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Post by futuretrunks on Dec 23, 2023 1:00:19 GMT
Lowden just keeps impressing more and more every year. Slow Horses, The Gold, Benediction, Fighting with my Family, etc. I daresay it, Saoirse despite her vastly more successful career is looking increasingly less inspired and capable an actor right now than her betrothed.
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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 23, 2023 1:09:10 GMT
Now watch Ronan get a Best Actress Oscar nomination for Steve McQueen's Blitz  |
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Post by futuretrunks on Dec 23, 2023 4:07:59 GMT
Now watch Ronan get a Best Actress Oscar nomination for Steve McQueen's Blitz Wouldn't surprise me at all, yet the thread remains germane. He's forcing himself into undeniable relevance. She's coasting on her authentically genius childhood performances. People have slews of nominations and fade, like Amy Adams. |
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Post by mhynson27 on Dec 23, 2023 4:30:12 GMT
Now watch Ronan get a Best Actress Oscar nomination for Steve McQueen's Blitz Wouldn't surprise me at all, yet the thread remains germane. He's forcing himself into undeniable relevance. She's coasting on her authentically genius childhood performances. People have slews of nominations and fade, like Amy Adams. Relevance with who?? Because the general public still wouldn't have a clue. |
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Post by futuretrunks on Dec 23, 2023 4:57:25 GMT
Wouldn't surprise me at all, yet the thread remains germane. He's forcing himself into undeniable relevance. She's coasting on her authentically genius childhood performances. People have slews of nominations and fade, like Amy Adams. Relevance with who?? Because the general public still wouldn't have a clue. I don't know, but I know for a fact that Saoirse has lost serious momentum. Little Women was the last time she was very good. |
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Dec 23, 2023 5:09:28 GMT
I haven't seen Slow Horses (I'm terrible with TV) so maybe I'm missing some tour-de-force there (aside from the usual Oldman brilliance), but Lowden has never particularly impressed me. Not that I dislike him, I also haven't found him terrible or anything, he's just a solid working actor as far as I'm concerned right now. Maybe he rises to more than that, but idk about the whole "undeniable relevance" bit when this is the first time I've really thought about him individually... ever?
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Post by futuretrunks on Dec 23, 2023 5:22:39 GMT
I haven't seen Slow Horses (I'm terrible with TV) so maybe I'm missing some tour-de-force there (aside from the usual Oldman brilliance), but Lowden has never particularly impressed me. Not that I dislike him, I also haven't found him terrible or anything, he's just a solid working actor as far as I'm concerned right now. Maybe he rises to more than that, but idk about the whole "undeniable relevance" bit when this is the first time I've really thought about him individually... ever? Yeah, he's redefining his career right now. I'm shocked, hence this thread. |
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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 23, 2023 5:42:39 GMT
Now watch Ronan get a Best Actress Oscar nomination for Steve McQueen's Blitz Wouldn't surprise me at all, yet the thread remains germane. He's forcing himself into undeniable relevance. She's coasting on her authentically genius childhood performances. People have slews of nominations and fade, like Amy Adams. I've seen Lowden in a few things ( like Fighting With My Family) And undoubtedly, he's a fine, well trained British actor from what I have seen....but " undeniable relevance" is a bit of a stretch. He's in a lot of stuff barely anyone has seen. Even Slow Horses isn't exactly some zeitgesty show that everyone is watching or talking about (and I only really hear talk of Oldman when the show is referenced). Most people couldn't pick Lowden out of a police line-up. I'm not exactly sure what makes him any different from say, Jack O' Connell, another fine working British actor who is also in a bunch of things these days that barely anyone has seen, except he had a genuine moment for a few years where he was in a zeitgesty British show ( Skins) And Hollywood tried to make him happen after he starred in a few gritty British Indies (Starred Up, '71), before a failed attempt to make him the next big Hollywood leading man with Angelina Jolie's World War 2 directed biopic Unbroken and surrounding him with Hollywood icons like George Clooney and Julia Roberts in the Jodie Foster directed Money Monster.
Now O'Connell is still around, constantly working, but like Lowden, it's mostly in things that are part of the industry content machine, and not in things that really make him undeniably relevant. Lowden hasn't even reached the point O'Connell had once, where Hollywood really tried to make him a big star. He's kind of just there.
