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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 18, 2024 7:37:40 GMT
I always bash this site - and often can guess who they'll champion (and why) - but the truth is - one time, a long time ago they atually had good content but the truth is also that Pitchfork rarely write about Rock and Roll anymore and when they do it almost always rings false anyway........ Pitchfork hasn't reviewed many of my favorite albums of the MAR era - no Speedways, they haven't covered CMAT at all, they missed Sprints until 2 days ago, NOBRO too - Les Gry-Grys never existed for them.......neither did The Exbats........... they missed Peter Perrett's re-emergence  , Westerberg's "retirement", Geoff Palmer, Brad Marino, US Power Pop (Whiffs, Reflectors, Local Drags, and UK too - More Kicks)..........The Bobby Lees in their Bellevue peak..................and they were politically daft (to say the least). They have created a faux-taste of dumbfucks - in Rock and Roll anyway - why does pacinoyes have to break these albums (or Wet Leg for that matter?) I take a lot of pride when I say a record is great on MAR - or not ..........Pitchfork just took it like a cynical right....... Have a nice Death hipster doofuses........  |
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Post by urbanpatrician on Jan 18, 2024 8:16:12 GMT
Ok..... so it'll now be called Pitchfork GQ. Just like Exxon Mobile. Disney Pixar. AFL-NFL.
Nope.... it looks like you're still stuck with Pitchfork, pacinoyes.
It seems to just need financing from a magazine with more money because Pitchfork isn't getting enough or their annual profits is declining by the year. I guess the main thing is staff layoff. I feel for them. I know it takes a certain kind of mindset to review music. I'm not sure I could do it.
Either way..... I'm hot and cold with Pitchfork. I either really agree with them, or really don't - but I can definitely see where they're coming from, they are still largely influenced by the consensus opinion on the best albums of a decade or year. Or maybe they create the consensus.... or they're part of it anyways.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 18, 2024 8:25:21 GMT
Either way..... I'm hot and cold with Pitchfork. I either really agree with them, or really don't - but I can definitely see where they're coming from, they are still largely influenced by the consensus opinion on the best albums of a decade or year. Or maybe they create the consensus.... or they're part of it anyways. Definitely at one time they created consensus - Radiohead especially............ I would say little by little in the 2000s they gave up on Rock and Rock culture .........to the point where they were way behind or missed things altogether......... Btw - the "Anna" in the comment I posted is Anna Wintour - whose Condé Nast empire - runs Pitchfork.........nothing is more Rock and Roll than THAT kind of corporate ownership  |
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Post by urbanpatrician on Jan 18, 2024 9:03:56 GMT
Either way..... I'm hot and cold with Pitchfork. I either really agree with them, or really don't - but I can definitely see where they're coming from, they are still largely influenced by the consensus opinion on the best albums of a decade or year. Or maybe they create the consensus.... or they're part of it anyways. Definitely at one time they created consensus - Radiohead especially............ I would say little by little in the 2000s they gave up on Rock and Rock culture .........to the point where they were way behind or missed things altogether......... Btw - the "Anna" in the comment I posted is Anna Wintour - whose Condé Nast empire - runs Pitchfork.........nothing is more Rock and Roll than THAT kind of corporate ownership I figured the Anna was Wintour, and I guess you're right on the Conde Nast thing, but Pitchfork hasn't really been Rock and Roll since Radiohead. Their album of the year choices seem to reflect a few trends per a few years. It was electronic at first (The Knife, The Rapture). Then college rock (Arcade Fire, Vampire Weekend, Panda Bear). Then college folk (Bon Iver, Fleet Foxes, Animal Collective). Then the Kanye rule. Then the R&B princesses (Knowles family, SZA). But none of those are rock and roll. I guess you know contemporary rock n roll, but Pitchfork doesn't seem to know them like you do. I know they also really suck up to Fiona Apple and Lana Del Rey. I've hear some of your snarky  comments about LDR and maybe Fiona... too? I like CMAT and all.... I think she's cute, but I don't think I can put her on the level of Fiona, and I definitely indulge far more in LDR. Call it my conformity...... we're all guilty of that sometimes. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 18, 2024 9:26:06 GMT
Definitely at one time they created consensus - Radiohead especially............ I would say little by little in the 2000s they gave up on Rock and Rock culture .........to the point where they were way behind or missed things altogether......... Btw - the "Anna" in the comment I posted is Anna Wintour - whose Condé Nast empire - runs Pitchfork.........nothing is more Rock and Roll than THAT kind of corporate ownership I know they also really suck up to Fiona Apple and Lana Del Rey. I've hear some of your snarky comments about LDR and maybe Fiona... too? I reviewed both of their last 2 albums - both positively on MAR - but I'm snarky about everything - in their cases it's mostly their fans - who are well meaning but a little ridiculous........I mean saying David Bowie was not really an album artist per se, that Guns N Roses ballads sucked and Pet Sounds is overrated is part of what makes me so interesting........ heck............ if we can't laugh at our fanboyism - we would all just end up like puppy & chucky sucking each other off in public and pretending that The Preachers's Wife showed a gift for comedy that deseved a BAFTA or some dumb shit ......  LDR: movie-awards-redux.freeforums.net/post/455948Fiona Apple: movie-awards-redux.freeforums.net/post/320605 |
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Post by urbanpatrician on Jan 18, 2024 9:39:04 GMT
