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Post by TylerDeneuve on Feb 4, 2024 16:55:48 GMT
My curiosity got the better of me, pacinoyes .  Which of these virtuoso actresses whom Almodóvar courted for his first English-language feature and serve as muses to Todd Haynes do you prefer as a performer? |
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 4, 2024 17:48:18 GMT
Unfair......  No one is going to win a poll with me over Blanchett - except Huppert / Streep ....like I feel she's hovering around that upper tier class .......but I will say those 2 would also dovetail in a way other greats might not........like I'm not sure Blanchett wouldn't clash with Rowlands if you could pair them at peaks ........or Liv Ullman ........but Moore plays at acting like Blanchett does (Huppert too as I've said before) so I'm quite sure Blanchett would be sparked by Moore .......not clash but mesh.........they would be a great acting "team" - there's almost no acting teams anymore but you could picture these 2 playing off each other across much varied subject matter and genres - period pieces, comedy, heavy drama, you could picture them as friends, enemies, rivals......... I think Blanchett would admire her working relationships too btw - like Almodóvar, Haynes, circle the same artistic orbit as both - so it isn't just that they could have overlapped in roles played but also in ideas and sensibility........I am sure Blanchett thinks playing Clarice Starling and Lila Crane is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more quirky interesting - after it's been played - than some of the things her "peers" do........I think Blanchett probably sees the angles in Moore's choices as being closer to her own interests I recently said Kidman would have sold a wig (kidding, kidding) to play Moore's May December role well these 2 would have killed to play far less obvious ones.......I think Blanchet playing Where'd You Go, Bernadette - which is a great performance in an unsuccessful film is her attempt to go "Julianne Moore."........Julianne Moore would have been entirely, possibly wonderfully odd - and sexy - in Nightmare Alley - which is odd because Moore is many years older than Blanchett...........like I think THEY'D have fun talking about such quirky sensibilty cross-connection  |
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Post by Nikan on Feb 4, 2024 18:17:20 GMT
Doing us dirty aren't ya?... In terms of filmography; Moore wins. That's Magnolia/ Boogie Nights, The Big Lebowski and Safe* over Tar, Coffee and Cigarettes, Carol and The Aviator perhaps (not counting LOTR as "Cate Blanchett" movies because come on )... Performances-wise; does anything that she's done top Lydia Tar? or Jude Quinn for that matter? Anyways, going with Julianne cause the gap shouldn't be that much whatever the result. 90s-risen queens and all. *and I forgot about Children of Men. Girl deserve more than only 5 come on people |
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Post by TylerDeneuve on Feb 4, 2024 19:36:36 GMT
I'm quite sure Blanchett would be sparked by Moore .......not clash but mesh.........they would be a great acting "team" period pieces, comedy, enemies, rivals......... Indeed!  |
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Post by Javi on Feb 4, 2024 20:14:16 GMT
Damn, this is hard, Tyler  Sentimentally, I have to go with Blanchett - I'd never seen a face so beautiful or cinematic like Cate's in Elizabeth - yes I was young and impressionable - and then she followed that up with The Talented Mr. Ripley (one of my favorite movies), The Gift, Bandits, Veronica Guerin. She was GALADRIEL for gods sake. I thought she could do anything and she had that mystery to her. Then came a long winter of discontent that lasted almost 20 years where I couldn't love her in anything as much as I tried. She had become a different sort of actress, a fidgety sort. But then the 2020s come about and she gives us Mrs. America and her all-time best performance in TAR and I... well... you know what, once a favorite, always a favorite. I love this woman. Moore is much more trustworthy I feel, good or bad, I know she'll be honest whatever she does. I rewatched Safe a few weeks ago and I can't believe what she did there (the film, too, became one of my favorites). Safe is her TAR. She's like the expression of 90s genius  Add Short Cuts, Vanya, Boogie Nights, End of the Affair to all that and you have the most impressive acting resume of anyone that decade. The 00s got to a brilliant start too--especially Far From Heaven. And even though things got wonky after that I loved her in Children of Men, Blindness, The Kids Are All Right. Moving in Still Alice and hilarious in Maps to the Stars. And now May December. I feel like she ultimately may have a bigger number of great performances than Cate does. Tie?  |
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 4, 2024 22:53:49 GMT
I'm quite sure Blanchett would be sparked by Moore .......not clash but mesh.........they would be a great acting "team" period pieces, comedy, enemies, rivals......... Indeed! I quite like the way Moore says "him" 3 times in consecutive lines and each time it seems to represent some other word based on her inflection, tone, mannerisms: "that prick"...........'the liar"........."your husband"  |
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Post by TylerDeneuve on Feb 8, 2024 4:36:42 GMT
I think Blanchett would admire her working relationships too btw - like Almodóvar, Haynes, circle the same artistic orbit as both This is definitely true... It made me think of the fact that Sandy Powell cites them as her favorite actresses to work with (from an interview with British GQ) - "On the subject of her favourite actors to work with, Powell treads carefully... "Cate Blanchett is great. Julianne Moore...” she lists, quietly. “I mean, Julianne and Cate, really. Julianne is great. She was pregnant during the filming of Far From Heaven and she was getting bigger. She was also three months pregnant at the beginning of filming and five by the end. It was her second child and she said, ‘Don’t worry, I won’t get very big. She was wrong,’” says Powell, laughing, taking a sip of her tea. “I had her in a girdle until the last minute, when she couldn’t possibly bear it any more. She’s a trooper. It’s easy to make Cate and Julianne look good."" Powell designed the costumes for The End of the Affair and Carol - Moore and Blanchett wore the same pair of coral earrings in their respective films. (I feel like I'm the only person who would notice such a thing! )   |
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Post by TylerDeneuve on Feb 10, 2024 2:24:28 GMT
Do you remember when Queen Julianne was President of the Venice jury that awarded Queen Cate her second Volpi Cup (for Tár)?   |
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Post by MsMovieStar on Feb 10, 2024 8:46:01 GMT
Oh honey, I'd have two Oscars, four BAFTAs, four Golden Globes, and nominations for Emmys & Tony & Ponies if Cate Blanchett hadn't stolen my career!