To be honest, I'd have to put O'Connell a level above Lowden for now, because he did seem to be genuinely on the cusp of being the next big thing with his breakout performances after Skins, Starred Up and '71 ( where he was getting young Gary Oldman or young Russell Crowe comparisons), but it just never quite happened for him. Lowden has never had those kind of breakthroughs |
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Post by mhynson27 on Dec 23, 2023 13:29:09 GMT
Relevance with who?? Because the general public still wouldn't have a clue. I don't know, but I know for a fact that Saoirse has lost serious momentum. Little Women was the last time she was very good. Feels like you made this thread just to shit on Saoirse. |
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Post by LaraQ on Dec 23, 2023 13:38:15 GMT
Lowden is a bit like Joe Alywn imo.Decent actor but not that charismatic or memorable and not definitely not a star.
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Post by stephen on Dec 23, 2023 13:47:29 GMT
I haven't seen Slow Horses (I'm terrible with TV) so maybe I'm missing some tour-de-force there (aside from the usual Oldman brilliance), but Lowden has never particularly impressed me. Not that I dislike him, I also haven't found him terrible or anything, he's just a solid working actor as far as I'm concerned right now. Maybe he rises to more than that, but idk about the whole "undeniable relevance" bit when this is the first time I've really thought about him individually... ever? Definitely give it a watch. The hyperbole that Lowden is suddenly better than Ronan aside (which is patently false at this juncture), he is giving a great "leading man"-type performance against Oldman at his absolute peak. I can definitely see Lowden's star rise in a massive way with the right project, which Benediction should've been with a better studio. |
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Post by countjohn on Dec 23, 2023 17:30:40 GMT
Lowden is a bit like Joe Alywn imo.Decent actor but not that charismatic or memorable and not definitely not a star. Also both are mainly known for dating someone more famous and talented than them. |
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Post by ibbi on Dec 23, 2023 21:47:36 GMT
I can understand the right now reasoning given she isn't doing much of anything lately, but even in See How They Run I think she was more interesting than him in anything I've seen him in. I really liked him in Fighting with My Family, but... I don't know, I've seen him in so much stuff, and he's pretty unmemorable in everything. I've not watched season 3 of Slow Horses yet, so if he's gone to some whole other level than where he was before, then I apologize.
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Post by futuretrunks on Dec 23, 2023 22:10:23 GMT
I can understand the right now reasoning given she isn't doing much of anything lately, but even in See How They Run I think she was more interesting than him in anything I've seen him in. I really liked him in Fighting with My Family, but... I don't know, I've seen him in so much stuff, and he's pretty unmemorable in everything. I've not watched season 3 of Slow Horses yet, so if he's gone to some whole other level than where he was before, then I apologize. Really? I found that movie so bland, even Saoirse and Rockwell made no impression on me. |
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 23, 2023 22:14:01 GMT
Ngl - my first thought was I posted this in bold below and said Julianne Nichoslon - "sort of" was to me a bit like Taraji P. Henson (same age about, an Emmy winner (Henson's not) and a better actress: and got asshat replies from TWO people that someone was "side-eyeing" me. Whatever - pfffft - I'm just going to say that in my example at least Julianne Nicholson is the better actor and Lowdon just isn't at all Just sayin' - the shit I gotta deal with 
I mean I'm sure she won't quit anyway ...and..........if you compare her to a sort of equivalent - Julianne Nicholson or somebody (around the same age, an Emmy winner, a better actress (arguably for some I guess, but not to me)) - she's making waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than Julianne Nicholson I'd guess ...... in that way she's overpaid |
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Post by ibbi on Dec 23, 2023 22:20:27 GMT
I can understand the right now reasoning given she isn't doing much of anything lately, but even in See How They Run I think she was more interesting than him in anything I've seen him in. I really liked him in Fighting with My Family, but... I don't know, I've seen him in so much stuff, and he's pretty unmemorable in everything. I've not watched season 3 of Slow Horses yet, so if he's gone to some whole other level than where he was before, then I apologize. Really? I found that movie so bland, even Saoirse and Rockwell made no impression on me. The movie itself was a load of nothing, but I thought they were an amazing comic double team. Could have watched them all day. |
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Post by futuretrunks on Dec 23, 2023 22:22:16 GMT
I think part of the problem is Ronan hasn't really convincingly played an adult, despite being almost 30 years old. She can't really manifest a sort of carnal, down-to-earth aura.