I know they also really suck up to Fiona Apple and Lana Del Rey. I've hear some of your snarky comments about LDR and maybe Fiona... too? I reviewed both of their last 2 albums - both positively on MAR - but I'm snarky about everything - in their cases it's mostly their fans - who are well meaning but a little ridiculous........I mean saying David Bowie was not really an album artist per se, that Guns N Roses ballads sucked and Pet Sounds is overrated is part of what makes me so interesting........ heck............ if we can't laugh at our fanboyism - we would all just end up like puppy & chucky sucking each other off in public and pretending that The Preachers's Wife showed a gift for comedy that deseved a BAFTA or some dumb shit ...... LDR: movie-awards-redux.freeforums.net/post/455948Fiona Apple: movie-awards-redux.freeforums.net/post/320605I get ya, man. I was just toying with you. Bowie really isn't an albums artist. Guns N Roses ballads are..... listenable but they feel dated. I like them but they're not the epic power soul searches they are to 55 year old men who were formerly long haired Lebowski lookalikes. You remind me of Stephen A. Smith. He doesn't actually hate the Cowboys. Just can't stand their nauseating fans. I'm with him on that - tho. They ride either high or low, with nothing in between. Never should they feel they were gonna win a Super Bowl beating teams by 30 points at home. Anyone can tell they had no linebackers (draft fucking linebackers please), a defense that can't play from behind, and is just easily schematically owned. Some depth at Wide Receiver too, and maybe get a running back. But the delusion runs strong in that fanbase, and now the trashing of everyone involved on the team. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 18, 2024 17:56:28 GMT
Pitchfork hasn't reviewed many of my favorite albums of the MAR era - no Speedways, they haven't covered CMAT at all, they missed Sprints until 2 days ago, NOBRO too - Les Gry-Grys never existed for them.......neither did The Exbats........... they missed Peter Perrett's re-emergence , Westerberg's "retirement", Geoff Palmer, Brad Marino, US Power Pop (Whiffs, Reflectors, Local Drags, and UK too - More Kicks)..........The Bobby Lees in their Bellevue peak..................and they were politically daft (to say the least). Have a nice Death hipster doofuses........ Oh I was just reminded - Pitchfork missed Kate Clover AND The Clockworks in 2022 & 2023 - and in the Clockworks case that goes back like 4 years over singles and EP........GTFO..........  |
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Post by countjohn on Jan 18, 2024 18:40:25 GMT
Pitchfork have always been hipster douches but you did periodically get really good rock criticisms on there, when I was getting into indie rock in high school there were a few reviews that got me to notice things I didn't notice before and listen on a deeper level to really get into a band's sound. They would hyperbolically pan things but when they gave something a really high 9+ score it meant something and you knew it was good.
Unfortunately it turned into a corporate shithole around tenish years ago and now they give pop stars good reviews to get interviews with them. So whatever.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 19, 2024 17:46:17 GMT
One of the least isightful Pitchfork "Rock" critics (ha!) - Jenn Pelly - treating the Pitchfork Purge with the reverence one might treat the burning of a sacred Cathedral or the loss of a parent ............ comments on Twitter on 1.5 days prior to today when she overrated the new Sleater-Kinney - also reviewed by pacinoyes btw........... on the Jenn Pelly Curve of a full +1.7 points If only she would promise to say less......... pelly
@jennpelly
i’m deeply at a loss rn. i’ve lived for my work and for 13 years, since i was 22, it’s been at pitchfork. i’m sure i’ll have more to say at some point but for now i’m just eternally grateful to the editors who’ve helped make me the writer i am
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Post by pacinoyes on Jan 19, 2024 21:01:20 GMT
Either way..... I'm hot and cold with Pitchfork. I either really agree with them, or really don't - but I can definitely see where they're coming from, they are still largely influenced by the consensus opinion on the best albums of a decade or year. Or maybe they create the consensus.... or they're part of it anyways. Definitely at one time they created consensus - Radiohead especially............ I would say little by little in the 2000s they gave up on Rock and Rock culture .........to the point where they were way behind or missed things altogether......... Btw - the "Anna" in the comment I posted is Anna Wintour - whose Condé Nast empire - runs Pitchfork.........nothing is more Rock and Roll than THAT kind of corporate ownership I love this shit - this is something I would do if I was firing someone........I mean I do this when I'm making fun of posters on MAR - I leave my sunglasses on and twirl my Snidely Whiplash Moustache while eating jellybeans  .............. Cold blooded: TylerDeneuve and LaraQ our most stylish, young urbanites who may be amused / outraged at the fashion queen's dark side: Anna Wintour, Condé Nast’s longtime fashion doyenne, is famous for a singular style trademark — her sunglasses.
Indeed, Wintour didn’t take off her sunglasses the entire time she met with employees of Pitchfork this week to tell them they were losing their jobs after Condé Nast had decided to subsume the music criticism site into GQ, according to one now-former employee in attendance.
“One absolutely bizarro detail from this week is that Anna Wintour — seated indoors at a conference table — did not remove her sunglasses while she was telling us that we were about to get canned,” Allison Hussey, a former Pitchfork staff writer, wrote on X. “The indecency we’ve seen from upper management this week is appalling.”
variety.com/2024/digital/news/anna-wintour-sunglasses-pitchfork-layoffs-meeting-1235877883/ |
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Post by countjohn on Jan 20, 2024 0:31:04 GMT
That's more punk rock than anything Pitchfork's done in ages.
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, Westerberg's "retirement", Geoff Palmer, Brad Marino, US Power Pop (Whiffs, Reflectors, Local Drags, and UK too - More Kicks)..........The Bobby Lees in their Bellevue peak..................and they were politically daft (to say the least).
comments about LDR and maybe Fiona... too? I like CMAT and all.... I think she's cute, but I don't think I can put her on the level of Fiona, and I definitely indulge far more in LDR. Call it my conformity...... we're all guilty of that sometimes. 
..............Cold blooded: 