Julianne should have got the Oscar for the Hours, but then again she probably wasn't as friendly with Harvey Weinstein as <cough> Nicole <cough>
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Post by TylerDeneuve on Mar 31, 2024 15:23:02 GMT
Ooh, another reason to compare them: they have both played largely hated conservative American women in much-lauded television projects. I prefer Mrs. America (some of the best television I've ever seen) to Game Change, but I think Moore easily gave the better performance... She arguably had the bigger challenge, as well, as Palin is much more famous as a political figure. For me, Blanchett as Phyllis Schlafly was her at peak all effect and no soul... I preferred every other actress on the show to Blanchett. Let's discuss!  |
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Post by pacinoyes on Mar 31, 2024 15:46:30 GMT
Ooh, another reason to compare them: they have both played largely hated conse rvative American women in much-lauded television projects. I prefer Mrs. America (some of the best television I've ever seen) to Game Change, but I think Moore easily gave the better performance... She arguably had the bigger challenge, as well, as Palin is much more famous as a political figure. For me, Blanchett as Phyllis Schlafly was her at peak all effect and no soul... I preferred every other actress on the show to Blanchett. Let's discuss! I think it's in Blanchett's Top 3 with Tar and Blue Jasmne - a genius level perf ........I also think she took a lot from this performance for TAR later tbh.........I like Moore but not that much..........also you know how I always rave how Blanchett uses her hands? Well...........Until TAR this was The Rosetta Stome of Blanchett's Handiwork Portrayals....... Apr 28, 2020 at 6:06am Post by pacinoyes on Apr 28, 2020 at 6:06am
Cate Blanchett - Mrs. America (Hulu) We just did a poll "top performances of the 2010s" and I think there was just 1 TV performance on it iirc (?). Well THIS performance is going to be on the 2020s list or else we're all in the for the best acting ever this decade that would keep this utterly amazing turn off of it. Though I guess it wouldn't be eligible since it's multiple episodes - whatever! It ranks with her very best work. I've watched episodes 1-4 twice - and I'm even more impressed and I was pretty knocked out the first time. Maybe she falls apart in the later episodes but........I doubt it. |
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Post by TylerDeneuve on Mar 31, 2024 15:52:21 GMT
pacinoyes - Oh yes, I remember how much you loved this performance when the show was airing! I just can't agree this time...  (You definitely love Blanchett more than me, too.) Blanchett's strength is in her technical prowess, Moore's is in her naturalism... In this instance, Moore infused her naturalism with technical prowess to stunning effect.
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No one is going to win a poll with me over Blanchett - except Huppert / Streep ....like I feel she's hovering around that upper tier class .......but I will say those 2 would also dovetail in a way other greats might not........like I'm not sure Blanchett wouldn't clash with Rowlands if you could pair them at peaks ........or Liv Ullman ........but Moore plays at acting like Blanchett does (Huppert too as I've said before) so I'm quite sure Blanchett would be sparked by Moore .......not clash but mesh.........they would be a great acting "team" - there's almost no acting teams anymore but you could picture these 2 playing off each other across much varied subject matter and genres - period pieces, comedy, heavy drama, you could picture them as friends, enemies, rivals.........
Add Short Cuts, Vanya, Boogie Nights, End of the Affair to all that and you have the most impressive acting resume of anyone that decade. The 00s got to a brilliant start too--especially Far From Heaven. And even though things got wonky after that I loved her in Children of Men, Blindness, The Kids Are All Right. Moving in Still Alice and hilarious in Maps to the Stars. And now May December. I feel like she ultimately may have a bigger number of great performances than Cate does.
(You definitely love Blanchett more than me, too.)