it another try before coming to a conclusion.
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Post by Pasquale on May 24, 2024 0:56:20 GMT
Hype
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Post by stephen on May 24, 2024 2:58:39 GMT
While it's not as out-of-the-gate flawless as Fury Road, I really think Miller's latest film really enriches the franchise beautifully, and I look at it less as a singular story and more as an anthology that happens to focus on Furiosa herself. I think it's very much a film that feels like it's always going to have the loftiest expectations to live up to because Fury Road is one of the greatest movies ever made, action or no, and anything less than that is going to be seen as a disappointment, but taken on its own merits, I think it's still a triumph.
Anya Taylor-Joy really handles the role beautifully, showing that there is great potential in Furiosa as a potential legacy character that can't be tied down to a singular performer, as titanic as Theron was in the first outing. Chris Hemsworth allows his freak flag to fly in dizzyingly demented fashion as, well, Dementus -- this guy was comic gold the whole way through. Tom Burke also really packed an old-school swagger that made me think of John Wayne in Stagecoach; Praetorian Jack was too cool for this world. I also loved the return of Immortan Joe, Rictus, Scrotus (from the game), my boy The Organic Mechanic, and the legions of sickly war boys. (Shout-out to Quaden Bayles as the war pup and Australian Survivor's own Mark Wales as one of Praetorian Jack's pit crew.)
While I do feel that the movie does miss the natural dazzle of John Seale's breathtaking cinematography (still one of the biggest robberies of the decade, sorry Chivo), I do think people are being a bit harsh on Simon Duggan, especially as I think he lenses the magnificently choreographed action sequences with aplomb. Empress Jenny's costumes are still sensational, Colin Gibson's production design perfectly complements his prior Oscar win, and Mad Maggie Sixel's editing (with Eliot Knapman) doesn't feel as balls-to-the-wall chaotic like the previous outing, but it does have a vigorous pulse to it.
There's more I'll have to say later, I'm sure, but right now I think Dr. George did make it epic (to quote Dementus), and I am always glad to bear witness to his mad vision on the big screen.
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Post by finniussnrub on May 24, 2024 23:16:23 GMT
Sadly found it to be a disappointment, definitely has its moments but the story is all over the place, lacks instantly iconic lines, spends way too much time telling us details we already could've inferred in Fury Road, and taking place in so many of the same locations makes the wasteland seem so small, while also robbing us of all that much "new" when it comes to costuming, production or character designs.
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Post by Pavan on May 25, 2024 6:04:39 GMT
Cast ranking:
1. Chris Hemsworth 2. Alyla Browne 3. Charlee Fraser 4. Anya Taylor-Joy 5. Tom Burke
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on May 27, 2024 2:59:30 GMT
We gonna address how Furiosa grew up around largely Australian apocalypse denizens, seemed to have a vague Aussie accent as a child, yet didn’t take to the accent as an adult?
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on May 27, 2024 14:41:39 GMT
We gonna address how Furiosa grew up around largely Australian apocalypse denizens, seemed to have a vague Aussie accent as a child, yet didn’t take to the accent as an adult?
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on May 27, 2024 17:35:50 GMT
We gonna address how Furiosa grew up around largely Australian apocalypse denizens, seemed to have a vague Aussie accent as a child, yet didn’t take to the accent as an adult? Fair enough 😂 The movie’s fucking rad, I just thought it was hilarious.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on May 27, 2024 22:47:43 GMT
Yeah, this movie rules. Dr. George knows how to do vehicular action better than anyone and he was wise not to try to make this feel too much like a Fury Road redux. Chris Hemsworth as Dementus is an absolute blast, a perfect utilization of Hemsworth's talents as an actor. I was impressed by Anya Taylor-Joy's credibility in the action of this movie, both because she had to fill the shoes of Charlize Theron (whom she did a surprisingly great impression of) and her petite build.
The movie I would say is a bit saggy in the middle and I can't quite gather if that's because it goes from being drawn out in the first act to more sporadically episodic or if it's because there just isn't as much meat to some of those middle act story pieces. Really the only thing I'd call a flaw as everything else is still damn good if not quite up to the all-time level of the last entry. I think the movie will likely suffer to some extent from direct comparisons between the two, especially given the wait (which I think plays a part in its current box office underperformance), but I at least am more than satisfied.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on May 28, 2024 1:50:43 GMT
Had some issues but still thought it was great overall.
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Post by mhynson27 on May 30, 2024 13:55:22 GMT
Tom Burke's Aussie accent was REALLY good.
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Post by stephen on May 30, 2024 14:52:49 GMT
Tom Burke's Aussie accent was REALLY good. I expect Praetorian Jack on the next season of Australian Survivor.
