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Post by futuretrunks on Feb 13, 2024 17:44:58 GMT
Does she need to work with some A-list auteurs in a lead capacity? I feel like Lynne Ramsay and Leos Carax are just too small potatoes to effect a turnaround for her. She needs something like the Coens, Fincher, Nolan, Villeneuve, Gerwig, etc.
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Post by pupdurcs on Feb 13, 2024 17:59:59 GMT
Lawrence's career is fine. I don't think it needs fixing. In the past 3 years she's had praised performance in a Best Picture Oscar nominated movie that was a huge streaming hit and got her a Golden Globe nomination ( Don't Look Up). Played the lead in a critically well liked indie movie that got an Oscar nomination for her co-star ( Causeway). And was the lead in a hit mainstream comedy that grossed 90 million dollars world-wide off a 45 million dollar budget. And it got her Golden Globe and Critics Choice nominations ( No Hard Feelings).
And she's got auteur led projects by the likes of Paolo Sorrentino and Luca Gugadagnino coming up.
What more can you ask for? She's no longer flavor of the month (but that status never lasts, particularly for women), but she's had a solid return back from her string of poor projects in the mid 2010's ( Mother, Red Sparrow, X-Men: Dark Phoenix) that made people turn on her a little bit. She took a short break and came back ok. I think her career is in as decent a place as she could currently hope for. She's no longer going to be up for an Oscar for everything she does, but I'd argue that was over-the-top even when it was happening for stuff like Joy. She'll have to work harder to get those Oscar nominations now, as she should. The competition is tougher and the David O Russell easy ride days are over.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Feb 13, 2024 18:04:56 GMT
Her career doesn’t need to be fixed. You really fail to understand that most major actor’s careers don’t have to fit into the box that you prefer for them. And a lot of them may actually want different careers than you envision for them.
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Post by Nikan on Feb 13, 2024 18:08:19 GMT
Work with Lanthimos. No matter who you are; Robbie, Lawrence, Gladstone... just let him turn you into one of his broken toys and everybody will say that was great (this is not a jab at Stone at all... just the general film community's vibe with this guy and his gals).
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Post by pupdurcs on Feb 13, 2024 18:10:59 GMT
Work with Lanthimos. No matter who you are; Robbie, Lawrence, Gladstone... just let him turn you into one of his broken toys and everybody will say that was great (this is not a jab at Stone at all... just the general film community's vibe with this guy and his gals). Stone has got Lanthimos under lock and key. I'm not sure she'll ever let him work with another actress in her age range/generation, unless there is a role in that project for her as well.
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Post by Allenism on Feb 13, 2024 18:13:55 GMT
I wouldn't, it should continue its death spiral.
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Post by futuretrunks on Feb 13, 2024 18:28:03 GMT
Lawrence's career is fine. I don't think it needs fixing. In the past 3 years she's had praised performance in a Best Picture Oscar nominated movie that was a huge streaming hit and got her a Golden Globe nomination ( Don't Look Up). Played the lead in a critically well liked indie movie that got an Oscar nomination for her co-star ( Causeway). And was the lead in a hit mainstream comedy that grossed 90 million dollars world-wide off a 45 million dollar budget. And it got her Golden Globe and Critics Choice nominations ( No Hard Feelings).And she's got auteur led projects by the likes of Paolo Sorrentino and Luca Gugadagnino coming up. What more can you ask for? She's no longer flavor of the month (but that status never lasts, particularly for women), but she's had a solid return back from her string of poor projects in the mid 2010's ( Mother, Red Sparrow, X-Men: Dark Phoenix) that made people turn on her a little bit. She took a short break and came back ok. I think her career is in as decent a place as she could currently hope for. She's no longer going to be up for an Oscar for everything she does, but I'd argue that was over-the-top even when it was happening for stuff like Joy. She'll have to work harder to get those Oscar nominations now, as she should. The competition is tougher and the David O Russell easy ride days are over. I'm not speaking in terms of Lawrence's relation to a general idea of professional success. Obviously she's blown past that over a decade ago. But I don't think I'm discussing her in terms of needing to be a perpetual flavor of the month; more that once you are successful, you're given reign to make more decisions, which reveal taste, ambition, perseverance, etc. and it's something you can be judged on. I don't personally think Causeway and No Hard Feelings were wise choices. And where are these Sorrentino and Guadagnino films? I feel like I haven't heard a peep in ages.
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Post by paulgallo on Feb 13, 2024 18:47:29 GMT
I have the feeling her choices were never great in the first place. Looking at the phase after her breakthrough with Winter's Bone the relevant films she did were four Hunger Games films and three DOR films. That was the perfect mix of blockbusters to build her stardom on and critically acclaimed work that got her awards recognition. Since her franchise ended and she can't just rely on starring in the next DOR movie any more she didn't really show a knack for picking good roles so I don't expect her to make better choices in the future.
