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Post by Brother Fease on Jun 26, 2023 1:52:10 GMT
That would be an inaccurate description of what is happening here. We're not making a new live chicken or a new species of animals, but growing meat chicken from animal cells. GMOs are nothing new. We create plants all the time in labs, by crossing different plants together. Hard pass from me buddy. I'm a simple God-fearing Christian man who likes his chicken the old fashioned way - running around, scared for its life and bloody when executed .......... What you are describing is a form of sorcery or witchcraft.........I wish all of you good luck with this newfangled poultry coven however  So you're against cross-breading plants, fruits, and animals? You're completely misrepresenting the issue here.
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Post by Martin Stett on Jun 26, 2023 2:29:55 GMT
Hard pass from me buddy. I'm a simple God-fearing Christian man who likes his chicken the old fashioned way - running around, scared for its life and bloody when executed .......... What you are describing is a form of sorcery or witchcraft.........I wish all of you good luck with this newfangled poultry coven however  So you're against cross-breading plants, fruits, and animals? You're completely misrepresenting the issue here. We've been crossbreeding plants forever. Growing meat in a lab is, to my knowledge, a new frontier. I feel that being skeptical is warranted.
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Post by Brother Fease on Jun 26, 2023 3:05:48 GMT
We've been crossbreeding plants forever. Growing meat in a lab is, to my knowledge, a new frontier. I feel that being skeptical is warranted. It is a new frontier. But the principle is still the same. Pacinoyes is making it seem like we engaging in cloning or re-creating a new live chicken. Are you guys against test-tube babies as well? The fact of matter is, you guys have no issue with eating McDonalds meat, eat a Wendy's Pretzel Burger with fried onions on it, smoke cigarettes, and have tattoos. None of which is good for your system or the environment. Christianity was referenced too -- which is 100% against eating shellfish and pork. Lab-grown meat is actually good for our society - reduces carbon footprint and doesn't slaughter or mistreat animals. Being "new" (GMOS and lab-grown food has been around for at least the last 10 years) doesn't mean we can distort the product. I am all for trying this. I am skeptical about the taste.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 26, 2023 3:32:54 GMT
I'm not opposed to you eating it - personally I do not give a cluck (um) - I am opposed to me eating it. I wished you wackadoodles good luck with your Robochickens ......Amen 
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Post by Martin Stett on Jun 26, 2023 3:38:02 GMT
We've been crossbreeding plants forever. Growing meat in a lab is, to my knowledge, a new frontier. I feel that being skeptical is warranted. It is a new frontier. But the principle is still the same. Pacinoyes is making it seem like we engaging in cloning or re-creating a new live chicken. Are you guys against test-tube babies as well? The fact of matter is, you guys have no issue with eating McDonalds meat, eat a Wendy's Pretzel Burger with fried onions on it, smoke cigarettes, and have tattoos. None of which is good for your system or the environment. Christianity was referenced too -- which is 100% against eating shellfish and pork. Lab-grown meat is actually good for our society - reduces carbon footprint and doesn't slaughter or mistreat animals. Being "new" (GMOS and lab-grown food has been around for at least the last 10 years) doesn't mean we can distort the product. I am all for trying this. I am skeptical about the taste. Speak for yourself. I am disgusted by all of those except for tattoos... which are only a health risk if you or the artist are failing to keep the skin/instruments clean, AFAIK. It doesn't really deserve to be lumped in with the others. I don't call for dismissing this out of hand, but I also don't want to jump right in. I think everyone should keep an eye open and not trust it until there has been time to analyze health benefits/risks. I don't trust the FDA to have the good of the consumer in mind for one goddamn second. As for GMOs being a thing, I try to stay away from them because I don't trust the little mothers.
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Post by Brother Fease on Jun 26, 2023 10:44:49 GMT
It is a new frontier. But the principle is still the same. Pacinoyes is making it seem like we engaging in cloning or re-creating a new live chicken. Are you guys against test-tube babies as well? The fact of matter is, you guys have no issue with eating McDonalds meat, eat a Wendy's Pretzel Burger with fried onions on it, smoke cigarettes, and have tattoos. None of which is good for your system or the environment. Christianity was referenced too -- which is 100% against eating shellfish and pork. Lab-grown meat is actually good for our society - reduces carbon footprint and doesn't slaughter or mistreat animals. Being "new" (GMOS and lab-grown food has been around for at least the last 10 years) doesn't mean we can distort the product. I am all for trying this. I am skeptical about the taste. Speak for yourself. I am disgusted by all of those except for tattoos... which are only a health risk if you or the artist are failing to keep the skin/instruments clean, AFAIK. It doesn't really deserve to be lumped in with the others. I don't call for dismissing this out of hand, but I also don't want to jump right in. I think everyone should keep an eye open and not trust it until there has been time to analyze health benefits/risks. I don't trust the FDA to have the good of the consumer in mind for one goddamn second. As for GMOs being a thing, I try to stay away from them because I don't trust the little mothers. You do understand that lab-grown meat has been around for a while? It took a long time for the product to get FDA approved - meaning it passed all the necessary tests for human consumption. I do understand you don't like GMOs period. I just find it rather hypocritical that people can be against lab produced meat, but at the same time, have no problem eating or smoking rather unnatural and dangerous products. Creating food in a lab or cross-breading is nothing new.
