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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 2, 2024 17:11:27 GMT
I mean this in an odd, specific way - but you can take it more literally if you like: I know irl - several people that consider this the GOAT performance - ever.........and yet Naomi Watts was not nodded...........is not necessarily known to the average person immediately - though she could be..........in a movie that most people would associate with David Lynch first - if not exclusively? This never applies to men - who are always going to get the same few names regurgitated for GOAT performance - DePac, DDL, Nicholson, Brando, etc. - what is a performance you would say is like this - very famous......and very cult.........in a film that is very famous and yet.........."cult"?
Also - it is rare because it is a female who is hero & villain - sort of like Blanchett in Tar but which females almost never get to play.......
Some sort of examples in some ways anyway : Adjani in Possession? Delphine Seyrig in Jeanne Dielman?  |
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Post by stephen on Feb 2, 2024 17:16:51 GMT
This is sort of a staple for David Lynch: the dichotomy of the human condition where we get to see two sides of a woman's personality from girl next door to femme fatale. There's Sheryl Lee's Laura Palmer, Patricia Arquette's Renee/Alice from Lost Highway, Laura Dern's Nikki Grace / Sue Blue from Inland Empire (and to a certain extent, her Diane from Twin Peaks: The Return).
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Post by Archie on Feb 2, 2024 17:30:01 GMT
Both of these lovely ladies.  |
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Post by stabcaesar on Feb 2, 2024 18:12:19 GMT
Liv Ullmann in Face to Face
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 3, 2024 12:15:01 GMT
Good mentions so far .........also the performances in Persona and Carrie - Carrie in the mix of being seduced by the prom fantasty and when she snaps well innocent people die too ......hero / villain etc,  |
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Post by TheAlwaysClassy on Feb 3, 2024 15:38:53 GMT
I guess it's because they came out around the same time, but I always think of/compare her to Huppert in The Piano Teacher.
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Post by ingmarhepburn on Feb 3, 2024 15:48:05 GMT
Mia Goth (as Pearl) in Pearl (2022) is the first one coming to mind. Young naive girl (check) who dreams of becoming a star (check) turns into a psychotic, envious, cold-blooded murderer (check). Also, Rosamund Pike (as Amy Dunne) in Gone Girl (2014) In spite of her horrifying acts, the film does portray Amy through three different lenses/perspectives: 1) the victim-turned-hero to the public who was following her story by the media; 2) the femme fatale to Nick, and 3) the phychotic, calculating murderer to us, viewers |
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Post by ibbi on Feb 3, 2024 17:11:47 GMT
I guess it depends how you define CULT, but how about that woman in To Die For? No, not Illeana Douglas, for gods sake. Not Holland Taylor either. That other one. I forget her name, you know who I'm talking about.
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 4, 2024 16:27:10 GMT
` Another one - a very great performance imo - is Rebecca Hall in Christine -see link below. Another performance that starts with her having your empathy but gradually pushes the viewer away as she does all of her colleagues.......that hero / villain thing .............and also a character that is seduced by the performance aspects of her job / the camera as opposed to her "real" life
When she is alone with someone she can't really connect - only with the TV camera - her job - can she control the environment - how she is presenting herself, how people are communicating with her and her back to them............. which of course is ironic because her on camera career is out of her control but also because that shows her at her most revealingly troubled etc.  movie-awards-redux.freeforums.net/post/212945 |
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 5, 2024 0:24:00 GMT
Another personal fave - the incredible Lauren Ashley Carter in Darling (2015) - who reconstructs her past in the present and goes from innocent to delusional maniacal in a similar incremental manner with a jarring "split" in the film in its own way.......a must for people looking for Indie horror that predates the recent great performance wave we've had lately with Mia Goth, Niamh Algar, Morfydd Clark and more etc.  |
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