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Post by mhynson27 on May 30, 2024 15:36:08 GMT
Tom Burke's Aussie accent was REALLY good. I expect Praetorian Jack on the next season of Australian Survivor.When he first started talking, I genuinely started to doubt myself on whether he was British like I remembered.
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Post by Martin Stett on May 31, 2024 1:09:05 GMT
Glory be, warboys! Dr. George made his own version of Ben-Hur and it is EPIC! Literally and figuratively. I wasn't totally on this movie's wavelength at first, but somewhere in the second act - somewhere in Praetorian Jack's simple goodness giving Furiosa a flicker of light that she can follow out of the dark that is her life - this clicked, and I realized that this is more than just fancy worldbuilding and answers to questions that nobody asked ("How did Furiosa lose her arm?" - "Why should we care?"). This is a fleshed out character journey that ends in Fury Road. I love FR even more than the next guy (if the next guy is Stephen, disregard this comment), but it works because of its simplicity: Every line, every gesture, furthers the narrative and keeps the film propulsive. Furiosa is intentionally slower and less streamlined: It is meant to be a more in-depth experience, meant to take us on a journey of hatred, anger and vengeance that frustrates any resolution: she burns with fury and waits, and waits, and waits, and moves her way up the ranks, and waits... and then she finds something good and this changes her course, to look for something more than the vengeance that has consumed her. Like Ben-Hur, it is a tale of vengeance gestating for a long time... and like Ben-Hur, any consummation of that passion is ultimately cheap and hollow. It is only by looking at people like Jack or Max (or, at the end of the day, Dementus) that she is able to truly remember what has been lost to her, and what is worth fighting for. The visual effects are a lot more noticeable this time around, and while I do think the photography is quite good... it's no John Seale, now is it? Chris Hemsworth is a revelation: I can't remember the last time I felt such revulsion as I did whenever Dementus was on screen. It doesn't measure up to Fury Road, but Miller doesn't attempt that impossible task. This is something else. It's a horror movie rooted in a fear for a good woman's soul. It's a vengeance thriller tempered by kindness and love. It's a large scale epic of warring nations that Hollywood has rarely ever attempted before. In the creatively bankrupt world of modern Hollywood cinema, George Miller has made a classical journey of a hero who is always on the verge of losing her soul... and at the end of Fury Road, solidly rights her course. By the way, this was 2 and a half hours long and I was so in tune with this movie that I figured there was another forty minutes to go when the end credits hit. How often does *that* happen?
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Post by Martin Stett on May 31, 2024 2:55:28 GMT
By the way, I want to mention that Furiosa's goodness is what changes Max in Fury Road: "Do you want that thing off your face?" is the first time he isn't treated as a thing, and that selflessness and goodness is what inspires him to lead the charge back to the Citadel. I like how this movie has her in a similar position of being self-centered before the goodness of others makes her believe in hope for a different future.
Every decision of a character "doing the right thing" in Fury Road is anchored in somebody treating them as more than "a thing." Nux's sacrifice is because Capable chose not to snitch on him. Capable is in that position because Furiosa is risking everything for her and the other women. Max becomes a hero because of the actions of Furiosa showing him what goodness is. And somewhere, before the movie starts, Furiosa was inspired to free the women. Stuff like this is what sequels and prequels were made for: the presence of a good continuation makes the original story *stronger.*
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Post by Pasquale on Jun 16, 2024 18:53:46 GMT
Perfect.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Jun 19, 2024 6:33:55 GMT
Doesn’t reach the heights of Fury Road obviously, but I was never expecting it to, and this was still awesome, so who cares.
One of the things I thought was interesting about it was how much the music seemed to take more of a backseat, whereas in Fury Road it felt like more of a driving force. Didn’t necessarily take away from the experience for me, though I’d say it is part of what makes Fury Road a bit more of an adrenaline rush.
I appreciate how it’s a distinct piece of work from not just Fury Road, but also The Road Warrior. Both of those films build to extended, climactic set pieces, but this doesn’t exactly lead to a traditional climax (Miller puts the biggest chase sequence in the middle of the movie). Instead, it kind of purposely downshifts by the end and becomes more character-focused. I’ve seen some people complain that the ending is anti-climactic, but I’d say the way in which the conclusion sort of deflates the film is part of the point, and appropriately underlines how the film thematizes the idea of vengeance as a futile enterprise.
