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Post by Pavan on May 12, 2017 11:29:27 GMT
That was good. A mix of Alien and Prometheus. First half was tense and very well directed but the later half goes into uncharted direction but Fassbender took it from there and.. he was exceptional. The flute scene was superb. You can watch the film just for him alone. Rest of the cast were okay. We get to see something about Elizabeth Shaw and engineers. The neormorphs design reminded of Dementors but the protomorphs are pretty well designed. I liked the chilling ending with Richard Wagner's Entrance of the Gods into Valhalla playing in the background. Visuals are slick and the editing is crisp. Not a great one but it's worth watching.
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Post by HELENA MARIA on May 12, 2017 16:30:56 GMT
I really enjoyed it .Not great but still good enough 7/10
ps : I think Fassbender is my current 2017 supporting actor win
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Post by jakob on May 19, 2017 8:45:23 GMT
Okay, but underwhelming.
Fassbender was terrific. Waterston and McBride were great. Scott's direction was on fire and the film explores some truly fascinating areas but it can't ever seem to figure out what movie it wants to be. It's nice to finally know some answers but it also felt like the film felt it needed to rush through too much of it. The exterior visuals are all terrific, but oh my god, the CGI on the creatures is ghastly. It constantly pulled me out of the tension. Imagine Guy Pearce's makeup in Prometheus: that level of "this isn't working, try again". I really, really love the way the movie concludes, it just would have been so much better if its conclusion wasn't so painfully obvious.
6.5/10
It's a decent entry in the franchise, and it fixes a lot of the previous entries mistakes, while also creating its own less-damning mistakes.
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on May 19, 2017 15:19:04 GMT
Yeah, I'm not gonna be so kind with this one. "I'll do the fingering" may be the least of the movie's worries.
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Post by jakesully on May 19, 2017 22:27:02 GMT
Kinda of underwhelming to be honest. I will cosign that Fassbender was aces though . I could watch Walter & David interact all day lol. The script was uninspiring to say the least (and Alien 3 gets so much shit?! Way better imo) . The opening scene was brilliant though.
6.5/10
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Post by atn on May 20, 2017 6:20:01 GMT
Paid to see James Franco. Was dissappointed.
Movie was ok
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Post by jakesully on May 20, 2017 12:18:31 GMT
Kinda of underwhelming to be honest. I will cosign that Fassbender was aces though . I could watch Walter & David interact all day lol. The script was uninspiring to say the least (and Alien 3 gets so much shit?! Way better imo) . The opening scene was brilliant though. 6.5/10 so basically the very entire supporting cast were wasted and no one does well at all?. McBride was pretty cool. But thats about it.
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on May 21, 2017 1:03:51 GMT
Okay, so I finally watched the Prologues, and they did exactly what I feared they would do... they made me realize that Alien: Covenant is even worse than I initially gave it credit for. They made me realize that I hate this movie.
Should Ridley Scott attempt a director's cut, the mere inclusion of the "Crossing" and "Last Supper" sequences would go a long way in fixing some of Covenant's greatest issues. The thinly sketched and poorly defined characters that fade into the background, the awkward shoehorning of the Prometheus segments, both easily fixable if Ridley had just left those in, rather than slicing them out like damn video game DLC for the hype train. I first saw Covenant fresh not watching these segments beforehand, and therefore I didn't get full context as to who any of these characters are, what their personalities were like, the connection to their spouses, or even the fact that this was an all couples crew. These prologues definitely give me all of that, but despite everything I've just said, that still doesn't make anything better. The fact that they're not even included in the movie means they're still essentially the same as deleted scenes that don't count, and if the studio really is all that lazy that they have to point us to these in order to get full enjoyment out of Covenant, because the actual film couldn't be fucked to do so, that's on their heads and tells you that they've screwed up.