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Post by pupdurcs on Feb 13, 2024 18:49:29 GMT
Lawrence's career is fine. I don't think it needs fixing. In the past 3 years she's had praised performance in a Best Picture Oscar nominated movie that was a huge streaming hit and got her a Golden Globe nomination ( Don't Look Up). Played the lead in a critically well liked indie movie that got an Oscar nomination for her co-star ( Causeway). And was the lead in a hit mainstream comedy that grossed 90 million dollars world-wide off a 45 million dollar budget. And it got her Golden Globe and Critics Choice nominations ( No Hard Feelings).And she's got auteur led projects by the likes of Paolo Sorrentino and Luca Gugadagnino coming up. What more can you ask for? She's no longer flavor of the month (but that status never lasts, particularly for women), but she's had a solid return back from her string of poor projects in the mid 2010's ( Mother, Red Sparrow, X-Men: Dark Phoenix) that made people turn on her a little bit. She took a short break and came back ok. I think her career is in as decent a place as she could currently hope for. She's no longer going to be up for an Oscar for everything she does, but I'd argue that was over-the-top even when it was happening for stuff like Joy. She'll have to work harder to get those Oscar nominations now, as she should. The competition is tougher and the David O Russell easy ride days are over. I'm not speaking in terms of Lawrence's relation to a general idea of professional success. Obviously she's blown past that over a decade ago. But I don't think I'm discussing her in terms of needing to be a perpetual flavor of the month; more that once you are successful, you're given reign to make more decisions, which reveal taste, ambition, perseverance, etc. and it's something you can be judged on. I don't personally think Causeway and No Hard Feelings were wise choices. And where are these Sorrentino and Guadagnino films? I feel like I haven't heard a peep in ages. Lawrence is middlebrow in taste, talent and appeal. Always has been. David O Russell movies, The Hunger Games, X-Men, Passengers....her career has been built upon doing easily digestible, crowd pleasing stuff. The rare instances she tried go go "edgy" or off-brand, it caused her career to implode and people to turn on her ( Mother, Red Sparrow). Causeway is as edgy an indie type movie as someone like Lawrence should go. Meaning not too edgy or off the beaten path. No Hard Feelings is on brand for Lawrence, and helped remind audiences why they liked her and found her so relatable in the first place. I think it was a good decision on for her to do that. She's basically doing what she's always done with her recent choices. I think she's currently in production on one of the auteur led projects.
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Post by futuretrunks on Feb 13, 2024 18:53:08 GMT
I have the feeling her choices were never great in the first place. Looking at the phase after her breakthrough with Winter's Bone the relevant films she did were four Hunger Games films and three DOR films. That was the perfect mix of blockbusters to build her stardom on and critically acclaimed work that got her awards recognition. Since her franchise ended and she can't just rely on starring in the next DOR movie any more she didn't really show a knack for picking good roles so I don't expect her to make better choices in the future. That's what I think happens unless something gets "fixed". The combination of two franchises (Hunger Games and X-Men) with O. Russell's momentum at the start of the 10s is a stark contrast to no franchises and no O. Russell. Stuff like Passengers, Serena, Red Sparrow etc. has nothing counteracting them anymore.
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Post by futuretrunks on Feb 13, 2024 18:58:02 GMT
I'm not speaking in terms of Lawrence's relation to a general idea of professional success. Obviously she's blown past that over a decade ago. But I don't think I'm discussing her in terms of needing to be a perpetual flavor of the month; more that once you are successful, you're given reign to make more decisions, which reveal taste, ambition, perseverance, etc. and it's something you can be judged on. I don't personally think Causeway and No Hard Feelings were wise choices. And where are these Sorrentino and Guadagnino films? I feel like I haven't heard a peep in ages. Lawrence is middlebrow in taste, talent and appeal. Always has been. David O Russell movies, The Hunger Games, X-Men, Passengers....her career has been built upon doing easily digestible, crowd pleasing stuff. The rare instances she tried go go "edgy" or off-brand, it caused her career to implode and people to turn on her ( Mother, Red Sparrow). Causeway is as edgy an indie type movie as someone like Lawrence should go. Meaning not too edgy or off the beaten path. No Hard Feelings is on brand for Lawrence, and helped remind audiences why they liked her and found her so relatable in the first place. I think it was a good decision on for her to do that. She's basically doing what she's always done with her recent choices. I think she's currently in production on one of the auteur led projects. NHF wasn't a failure in the sense that it made money and didn't have an awful reception, but it's still so incredibly generic. It's not like a Wedding Crashers or Old School or something.