I also like how Miller establishes a storytelling framework similar to The Road Warrior’s by bookending it with voiceover narration that gives it a mythic quality – the narration is delivered years after the events we're watching, and so we’re invited to think of the film as a legend happening in real time. Like The Road Warrior, it presents itself as an act of storytelling. Fury Road also has some voiceover narration, but I don’t recall it engaging in the same sort of “mythmaking” mode of storytelling.
As far as the performances, this is the best Hemsworth has ever been. ATJ isn’t quite as memorable as Theron, though I still liked her, and part of it might be that she has less dialogue (?), plus the fact that she doesn’t show up until a good chunk of the way into the movie. I’m also ready to see Tom Burke in more things. Aside from this, I only remember seeing him in the CB Strike series, Mank, and The Souvenir, but he has a terrific screen presence and there’s just a cool movie-star quality to him.
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Post by JangoB on Jun 24, 2024 17:50:08 GMT
What took me aback (in a great way) was how heavy this ended up being. It's the most nihilistic blockbuster in forever, not because Miller is a nihilist (from what I can gather, he's anything but) but because he depicts his imagined nihilistic world of The Wasteland in the most honest way possible. "There is no hope" indeed. If Fury Road was about the exhilarating possibility of breaking out of that world, Furiosa is about living in it. Fury Road was blood-pumping, Furiosa is blood-curdling. I think ultimately this may be the underlying reason for its dismissal by the mass audiences: it's an incredible portrayal of The Wasteland - with the titular Furiosa serving as Miller's mythical vessel to tell that broader tale - but as epic as it is, it's also quite tragic and not really fun. Now, to me that's the film's virtue, and also a terrific way to distinguish it from the other entries of this franchise... but I can kind of understand why those looking for a good time at the movies weren't really flocking to it. Because it's not a good time at the movies. It's a harsh, brutal and uncompromising time at the movies. For Furiosa herself hope comes later. For us it came in the 2015 masterpiece. And the new film is all about the long and painful road to it. Yes, the action is often eye-popping, the world-building astonishing, Miller's creativity limitless. But the main surprise for me is just how powerful the film is. It may not be as great as Fury Road but it's still pretty damn great as its own thing.
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Aug 3, 2024 21:20:41 GMT
man, the first half was so boring and the 2nd half was so riveting. It does compare poorly with Fury Road because it's much longer, much more plot-driven, has less action, and I'm sorry but Anya's Furiosa is less compelling than any of the mains in Miller's 2015 masterpiece.
One thing I loved about the simplicity of Fury Road's plot was that it allowed for more organic worldbuilding that left gaps and left you wanting more -- it existed on the periphery to supplement the adrenaline-pumping action but never slowed down the proceedings. Conversely, the worldbuilding in Furiosa is much more typical A-to-B "and then this happened" type-storytelling that made especially that first act (essentially an extended prologue) a real slog. And Furiosa is remarkably underdeveloped as a character in that first act which really belongs to Dementus and his hammy shenanigans (and btw it wasn't until Hemsworth settled into the background that he became an entertaining supporting character for me, because man that first act was too much Dementus). So when Anya does finally show up you feel like you know practically nothing about her character beyond the absolute basics: she's driven by revenge and wants to get home. And given she doesn't show up until like 60+ minutes in... that's just not enough.
Also, again in a 150-minute movie I'm boggled by how little time is spent on developing Furiosa's relationship with Jack. It's blink and you'll miss it. Apart from their driving scenes together, they share like one bonding moment and that's it. While I still think the 2nd half is much stronger (and exciting) than the first, it could've been stronger if that relationship was better explored.
Where the film excels most is the action. I was a bit worried when the first big actionpiece was that over-the-top and oddly music-less skirmish with the Mortifiers. Very bizarre sequence. Creative, but doesn't translate well to screen and a far cry from the gritty gnashing and crashing metal of Fury Road (partly because the stakes feel so low in comparison), and again... where was the music?? There's like this rhythmic thrumming beat in the background that never builds to anything. My heartrate actually lowered during that scene... That said, all the other action scenes were excellent and approaching the greatness Fury Road. I love that we got to see the Bullet Farm and Gastown, and I like that Dementus finally gets to feel menacing in the backstretch, and I loved the surreal/ambiguous conclusion courtesy of History Man.
I'm glad Miller got to make it, but it doesn't have that same excitement factor of Fury Road and I'm not surprised it struck out at the BO (the bad WOM from the trailers was souring the mood before it even came out). I wish that first half was more Furiosa and less Dementus, and that relationship between Furiosa and Jack was better developed. And maybe scrap or significantly shorten the Mortifier chase -- waste of time in a 150-minute movie, especially if you're going to show a montage of the "40-day war" instead of any actual warring, presumably for budget reasons or time constraints. Fury Road was all killer no filler.
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