So why cut these seemingly vital scenes out of the film? Why couldn't The Last Supper just have opened the film? And if anyone tries to give me pacing excuses, I will nut punch Pietro Scalia. Did Ridley really think we were going to get that bored for a film that was Just. Starting?! And that's not to say that the film would have been good (it still would have had plenty of issues), but at least it would have been much more tolerable. That's just a testament as to how sloppy Ridley's treatment of this film really is. He wants to protect the integrity of his baby, but he's blissfully unaware of the fact that he himself is damaging his own career-making franchise with these terrible decisions. At least Neill Blomkamp's Alien 5, as bad as it could have been, would have been something different for the franchise, and nowhere near as disappointing.
It really is just an awful movie, almost as damaging to the franchise as Alien: Resurrection was. And now that I'm thinking back on it, I truly believe - even if it only did this momentarily - that the film's greatest sin is the worst that any sequel or adaptation can commit... it made me question if the original movie was really that good to begin with. Then I realized it was stupid for me to think that, but it still gives you an idea how thoroughly underwhelming this movie is.
Whew. Man, did I get angry. I need some time to go think.
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Post by agent69 on May 22, 2017 14:17:10 GMT
I think it is the worst "Alien" film by far. I have so many issues with it that I don't even consider it canon. Prometheus for all it's faults at least tried something different. This one abandons all the questions and story threads from it in favor for a rehash of everything we've seen a milion times over. The idea that David created the original Alien is utterly disappointing and unacceptable to me. Especially considering the explanation ("oh I experimented a little") - How? There's a million new unanswered questions: Why does the black goo thing always react differently? What are the spores if it is stated it does not infect plant life? Why do the Engineers look different? Why did David kill them? Why are there so few of them? Why doesn't anyone ask him about bunch of dead alien humanoids? What happened to the Xenomorphs that were birthed by Engineers? Ridley doesn't really give a shit or even know. The characters are as idiotic as the ones in Prometheus so obviously he learned nothing from the loudest criticism from Prometheus. The film even treats us like idiots - like we didn't know that was David in the end. And David was such a frustrating villain to me and now we will have to suffer him in another one? Ugh. I'd rather sit through AvP3 than this again.
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Post by idioticbunny on May 22, 2017 16:54:05 GMT
Yeah, I went in with moderate expectations, but hoping for something at least stronger than Prometheus. In fact, I thought it was much, much worse. I give Prometheus a 7/10, but I'm starting this one off with a generous 5/10 - which is the worst rating for an Alien film I've given. The first third was nice and offered the same intensity of the first Alien, even if the dialogue was laid on a bit thick. But my God, it gets worse from there. The initial contact was good, but once Fassbender Part Deux gets involved, the film takes a turn toward ScyFy Channel movie bad. Way, way, way too much exposition and "answers" to the whole Alien universe, which made no sense as the reason those films were so good was the mystery surrounding the creatures themselves. I hate when prequels do this, and none of it made much sense, which didn't help its case. Fassbender was good, but he was so much better in Prometheus. I felt like they not only ruined the franchise with this one, but his character as well.
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Post by Lubezki on May 23, 2017 15:11:33 GMT
Great first half; the tension and build up to landing on the unknown planet was some of Ridley's best work in a while. But after the introduction of David it takes a humongous downward spiral from there on in. Granted, Fassy was superb but the whole plot became unbelievably disjointed and I sort of lost interest as it went on. Prometheus had it's problems, but it still kept me engaged throughout. This was just a flat out disappointment.
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Post by harlequinade on May 25, 2017 17:41:51 GMT
That was just awful. The story was terrible and Ridley's man crush on Fassbender makes for one lousy origin story and you can see the way they will tie it to Alien from mile away. Fass was great but the movie surrounding him was forgettable, mediocre and disposable flick. It brought nothing new and the way Scott treated Rapace was just gross.
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Post by Viced on May 25, 2017 22:50:59 GMT
eh, I liked it tbh. It's definitely got a shitload of problems, but they were easy for me to ignore. Fassbender is amazing... without him the movie doesn't work at all.