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Post by futuretrunks on Dec 23, 2023 23:47:03 GMT
Wouldn't surprise me at all, yet the thread remains germane. He's forcing himself into undeniable relevance. She's coasting on her authentically genius childhood performances. People have slews of nominations and fade, like Amy Adams. I've seen Lowden in a few things ( like Fighting With My Family) And undoubtedly, he's a fine, well trained British actor from what I have seen....but " undeniable relevance" is a bit of a stretch. He's in a lot of stuff barely anyone has seen. Even Slow Horses isn't exactly some zeitgesty show that everyone is watching or talking about (and I only really hear talk of Oldman when the show is referenced). Most people couldn't pick Lowden out of a police line-up. I'm not exactly sure what makes him any different from say, Jack O' Connell, another fine working British actor who is also in a bunch of things these days that barely anyone has seen, except he had a genuine moment for a few years where he was in a zeitgesty British show ( Skins) And Hollywood tried to make him happen after he starred in a few gritty British Indies (Starred Up, '71), before a failed attempt to make him the next big Hollywood leading man with Angelina Jolie's World War 2 directed biopic Unbroken and surrounding him with Hollywood icons like George Clooney and Julia Roberts in the Jodie Foster directed Money Monster.
Now O'Connell is still around, constantly working, but like Lowden, it's mostly in things that are part of the industry content machine, and not in things that really make him undeniably relevant. Lowden hasn't even reached the point O'Connell had once, where Hollywood really tried to make him a big star. He's kind of just there.
To be honest, I'd have to put O'Connell a level above Lowden for now, because he did seem to be genuinely on the cusp of being the next big thing with his breakout performances after Skins, Starred Up and '71 ( where he was getting young Gary Oldman or young Russell Crowe comparisons), but it just never quite happened for him. Lowden has never had those kind of breakthroughs I see what you're saying and it's an interesting comp, but it's more of a demerit for O'Connell IMO. He had a push in film and nothing happened. Lowden hasn't really yet. I also think he just has way more range than Jack, who is more in the Tom Hardy school of acting (though better). Also, you're underrating Slow Horses and The Gold. Both have made significant waves in the TV landscape. Not like The Bear, Beef, Succession, but nothing O'Connell has done maybe ever has registered like that. Skins was popular to certain demographics, but Slow Horses is considered one of the best shows on TV right now by people in the know. |
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Post by franklin on Dec 24, 2023 0:19:38 GMT
Aren't they together?
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Post by pupdurcs on Dec 24, 2023 0:42:28 GMT
I've seen Lowden in a few things ( like Fighting With My Family) And undoubtedly, he's a fine, well trained British actor from what I have seen....but " undeniable relevance" is a bit of a stretch. He's in a lot of stuff barely anyone has seen. Even Slow Horses isn't exactly some zeitgesty show that everyone is watching or talking about (and I only really hear talk of Oldman when the show is referenced). Most people couldn't pick Lowden out of a police line-up. I'm not exactly sure what makes him any different from say, Jack O' Connell, another fine working British actor who is also in a bunch of things these days that barely anyone has seen, except he had a genuine moment for a few years where he was in a zeitgesty British show ( Skins) And Hollywood tried to make him happen after he starred in a few gritty British Indies (Starred Up, '71), before a failed attempt to make him the next big Hollywood leading man with Angelina Jolie's World War 2 directed biopic Unbroken and surrounding him with Hollywood icons like George Clooney and Julia Roberts in the Jodie Foster directed Money Monster.
Now O'Connell is still around, constantly working, but like Lowden, it's mostly in things that are part of the industry content machine, and not in things that really make him undeniably relevant. Lowden hasn't even reached the point O'Connell had once, where Hollywood really tried to make him a big star. He's kind of just there.
