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Post by JangoB on Feb 21, 2024 16:43:08 GMT
--- NOTE --- This poll is about the nominating stage, as in: what would the BP lineup look like under the old 5-movie system. Just to avoid confusion.
The 2014 results are in and can be seen above. The movie that caused the most doubts was The Theory of Everything. The one that got close was American Sniper.
And now for 2013!
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Post by JangoB on Feb 21, 2024 16:56:10 GMT
A bit of a toughie...
- 12 Years a Slave - American Hustle - Dallas Buyers Club - Gravity - Nebraska
Yeah... 12YAS, American Hustle and Gravity are obvious but then it gets hard. I went with Nebraska based on its nice nomination spread and the Academy's love for Payne (especially with such an easy-to-like movie) and then I actually think Dallas Buyers Club might've been the one. Captain Phillips's pre-announcement haul was the strongest but it missing not only Director but also Actor (when both Greengrass and Hanks got in everywhere else) seems like a red flag, while Wolf was probably overall too divisive. On the other hand, DBC getting a Screenplay nomination over something like Inside Llewyn Davis and an Editing nomination over Thelma Schoonmaker is kind of a big deal. The fact that the movie went on to win 3 Oscars only proves that it had a lot of support. AMPAS going hard for a basic message movie like it wouldn't surprise me at all.
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Post by stephen on Feb 21, 2024 17:06:15 GMT
A bit of a toughie... - 12 Years a Slave - American Hustle - Dallas Buyers Club - Gravity - Nebraska Yeah... 12YAS, American Hustle and Gravity are obvious but then it gets hard. I went with Nebraska based on its nice nomination spread and the Academy's love for Payne (especially with such an easy-to-like movie) and then I actually think Dallas Buyers Club might've been the one. Captain Phillips's pre-announcement haul was the strongest but it missing not only Director but also Actor (when both Greengrass and Hanks got in everywhere else) seems like a red flag, while Wolf was probably overall too divisive. On the other hand, DBC getting a Screenplay nomination over something like Inside Llewyn Davis and an Editing nomination over Thelma Schoonmaker is kind of a big deal. The fact that the movie went on to win 3 Oscars only proves that it had a lot of support. AMPAS going hard for a basic message movie like it wouldn't surprise me at all. Yeah, this feels right. Scorsese swaps out for Vallee in Director but Dallas Buyers Club is overall stronger in Picture.
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Feb 21, 2024 17:41:48 GMT
A bit of a toughie... - 12 Years a Slave - American Hustle - Dallas Buyers Club - Gravity - Nebraska Yeah... 12YAS, American Hustle and Gravity are obvious but then it gets hard. I went with Nebraska based on its nice nomination spread and the Academy's love for Payne (especially with such an easy-to-like movie) and then I actually think Dallas Buyers Club might've been the one. Captain Phillips's pre-announcement haul was the strongest but it missing not only Director but also Actor (when both Greengrass and Hanks got in everywhere else) seems like a red flag, while Wolf was probably overall too divisive. On the other hand, DBC getting a Screenplay nomination over something like Inside Llewyn Davis and an Editing nomination over Thelma Schoonmaker is kind of a big deal. The fact that the movie went on to win 3 Oscars only proves that it had a lot of support. AMPAS going hard for a basic message movie like it wouldn't surprise me at all. Yeah, that 5. I think Her and The Wolf of Wall Street could've had stronger arguments if they came out a bit earlier. The former just so it could get more eyes on it and build a bit more steam, the latter to get past the first wave of pearl-clutching that came with its release.
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Post by Billy_Costigan on Feb 21, 2024 17:50:12 GMT
I have The Wolf of Wall Street over Dallas Buyers Club.
Dallas Buyers Club only had 1 more nom, but it was Makeup and Hairstyling. Director is stronger than Editing and I think Thelma was 6th (or closer to a nom than Vallee was for Direction).
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Post by stabcaesar on Feb 21, 2024 18:31:52 GMT
12 Years a Slave American Hustle Gravity Nebraska The Wolf of Wall Street
Difficult to decide between The Wolf of Wall Street and Dallas Buyers Club. Jonah Hill's surprise nomination makes me feel that The Wolf of Wall Street was stronger by a hair.
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Post by stephen on Feb 21, 2024 21:25:46 GMT
I have The Wolf of Wall Street over Dallas Buyers Club.
Dallas Buyers Club only had 1 more nom, but it was Makeup and Hairstyling. Director is stronger than Editing and I think Thelma was 6th (or closer to a nom than Vallee was for Direction).
Dallas Buyers Club won three Oscars to Wolf's zero, though. And it cannot be understated how divisive the latter was at the time, and how much everyone was riding high on the McConaissance. I'd argue that even Her was ahead of Wolf. It didn't get any acting nods but it reasonably wasn't expected to (Phoenix was a year off from his The Master nomination and at the height of his not-giving-a-shit phase, and Johansson didn't have a prayer of getting in for a voice performance), and it comfortably won Original Screenplay.
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Post by rhodoraonline on Feb 22, 2024 1:25:42 GMT
Wow this is a tough one. Slave, Hustle, & Gravity are obvi no-brainers. Her & Philomena definitely sitting it out. I feel like the remaining 4 of this line up would have duked it out for the remainder of the spots (yes, even Captain Phillips for how strong and popular it was with cultural impact), with Wolf having the most comfortable chance of making it in as the Scorcese movie. I chose Captain Phillips for the last spot just cuz no one else seems to be picking it.
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Post by Billy_Costigan on Feb 22, 2024 23:28:18 GMT
I have The Wolf of Wall Street over Dallas Buyers Club.
Dallas Buyers Club only had 1 more nom, but it was Makeup and Hairstyling. Director is stronger than Editing and I think Thelma was 6th (or closer to a nom than Vallee was for Direction).
Dallas Buyers Club won three Oscars to Wolf's zero, though. And it cannot be understated how divisive the latter was at the time, and how much everyone was riding high on the McConaissance. I'd argue that even Her was ahead of Wolf. It didn't get any acting nods but it reasonably wasn't expected to (Phoenix was a year off from his The Master nomination and at the height of his not-giving-a-shit phase, and Johansson didn't have a prayer of getting in for a voice performance), and it comfortably won Original Screenplay. I don't think eventual wins matter as much at the nomination stage. The narrative is completely different. Voting was over before McConaughey won the Globe and before True Dectective premiered. (Leo also won the Globe). We didn't know what was going to happen yet. Many were predicting Ejiofor at the time. The Great Gastby wasn't a stronger contender because it won 2 Oscars two months later. Wolf was more divisive with critics than the industry. It was just a late contender. Hill was the big surprise that showed strength. Scorsese landed DGA and BAFTA and would have carried it into the top 5 imo. Best Director correlates with Best Picture more often than Best Editing does. I don't see any argument for Her without director or acting noms.
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