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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2022 16:46:17 GMT
Another incredible quintet of films, don't you think? If you were an Academy member at the time, which would you have voted for? You all probably know my choice (though I truly don't rate any of these films below an 8/10).
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Post by stephen on Dec 29, 2022 17:00:14 GMT
The Elephant Man is far and away the cream of the crop. Should've swept the year.
I would probably rate the others fairly close in quality. Raging Bull features the best direction of any non-Lynch film that year but I don't think De Niro is very good in the "prime La Motta" scenes, only really sticking the landing in the last act for me, and for me that weakens the overall product. (Pesci and Moriarty are tremendous, though.) I think I ultimately prefer Coal Miner's Daughter and Ordinary People over it, and Tess brings up the rear close behind (though I have that one in '79).
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Dec 29, 2022 17:00:24 GMT
Elephant Man Ordinary People Coal Miner's Daughter Tess Raging Bull
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Post by Archie on Dec 29, 2022 17:06:03 GMT
Raging Bull wipes the floor with the rest.
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Post by wallsofjericho on Dec 29, 2022 17:15:55 GMT
The Elephant Man.
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Post by pacinoyes on Dec 29, 2022 17:24:41 GMT
Sort of like '82 - nothing I'd give a thumbs down: * Tess for me - it improves amazingly on rewatches - it's my favorite - not sure if it's the best...on rewatches it hits in a much more overtly fatalistic way - on the first watch it seems "just a period piece" .....when really it draws much blood - figuratively and literally .......and um, visually too * Raging Bull is as perfect a movie as you can make without me loving it - the acting - one of the big 6 of modern male leads post-67 ffs - direction, look, evoking of period detail - everything is stunning - and yet I dislike the character so much it pushes me away. It's a lot like Goodfellas actually - 10 years earlier - and it's better than Goodfellas too imo.......it's impeccable, but....the amount of boxing in the film wears me out - in that way it's sort of like Nashville - another perfect movie that I can't quite care that much about - in that movie it's too much music ........which is the point, I know, but...... Raging Bull may literally the greatest movie ever made about many uniquely specific things - one of which is "how what you do can ruin who you are .........and your life".......if Jake just wasn't as good a boxer, think how happier he'd have been
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Post by countjohn on Dec 29, 2022 17:48:54 GMT
Ordinary People>Raging Bull, despite everyone loving to dump on it and say Raging Bull got ripped off. De Niro has the all time great performance but the movie around him is just okay. Also Hutton isn't that far off De Niro anyway and is also one of the best winners in his category. One of the best examples of category fraud since it enabled them to award the two best male performances of the year.
That's a moot point though since if anything got ripped off that year it was Elephant Man, which deserved to win.
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Post by stephen on Dec 29, 2022 17:53:17 GMT
Tess brings up the rear close behind Really? Really.
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Post by stephen on Dec 29, 2022 18:03:34 GMT
That's the best phrasing you could come up with to describe a Polanski film and that one in particular? Cool. Didn't even cross my mind.
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Post by JangoB on Dec 29, 2022 19:17:28 GMT
It's Raging Bull! Hallelujah!
1. Raging Bull 2. The Elephant Man 3. Tess 4. Ordinary People 5. Coal Miner's Daughter
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Post by hugobolso on Dec 29, 2022 21:02:20 GMT
I think Tess is the movie which I could see every couple of years. Doesnt mean its the best. But its the most watchable.
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Post by Javi on Dec 30, 2022 0:45:28 GMT
Firmly in the Elephant camp.
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Post by futuretrunks on Dec 30, 2022 3:58:03 GMT
Tess, by far. It's utterly virtuosic work. I consider it the best shot film of all time. Watch a good print of that and tell me it's not absolutely amazing. And Polanski never had this Kubrick reputation for cinematography, but it shits on even Barry Lyndon, IMO. The use of natural light is incredible.
The Elephant Man is very good, and Lynch's best movie after his masterpieces (Blue Velvet/Mulholland Dr.), but Tess is better. Raging Bull is whatever. I'd take a good 5-7 Scorsese films over it in an instant, starting with Goodfellas and The Departed.
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Post by ingmarhepburn on Dec 30, 2022 11:52:57 GMT
Haven't seen Coal Miner's Daughter yet.
Tess is in desperate need of a rewatch. I don't remember much about it, except being very impressed with the cinematography.
Raging Bull is one I can admire, but could never bring myself to love. Ordinary People is fine for what it is, and The Elephant Man is great and has my vote.
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