A more forward sequel to Prometheus would have been waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better, and this was disappointing overall... but I was entertained enough and had the crap scared out of my a few times so I'll give it a 7/10
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Post by alexanderblanchett on May 27, 2017 18:28:25 GMT
It was a good film and decent entry to the Alien franchise, however one of the weaker ones. I also preferred the previous "Prometheus" to it because it introduced me to a totally new mythology that interested me and that I wanted to see develop further. While it definitely develops the story, and especially Michael Fassbender's character David I was a bit disappointed because it just cuts so many promising ankles up. I did like the idea to connect it more to the original Alien franchise but I hoped for more Alien action. The film wastes too much time to introduce mediocre and uninteresting characters. Then releases a different kind of alien which is rather lame tho (well at least there were some really well choreographed scenes). The cast was fine. I did like Michael Fassbender and liked the direction they went with his characters. In the mid section the conflict is a bit over the top but still an interesting twist. Katherine Waterston did her best as a poor mans Ellen Ripley. Well Noomi Rapace in the former was already introduced as a poor man Ellen Ripley and killed off before this film even begs, so I expect the same fate to Waterston in a further sequel. Billy Crudup was rather boring. To my surprise Danny McBride was really good here. Too bad they wasted Guy Pearce for just a cameo because he could have made a really good character. What I really liked was the last third which had nice action scenes, great cinematography and generally many references to the former Alien films which it paid homage to. Also the final twist, while predictable, works perfectly and makes you want to see how the story continues and finally connects to the crew of the Nostromo 7/10
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Post by Billy_Costigan on May 28, 2017 3:36:34 GMT
eh, I liked it tbh. It's definitely got a shitload of problems, but they were easy for me to ignore. Fassbender is amazing... without him the movie doesn't work at all. A more forward sequel to Prometheus would have been waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better, and this was disappointing overall... but I was entertained enough and had the crap scared out of my a few times so I'll give it a 7/10 Yeah, not sure why they didn't just continue with Rapace. I liked Covenant, but it feels like the same thing over and over again. So I don't know why thefelt the need to go this route.
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Post by Viced on May 28, 2017 13:32:07 GMT
eh, I liked it tbh. It's definitely got a shitload of problems, but they were easy for me to ignore. Fassbender is amazing... without him the movie doesn't work at all. A more forward sequel to Prometheus would have been waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better, and this was disappointing overall... but I was entertained enough and had the crap scared out of my a few times so I'll give it a 7/10 Yeah, not sure why they didn't just continue with Rapace. I liked Covenant, but it feels like the same thing over and over again. So I don't know why thefelt the need to go this route. I was very disappointed when I read this on Covenant's trivia page: Screw those divided fans!!!!!!
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Post by harlequinade on May 28, 2017 15:27:22 GMT
Yeah not only did Scott made this awful film but he is out there actually talking about changing his vision to please fans. And what we got is a generic trash that retcons Alien. I doubt I will see anything worse this year than Alien mimicking David's moves.
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Post by harlequinade on Jun 4, 2017 14:46:59 GMT
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Post by Sharbs on Jun 13, 2017 16:32:49 GMT
The main thing that has bothered me is right before the "twist at the end" David had distinctly longer hair (sort of curlier) then the other Fassy (I forgot the name). I mean, Did David buzz it between he killed him and joined the crew.
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Post by harlequinade on Jun 13, 2017 16:58:48 GMT
The main thing that has bothered me is right before the "twist at the end" David had distinctly longer hair (sort of curlier) then the other Fassy (I forgot the name). I mean, Did David buzz it between he killed him and joined the crew. Don't look for logic where there is none like why was his hair long anyways? He cut it after like 3 scenes. And in 10 years time wouldn't they grow longer? This movie
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Post by Lord_Buscemi on Jun 13, 2017 20:45:09 GMT
It's too far up its own ass with all the convoluted, unnecessary mythology, and follows another mistake that Prometheus had by making the characters absolutely retarded. Still, not the worst in the franchise by a long shot. In fact, it's one of the "better" ones (whatever that means), mainly because of Fassbender.
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Post by AKenjiB on Jun 19, 2017 22:17:30 GMT
I think it starts out pretty strong but get gradually worse as it continues. The final act is pretty meh. Fassbender and McBride were great though.
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