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Post by Nikan on Feb 7, 2023 17:09:47 GMT
Do you lable him Metal or Rock? Do you prefer him to Marilyn Manson or not really? Which David Fincher project of his you find most effective? Favorite album / performance / songs / anything ...
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Post by VERITAS on Feb 8, 2023 1:45:54 GMT
Don't care for Manson, but love Reznor to bits even outside his NIN work. He's industrial first and foremost but can easily slip into ambient and electro on occasion; Social Network (being my favourite Fincher collaboration of his) is a prime example. When I think Reznor I think NIN, no apologies, so I'd say my favourite record of theirs would be "The Slip" with "Discipline" being my favourite track...
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Feb 8, 2023 3:39:54 GMT
Do you label him Metal or Rock? Industrial.
Do you prefer him to Marilyn Manson or not really? Absolutely. I like Manson's work up through Holy Wood then he grows massively redundant to me (to say nothing of what a piece of shit he is as a person). Reznor, meanwhile, is a legitimate musical genius.
Which David Fincher project of his you find most effective? Close one between The Social Network and Gone Girl but I'll go with the former today. Think the best single song he's contributed for Fincher was the cover of "Immigrant Song" he and Ross made with Karen O. My favorite Reznor/Ross score, though, might actually be Bones and All.
Favorite album / performance / songs / anything ... Pretty normie taste. The Downward Spiral as NIN's best album, "Closer" as best song, love their Woodstock '94 performance.
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Feb 8, 2023 8:50:47 GMT
Haven’t listened to a ton of Manson, but Reznor is one of my all-time favorite music artists. His understanding of how to manipulate timbre and texture is unparalleled, and he really knows how to exploit those parameters to their fullest expressive effect in his film scores. He’s also surprisingly versatile too – the way he can go from aggressive and abrasive to strangely warm and haunting soundscapes in the same album (or even in the same song), shifting from an industrial sound to almost an EDM style at times, and it’s still crazy that he and Ross composed the scores for both Soul AND Mank in the same year, two soundtracks that couldn’t be more different. Love him... and the fact that he’s a two-time Oscar winner.
Do you label him Metal or Rock? Industrial
Which David Fincher project of his you find most effective? Love them all, but I’d say The Social Network is his most accomplished score. That thing just pulses with energy, bubbling dread and restlessness mixed with sad pathos. “Hand Covers Bruise” is a classic track, and a masterful bit of minimalistic lyricism. The score overall is also very subtle in the way it cues shifts in the power dynamic between characters (among other pivotal narrative turns) with recurring melodic/bass patterns - not exactly leitmotivic scoring, though it’s similar while doing its own thing entirely. Best score of the decade. Favorite album / performance / songs / anything The Downward Spiral is his masterpiece. “Closer” is probably my favorite song, but shout-out to “All the Love in the World,” “The Hand That Feeds,” “Right Where It Belongs,” “The Great Destroyer,” “The Wretched".....
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Post by Nikan on Feb 8, 2023 14:01:30 GMT
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Feb 8, 2023 18:51:07 GMT
Do you label him Metal or Rock? yeah I'll say industrial too. Covers more ground.
Do you prefer him to Marilyn Manson or not really? yeah definitely. Loved Manson in my edgy teen years but don't get anything from him anymore. His last several albums are barely listenable. Reznor has always been a cut above and that was *before* he started composing some killer film scores.
Which David Fincher project of his you find most effective? probably Dragon Tattoo but I haven't heard a bad Reznor & Ross score yet.
Favorite album / performance / songs / anything ... With Teeth was probably my favorite NIN album and highlight was "Right Where it Belongs" with that haunting piano melody. Of course "Closer" is iconic and I also always enjoyed "Just Like You Imagined" in spite of (or maybe because of? lol) those 300 trailers.
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Feb 9, 2023 11:06:05 GMT
Do you lable him Metal or Rock? I don't think of him as either. He's from the industrial genre but that label almost didn't seem to matter once he/NIN were really on.
Do you prefer him to Marilyn Manson or not really? Oh of course. I never took Manson seriously and I flat out just don't like metal music, so there's that. Trent Reznor is a great talent, so talented that he could play industrial music to people that don't care about industrial music.
Which David Fincher project of his you find most effective? He pairs well with Fincher and the perfect pairing was the soundtrack for the Social Network.
Favorite album / performance / songs / anything ... I don't really listen to NIN these days because I am Gen-Y with Boomer tastes. All the angsty teen years stuff I've pretty much abandoned. Best album? I haven't heard anything he's done to top The Downward Spiral, I guess.
