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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Dec 21, 2023 6:06:39 GMT
Saw an early screening in Dolby.
Sleek, well-crafted, and engaging. Compared to something like Ford v Ferrari, it’s definitely more geared towards the character of Ferrari himself over the racing, making for a more intellectual take. That said, it is hard to feel actively engaged in the drivers of the vehicles, as well as the point of Ferrari’s backroom politics, do get lost amidst his family drama. But Adam Driver commands the film when he’s onscreen, whereas Penelope Cruz tends to steal it. And when they do roll around, the racing sequences, and the sound design in them, are stellar stuff. I haven’t watched a lot of Mann, so I don’t know how it fits into his ranks, but its a rock solid time regardless.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Dec 26, 2023 22:37:38 GMT
Mann delivers again. Cooper should take a page out of his book on how to approach a biopic. Driver and Cruz are quite good, and she certainly deserves a Supporting Actress nom. Woodley’s accent is on par with Hemsworth’s in Blackhat. Wonderful cinematography, sound, and editing. And the racing scenes really sizzled.
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Post by Kings_Requiem on Dec 27, 2023 0:38:14 GMT
I was getting strong Godfather III vibes from this. The sense of dread that permeates the entire thing from the beginning is palpable. Kudos to Mann for that. Driver and Cruz are both fantastic and would be deserving of nominations. Editing and Sound are top notch as well. Definitely a return to form for Mann after the slight slip-up that was Blackhat.
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Post by Film Socialism on Dec 28, 2023 4:48:53 GMT
not as peak as his obvious trilogy of masterpieces (Miami Vice, Collateral and Blackhat for my $) but still lovely. feels intentionally minor in some ways though? great to see mann's most autistic lead though
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Post by SZilla on Dec 29, 2023 3:32:05 GMT
Very good film with great performances from Driver & especially Cruz. Woodley's accent is all over the place. The finale of the Mille Miglia had the audience audibly gasping. A strong 7/10
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Post by finniussnrub on Dec 29, 2023 16:11:00 GMT
No filmmaker has to do less than Michael Mann for this board to eat it up. Some decent race sequences, though some of the effects on the big moment near the end dilute its impact a bit, do not make a great movie, or even good one. All the racers are absurdly vague, including the guy they build up only with only hollow lip service for the final sequence, never in actual character development. Driver and Cruz (who is the best part)'s relationship is absurdly repetitive, since it starts when they're already just basically extremely bitter. Woodley is atrocious and ensures any scene with her is inert. And even Ferrari himself is rather vaguely drawn as just an imperious businessman who reactions to almost everything with the same cold manner. And there's a difference between force feeding the audience, and delivering almost no information whatsoever to create context and stakes. There's a middle ground, but Mann chooses the extreme latter in this case in terms of developing the racing world at the time, particularly the final race. If any other filmmaker made this exact film, it would rightly be torn to shreds.
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Post by countjohn on Jan 4, 2024 3:28:21 GMT
One of those movies where I liked the heart of it but there are so many little things that bug me that it kind of drags it down. Solid script, good cinematography, good costumes, I could get behind a nod for Cruz and I liked Driver too.
But one of the things that hit me throughout is how slow it all felt, which is weird when pacing is usually what Mann does best, things like Heat and Collateral have so much momentum to them from beginning to end. Felt like the perfect director for this in that respect. The sound was just odd to me too, certain things were way too loud like random sound effects and especially the music and it would take me out of the movie. Then there's Woodley's accent work and whatever the hell Patrick Dempsey was doing. The CG in the crash scene was pretty bad for a 100 mil. movie too.
Giving it a 7/10 on the whole.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Jan 12, 2024 6:06:47 GMT
Lower-tier Mann, but still pretty good. Slightly dull at times, but the staging of the Mille Miglia is quite thrilling (there were only a few people in my theater, but they audibly gasped at that moment), and nobody shoots action and faces like Mann nowadays. What the movie does thematically is also interesting, namely how it treats Ferrari’s relationship to death - he’s expanding the human boundaries of speed, gambling with life and skirting death almost as a paradoxical way of purging himself of the ghost of death and grief... until his walls of compartmentalization tragically collapse at the end.
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Post by JangoB on Jan 26, 2024 3:09:29 GMT
Kind of shocked by how much I liked it since I thought Blackhat was a point of no return. Thankfully Ferrari is very much a return to form and an excellent entry in the Michael Mann quest to deglamorize the biopic genre. It was a passion project for him and I felt that passion throughout which is probably due to Mann actually focusing on the people instead of just chronicling events like he did in Public Enemies. Enzo Ferrari himself may feel like an impenetrable character but he's an interesting impenetrable character and that's all that matters. But as good as Driver is, performance-wise the film belongs to Cruz who was mercilessly robbed of an Oscar nomination, especially in favor of that fucking lineup. Hell, the tiny Daniela Piperno as Mamma Ferrari would've made a better nominee than pretty much all of them!
I really liked the dialogue, the "heading for inevitable doom" nature of the script, the editing, Mann's personal touches (especially how he shows the aftermath of that awful crash, as if doing a riff on Godard's infamous tracking shot from Weekend but with cars and passengers replaced by corpses and limbs). I liked most of the things about it tbh. It just hits me on an overall conceptual level: a man surrounds himself with metal trying to make some sense out of his life but doesn't notice that he ends up building a cage. Cool shit.
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