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Post by Nikan on Feb 4, 2024 22:57:21 GMT
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Post by stephen on Feb 4, 2024 23:58:20 GMT
6.5 seems right. It's pretty and well-acted (but not by the Oscar winner), but damn it draaaaaaaaags.
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Post by countjohn on Feb 5, 2024 0:07:02 GMT
3/10
Mitchum in this is one of the worst miscasting I can think of for a good actor and John Mills is doing Simple Jack level shit and somehow won an Oscar for it. The novel also had no business being stretched to epic length, Lean was just reaching to try and top Lawrence and Zhivago. He should have taken it as an opportunity to do another small scale 90 minute romance like Brief Encounter or Summertime and cast it better. As a result it's so slow and boring.
Sarah Miles is good and it has Lean's usual cinematography but yuck at pretty much everything else about it.
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Post by Nikan on Feb 5, 2024 0:18:49 GMT
Damn he won an Oscar for that?  I mean, it probably was a big deal for it's time I don't know... loved Mitchum in it though, and the idea that he's objectively the most "good" guy in a movie like lmaooo... and I mean, it did drag, but I wonder how that aspect of it will fare on a re-watch (cause that issue usually get resolved for me on re-watches since I know this time where we're going, and this wants do address a lot of things while being pretty much reflective on all of them... it's ambitious). The worst showstopper was this sudden introduction of that local resistance hero, but once the british lover "stop" them it all made sense and added this political dimension to what Rosy has done and the symbolism of the love triangle and how what she did seems more horrible somewhat (like a treason to her people), but then the town folks show THEIR teeth and wow bro, it was so emotionally complex and SO beautiful to look at... I'll settle for an 8 now. Can not BELIEVE RT's score btw... who are they countjohn?  |
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Post by Martin Stett on Feb 5, 2024 0:49:56 GMT
3/10
Everything Countjohn said
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Post by finniussnrub on Feb 5, 2024 1:04:32 GMT
9.5. Completely fine with being the minority on this one.
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Post by JangoB on Feb 5, 2024 1:13:26 GMT
9/10
When I was younger, I wasn't a fan because I thought the scope and the length dwarfed the intimate love story. I've since changed my mind - now I think that the scope and the length place the intimate love story on a higher plane, giving it a sense of almost cosmic vitality. It's similar to what The Tree of Life does when it juxtaposes average human experiences with the creation of the universe. The romance is small and simple but the passions brewing within it are just as vast as Freddie Young's breathtaking vistas (I hate that The Conformist is also 1970 and that I can't give Young my Cinematography win). Now, I haven't seen it in a while so I don't know how a rewatch may affect my opinion... but right now it's what it is.
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Post by Kings_Requiem on Feb 5, 2024 1:52:48 GMT
5
One of those overblown old-fashioned movies that used to get made constantly and everyone would fawn over them like they were the greatest thing since sliced bread. Time isn't very kind to them as you find out that they're actually just slogs.
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Post by Javi on Feb 5, 2024 2:38:23 GMT
I think it's slightly underrated, though not as much as A Passage to India which is a beauty. This one is a bit of a slog, and John Mills is quite atrocious, but it has its good spots. 6.5?
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Feb 5, 2024 3:11:40 GMT
6.5.
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Post by countjohn on Feb 5, 2024 3:17:18 GMT
5One of those overblown old-fashioned movies that used to get made constantly and everyone would fawn over them like they were the greatest thing since sliced bread. Time isn't very kind to them as you find out that they're actually just slogs. Well in this case the movie was aggressively panned even at the time and Lean was so hurt by the response he said he'd never make another movie. |
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Post by ibbi on Feb 5, 2024 19:46:12 GMT
I haven't watched it in probably 20 years so I can't give many thoughts, but I liked it without loving it. Love the photography, and Miles, and what I recall as a relatively sparse use of dialogue, and I especially love that when Tropic Thunder came out and 'you never go full retard' went viral, Ryan's Daughter was the film you had to have seen to slap that argument down.
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Post by Nikan on Feb 5, 2024 19:50:25 GMT
I haven't watched it in probably 20 years so I can't give many thoughts, but I liked it without loving it. Love the photography, and Miles, and what I recall as a relatively sparse use of dialogue, and I especially love that when Tropic Thunder came out and 'you never go full retard' went viral, Ryan's Daughter was the film you had to have seen to slap that argument down. 6 y'all should (re)consider the Mitch. |
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I mean, it probably was a big deal for it's time I don't know... loved Mitchum in it though, and the idea that he's objectively the most "good" guy in a movie like lmaooo...