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Post by paulgallo on Feb 13, 2024 19:02:27 GMT
I'm not speaking in terms of Lawrence's relation to a general idea of professional success. Obviously she's blown past that over a decade ago. But I don't think I'm discussing her in terms of needing to be a perpetual flavor of the month; more that once you are successful, you're given reign to make more decisions, which reveal taste, ambition, perseverance, etc. and it's something you can be judged on. I don't personally think Causeway and No Hard Feelings were wise choices. And where are these Sorrentino and Guadagnino films? I feel like I haven't heard a peep in ages. Lawrence is middlebrow in taste Exactly. I still remember her mentioning how she turned off Phantom Thread after five minutes because it was boring.
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Post by stabcaesar on Feb 13, 2024 19:13:02 GMT
Lawrence is middlebrow in taste Exactly. I still remember her mentioning how she turned off Phantom Thread after five minutes because it was boring. Which is hilarious considering that she did the ultimate nothing movie called Causeway.
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Post by futuretrunks on Feb 13, 2024 19:21:28 GMT
Should she consider doing a TV series? Maybe a role in BLL Season 3 or some kind of Soderbergh experiment?
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Post by pupdurcs on Feb 13, 2024 19:27:35 GMT
Should she consider doing a TV series? Maybe a role in BLL Season 3 or some kind of Soderbergh experiment? I mean, yes, she should consider TV. But that's a given. TV has the best roles for women, by far. No Soderbergh experiments though. Not Big Little Lies Season 3 either. She'll be up against too many veteran actresses that are better than her. Considering her age, she should look at what someone like Michelle Williams did with Fosse/Verdon, for which Williams won an Emmy.
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 13, 2024 19:30:14 GMT
Nothing .......Kind of love her a good bit.......just loved her in No Hard Feelings so maybe do more comedy..........don't know what you people are talking about in acting threads tbh......
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Post by futuretrunks on Feb 13, 2024 19:32:48 GMT
Should she consider doing a TV series? Maybe a role in BLL Season 3 or some kind of Soderbergh experiment? I mean, yes, she should consider TV. But that's a given. TV has the best roles for women, by far. No Soderbergh experiments though. Not Big Little Lies Season 3 either. She'll be up against too many veteran actresses that are better than her. Considering her age, she should look at what someone like Michelle Williams did with Fosse/Verdon, for which Williams won an Emmy. Sharon Stone was really good in Mosaic, I must say.
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Post by pupdurcs on Feb 13, 2024 19:52:37 GMT
I mean, yes, she should consider TV. But that's a given. TV has the best roles for women, by far. No Soderbergh experiments though. Not Big Little Lies Season 3 either. She'll be up against too many veteran actresses that are better than her. Considering her age, she should look at what someone like Michelle Williams did with Fosse/Verdon, for which Williams won an Emmy. Sharon Stone was really good in Mosaic, I must say. But it did nothing for Sharon Stone's career. You can do something interesting and artistically challenging on TV and still have it give your career a boost or momentum. That's why I'm not advocating for Soderbergh experiments. He always ends up fine because they never stop giving him money to "experiment", but some of the actors could be better off spending time on a project that moves their career forward.
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Post by futuretrunks on Feb 13, 2024 20:00:35 GMT
Sharon Stone was really good in Mosaic, I must say. But it did nothing for Sharon Stone's career. You can do something interesting and artistically challenging on TV and still have it give your career a boost or momentum. That's why I'm not advocating for Soderbergh experiments. He always ends up fine because they never stop giving him money to "experiment", but some of the actors could be better off spending time on a project that moves their career forward. True, but Sharon is old. Lawrence needs to be in stuff that's undeniably good quality-wise, rather than just moderately successful financially. I have major issues with The Curse, but it feels like something that would get Emma Stone more work from big auteurs than Lawrence would from a sub-Bad Teacher throwaway comedy.
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Post by mhynson27 on Feb 13, 2024 22:10:33 GMT
JLaw isn't really middlebrow anymore, she hosted a screening for The Zone of Interest.
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Post by theycallmemrfish on Feb 14, 2024 3:55:30 GMT
Host an Only Fans with me.
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Post by stabcaesar on Feb 14, 2024 4:29:02 GMT
JLaw isn't really middlebrow anymore, she hosted a screening for The Zone of Interest. Either she suddenly developed highbrow taste, or she got paid for hosting the screening. I lean toward the latter.
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Post by urbanpatrician on Feb 14, 2024 4:57:02 GMT
By claiming she's middlebrow....how much more high brow is her contemporaries/generational counterparts?
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