March of the Pigs will always be my favorite Nine Inch Nails song. It packs everything he does into one chaotic ride for three minutes. Saw NIN live in 05'. First of all, Trent Reznor is an incredible performer. And second, when he got to March of the Pigs, everyone went especially nuts for it. So I guess I'm not the only one who considers it a standout.:
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 9, 2023 21:48:39 GMT
Like his hero (I guess?) - David Bowie - he's more fascinating to talk about than he is to really listen to very deeply .......Like Bowie, he is a singular figure in his decade of prominence - and built on a great contradiction of his own.......he rose to prominence in the ugliest decade so far in Pop music - "ugly" in subject matter that regularly hit the charts I mean .......and yet he himself is capable of and produced music of almost breathtaking beauty that is not ugly at all ........while making some of the most abrasive (and off-puttingly dour) music too. In his own genre (Industrial) he codefied sounds as disparate as Skinny Puppy, Ministry, Big Black that never would not have been thought possible to actually hit the top 10 .....and he did it with regularity on challenging albums..... Like Bowie, I don't think of him as an album artist much as I do a "his hits, in small doses" act - but I like his hits ......I also like Filter's Hey Man Nice Shot which normies think is him anyway .......he's the subject of one of the great putdown quotes in Rock history from his ex-something or other:
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Post by PromNightCarrie on Feb 9, 2023 23:19:27 GMT
Yeah I never forgot that quote. Oh, the 90s when Courtney was beefing and/or sleeping with every other rock star.
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Post by Nikan on Feb 10, 2023 7:16:57 GMT
Like his hero (I guess?) - David Bowie - he's more fascinating to talk about than he is to really listen to very deeply .......Like Bowie, he is a singular figure in his decade of prominence - and built on a great contradiction of his own.......he rose to prominence in the ugliest decade so far in Pop music - "ugly" in subject matter that regularly hit the charts I mean .......and yet he himself is capable of and produced music of almost breathtaking beauty that is not ugly at all ........while making some of the most abrasive (and off-puttingly dour) music too. In his own genre (Industrial) he codefied sounds as disparate as Skinny Puppy, Ministry, Big Black that never would not have been thought possible to actually hit the top 10 .....and he did it with regularity on challenging albums..... Like Bowie, I don't think of him as an album artist much as I do a "his hits, in small doses" act - but I like his hits ......I also like Filter's Hey Man Nice Shot which normies think is him anyway .......he's the subject of one of the great putdown quotes in Rock history from his ex-something or other: Not gonna lie, I was side-thinking of you when watching Moonage Daydream. Like "had pacinoyes been here he would've shouted OH FFS ALREADY!" (I know you like him enough ) But the more time passes and the more stories of him I hear, I recognize just how smart Bowie was, other than being so creative and talented... he pops up everywhere. His collab w. Queen ok they were from the same time and the place and they were a bigger act (?) I get that... but to recognize Brian Eno's work at that time and make some records with him... or his surprise appearance at that Morrissey concert... or helping Trent out with his addiction as the video above suggests... and tons of acts he involved himself in that I don't know yet. The man must've really known his audience to predict the type of music they would love from next generation... took all of his chances and opportunities and in 2023 I guess he's more beloved than ever... he's almost like Noah Cross. gambling on the future.
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Post by pacinoyes on Feb 10, 2023 8:18:45 GMT
Like his hero (I guess?) - David Bowie - he's more fascinating to talk about than he is to really listen to very deeply .......Like Bowie, he is a singular figure in his decade of prominence - and built on a great contradiction of his own.......he rose to prominence in the ugliest decade so far in Pop music - "ugly" in subject matter that regularly hit the charts I mean .......and yet he himself is capable of and produced music of almost breathtaking beauty that is not ugly at all ........while making some of the most abrasive (and off-puttingly dour) music too. In his own genre (Industrial) he codefied sounds as disparate as Skinny Puppy, Ministry, Big Black that never would not have been thought possible to actually hit the top 10 .....and he did it with regularity on challenging albums..... Like Bowie, I don't think of him as an album artist much as I do a "his hits, in small doses" act - but I like his hits ......I also like Filter's Hey Man Nice Shot which normies think is him anyway .......he's the subject of one of the great putdown quotes in Rock history from his ex-something or other: The man must've really known his audience to predict the type of music they would love from next generation... took all of his chances and opportunities and in 2023 I guess he's more beloved than ever... he's almost like Noah Cross. gambling on the future. In the 10 year period of 79-89 he works with - or covers - such a diverse group of people that it makes my head spin: (live) Klaus Nomi (sorta), Robert Fripp, Eno, makes David Mallet's career, Queen, breaks Stevie Ray Vaughan's career, Mickey Rourke iirc (?), Tina Turner, Peter Frampton, Mick Jagger , covered John Lennon (on record), praised the Pixies - who his audience didn't know about most likely then - and who he would eventually cover too (live) .........that's just off the top of my head........ and that's not even in his most creative period or active one ........he's constantly looking forward and back and recontextualizing the past too......and his own place in both .......it's exhausting really..... How much better can you eat David? What can you buy that you can't already afford?
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Feb 12, 2023 2:43:34 GMT
I am Gen-Y with Boomer tastes.
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