To be honest, I'd have to put O'Connell a level above Lowden for now, because he did seem to be genuinely on the cusp of being the next big thing with his breakout performances after Skins, Starred Up and '71 ( where he was getting young Gary Oldman or young Russell Crowe comparisons), but it just never quite happened for him. Lowden has never had those kind of breakthroughs I see what you're saying and it's an interesting comp, but it's more of a demerit for O'Connell IMO. He had a push in film and nothing happened. Lowden hasn't really yet. I also think he just has way more range than Jack, who is more in the Tom Hardy school of acting (though better). Also, you're underrating Slow Horses and The Gold. Both have made significant waves in the TV landscape. Not like The Bear, Beef, Succession, but nothing O'Connell has done maybe ever has registered like that. Skins was popular to certain demographics, but Slow Horses is considered one of the best shows on TV right now by people in the know. was waaay more of an impactful show than Slow Horses. It was a zeigiest hit show in the UK in a similar way that Euphoria has been in the US, in how it showed truthful and edgy portrayals of teens . And like Euphoria, Skins proved s breeding ground for a new generation of talent/stars. Daniel Kaluuya, Dev Patel, Nicholas Hoult, Kaya Scodelario, Dakota Blue Richards, Hannah Murray (Game Of Thrones), Joe Dempsie (Game Of Thrones), Olly Alexander, Luke Pasqualino, Joe Cole, Jack O'Connell and many more made their names on Skins and went on to have major or significant careers. I can't think of another British show in the 21st Century that produced so many successful alumni. From Oscar winners and nominees to constantly in demand working actors on major productions, as a a talent factory, Skins is one of the most important British shows of this century. And Hollywood paid attention, even though it was technically a niche British show. If you were on Skins, Hollywood saw you as a potential star. Slow Horses ain't got that kind of juice. |
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Post by JangoB on Dec 24, 2023 1:10:18 GMT
Wouldn't surprise me at all, yet the thread remains germane. He's forcing himself into undeniable relevance. She's coasting on her authentically genius childhood performances. People have slews of nominations and fade, like Amy Adams. Relevance with who?? Because the general public still wouldn't have a clue. I think he means relevance with himself  Nice to see that futuretrunks found himself a successor to Leo's throne. |
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Post by futuretrunks on Dec 27, 2023 0:58:48 GMT
I see what you're saying and it's an interesting comp, but it's more of a demerit for O'Connell IMO. He had a push in film and nothing happened. Lowden hasn't really yet. I also think he just has way more range than Jack, who is more in the Tom Hardy school of acting (though better). Also, you're underrating Slow Horses and The Gold. Both have made significant waves in the TV landscape. Not like The Bear, Beef, Succession, but nothing O'Connell has done maybe ever has registered like that. Skins was popular to certain demographics, but Slow Horses is considered one of the best shows on TV right now by people in the know. was waaay more of an impactful show than Slow Horses. It was a zeigiest hit show in the UK in a similar way that Euphoria has been in the US, in how it showed truthful and edgy portrayals of teens . And like Euphoria, Skins proved s breeding ground for a new generation of talent/stars. Daniel Kaluuya, Dev Patel, Nicholas Hoult, Kaya Scodelario, Dakota Blue Richards, Hannah Murray (Game Of Thrones), Joe Dempsie (Game Of Thrones), Olly Alexander, Luke Pasqualino, Joe Cole, Jack O'Connell and many more made their names on Skins and went on to have major or significant careers. I can't think of another British show in the 21st Century that produced so many successful alumni. From Oscar winners and nominees to constantly in demand working actors on major productions, as a a talent factory, Skins is one of the most important British shows of this century. And Hollywood paid attention, even though it was technically a niche British show. If you were on Skins, Hollywood saw you as a potential star. Slow Horses ain't got that kind of juice. Skins was good and a farm for talent, but its artistic bonafides pale in comparison to Euphoria. That play episode alone is about 500 times more sensational and ambitious and thrilling than any episode of Skins. Slow Horses is a boutique show, but very well-respected. O'Connell hasn't led anything that broke out comparably. |
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Post by futuretrunks on Dec 27, 2023 1:06:25 GMT
Relevance with who?? Because the general public still wouldn't have a clue. I think he means relevance with himself Nice to see that futuretrunks found himself a successor to Leo's throne. No way breh. It's Leo, then a gap, then Gosling, then a constellation of more or less fungible figures with varying gifts and talents and ambition, but a shared lack of ultimate greatness. |
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Post by pupdurcs on Jan 20, 2024 6:43:01 GMT
Going by early reviews for her performance for her new film The Outrun after it's Sundance premiere , Ronan may have an awards season/potentially Oscar level contending performance.
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Post by stabcaesar on Jan 20, 2024 6:49:36 GMT
Going by early reviews for her performance for her new film The Outrun after it's Sundance premiere , Ronan may have an awards season/potentially Oscar level contending performance. She also has Blitz which I suspect will be the larger player, but having a banner year never hurts. You go biyotch get dat Oscar |
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Nice to see that futuretrunks found himself a successor to Leo's throne.