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Post by Martin Stett on Jun 26, 2023 11:55:11 GMT
Speak for yourself. I am disgusted by all of those except for tattoos... which are only a health risk if you or the artist are failing to keep the skin/instruments clean, AFAIK. It doesn't really deserve to be lumped in with the others. I don't call for dismissing this out of hand, but I also don't want to jump right in. I think everyone should keep an eye open and not trust it until there has been time to analyze health benefits/risks. I don't trust the FDA to have the good of the consumer in mind for one goddamn second. As for GMOs being a thing, I try to stay away from them because I don't trust the little mothers. You do understand that lab-grown meat has been around for a while? It took a long time for the product to get FDA approved - meaning it passed all the necessary tests for human consumption. I do understand you don't like GMOs period. I just find it rather hypocritical that people can be against lab produced meat, but at the same time, have no problem eating or smoking rather unnatural and dangerous products. Creating food in a lab or cross-breading is nothing new. I think we're speaking in circles now, so we should probably leave off. Cross-breeding and GM food is not the same, first of all. And in the case of food, I'd want decades of study on human guinea pigs before I eat it myself. I'd be fine with it in small quantities, but I don't think we have the evidence yet to know long term effects. If everyone else wants to eat it, fine... but that also means that it will be harder to find the real thing, since this *will* get pushed down our throats.  That upsets me, as it has a personal impact on me. That said, I likely won't live long enough for eating or not eating this stuff to matter to my health.
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Post by cherry68 on Jun 26, 2023 20:53:45 GMT
Christianity was referenced too -- which is 100% against eating shellfish and pork. ???? I'm catholic, and nobody ever forbidden me to eat shellfish or pork.
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Post by Brother Fease on Jun 26, 2023 21:04:44 GMT
Christianity was referenced too -- which is 100% against eating shellfish and pork. ???? I'm catholic, and nobody ever forbidden me to eat shellfish or pork. I am Catholic too. Nobody ever did either. But look at Leviticus 11:19 and 11:7. The point here is that people eat unethical, unhealthy, unholy food all the time. GMOs are growing in popularity.
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Post by Martin Stett on Jun 26, 2023 21:08:42 GMT
???? I'm catholic, and nobody ever forbidden me to eat shellfish or pork. I am Catholic too. Nobody ever did either. But look at Leviticus 11:19 and 11:7. The point here is that people eat unethical, unhealthy, unholy food all the time. GMOs are growing in popularity. Paul(?) said "screw the dietary laws" later on though
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Post by Brother Fease on Jun 26, 2023 21:13:37 GMT
I am Catholic too. Nobody ever did either. But look at Leviticus 11:19 and 11:7. The point here is that people eat unethical, unhealthy, unholy food all the time. GMOs are growing in popularity. Paul(?) said "screw the dietary laws" later on though I eat what I want. Never took the bible seriously, but there are people out there who do. And yes, we will have to agree to disagree on Lab-created chicken. :-)
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Post by cherry68 on Jun 26, 2023 22:27:51 GMT
I am Catholic too. Nobody ever did either. But look at Leviticus 11:19 and 11:7. The point here is that people eat unethical, unhealthy, unholy food all the time. GMOs are growing in popularity. Paul(?) said "screw the dietary laws" later on though Not only, Jesus said that nothing that comes from outside can contaminate a man, but only what's inside his heart.
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Post by pacinoyes on Jun 28, 2023 7:25:36 GMT
* I think the "Christianity" argument which was raised by me - as a joke ffs - reverts only to Creation - as in Frankenstein etc - the posts about what the Bible says about shellfish are meaningless to the actual point raised * Speaking of meaningless - would you rather eat Scary McLab Poultry or Go Suck a Rock?? - now Rocks don't have to be made in a lab so obviously they are preferable to Horrible Experiment Without Feathers from a Creation POV ..........on the other hand they are you know .......just f'n Rocks ........ Martin Stett who should be highly amused by this and fits in with his sense of humor - you're just supposed to suck 'em (that's what she said) - but like What Came First, the Lab Created Chicken or the Lab Created Egg (um) - what could possibly go wrong? * Side note: Yeah, I get it - "Chinese Rocks" (Heartbreakers version) is one of the greatest songs of all time....... but that was just about heroin which is probably safer tbh 
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Post by pacinoyes on Jul 9, 2023 13:53:57 GMT
Fanatical Regressive-Left Chicken Propaganda from Tree Huggers and Acorn Fornicators this AM from CBS: Side note 1 - "A dream come true" - That's some ghastly shit said with a straight face Side note 2 - So you have to pay more for it.......interesting theory ......  Side note 3 - I literally want to kill chickens like crazy atm, and not eat them .......just for the fucking bloodlust .......ftw
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Post by pacinoyes on Nov 19, 2023 14:33:33 GMT
Remember a few weeks back when I posted a video from CBS Sunday Morning about Bradley Cooper in Maestro (Maestro thread) and I said I didn't give a shit about him, his fake nose or that film really .........well......this video gets into some horrifying ideas about food that scare the fnck out of me tbh and makes me really care about hamburgers and pizza and Thankgiving........ 
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