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Post by countjohn on Dec 20, 2022 1:14:22 GMT
Didn’t realize how Andrew Garfield in TSN he was here. That kid is great. LOL, that's the same speech patterns as Eduardo telling off Zuck at the end of the movie, didn't notice that the first time.
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Post by JangoB on Dec 21, 2022 9:17:57 GMT
The full Q&A with Scorsese (not the best sound quality but hey):
And the PTA one for good measure (sound only but at least it's good):
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Post by stabcaesar on Dec 30, 2022 2:51:00 GMT
Saw it last night and thought it was merely serviceable. The first 110 minutes or so are pretty good, parts of it even great (e.g., when Sammy finds out about his mom's affair, best part in the movie imo), but it really falters in the last 30-40 minutes where it becomes as try-hard and cloy as a Spielberg movie often is. The parents' divorce and the confrontation with the bullies in particular cringed my ass off. Ew.
The cast was quite solid. The best imo were Lynch (hilarious and so on point), Chloe East (supremely delightful), Gabriel Labelle (carried the movie like a champ), and Mateo Zoryon Francis-DeFord (quite a brilliant child performance imo). I thought Dano was really fucking dull other than that last scene (which admittedly is really strong), Hirsch I didn't care for at all, and Rogen was absolutely terrible. Williams I'm on a fence, parts of her performance are absolutely fantastic (like the close up on her face when they moved in to that new house in California - phenomenal), but parts of it are kind of overkill.
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Post by Ryan_MYeah on Dec 30, 2022 6:54:15 GMT
I watched it again tonight. Bergy just… he has direct access to my feels. I don’t think this cracks his top ten - he’s made so many great movies that it makes it a tall order (especially coming off the heels of WSS), but it’s no less gorgeous, and patient, and so heartfelt as anything he’s ever made. I love it so much.
And that ending shot: Steven, you absolute troll. It makes me cackle.
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Post by ingmarhepburn on Jan 9, 2023 0:42:32 GMT
Just got back from seeing it. It didn't feel like a two hour and a half movie (at all). It ran so fast, and in the end, I was like: "Noooooo, I want more!". Such an engaging and beautiful film. Spielberg did it again.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jan 24, 2023 15:21:09 GMT
Ranking the performances out of spite after seeing what got nominated:
Paul Dano David Lynch Chloe East Gabrielle LaBelle Michelle Williams Judd Hirsch Seth Rogen
Some combo other some of the kids (siblings/friends/students)
Oakes Fegley
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Post by stabcaesar on Jan 24, 2023 15:28:05 GMT
Ranking the performances out of spite after seeing what got nominated: Paul Dano David Lynch Chloe East Gabrielle LaBelle Michelle Williams Judd Hirsch Seth Rogen Some combo other some of the kids (siblings/friends/students) Oakes Fegley Good 1. David Lynch 2. Mateo Zoryan Francis-DeFord 3. Chloe East 4. Gabriel LaBelle Blah 5. Michelle Williams Bad 6. Judd Hirsch 7. Paul Dano Garbage 8. Seth Rogan
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Post by Archie on Jan 24, 2023 15:29:18 GMT
Gabrielle LaBelle Judd Hirsch (Still a BS nomination. He's barely in the movie) Paul Dano David Lynch Julia Butters and Keeley Karsten Chloe East Michelle Williams Crystal the Monkey Sam Rechner Oakes Fegley
Seth Rogen (WOAT)
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Post by Tommen_Saperstein on Jan 24, 2023 16:01:05 GMT
LaBelle and Lynch were the standouts. Dano was good. No one else stood out for the right reasons.
I was gonna hold my tongue on this because it has so much support in this thread lol, but after the noms I'm choosing violence. I saw this a couple days ago and looking forward to it but I thought it was at best serviceable and at worst a boring and seriously overlong coming of age drama that wouldn't have registered with anyone if it had been framed as anything other than Spielberg autobiography. I've been kind of a Spielberg skeptic lately and I thought West Side Story might've changed it but I don't think it did, and now all I'm thinking is he should stick to musical remakes. This is better than Roma which was so based on half-formed memories to be barely there, but inferior to Belfast and vastly inferior to Marriage Story. Despite being so personal, this movie doesn't feel remotely distinct from his others. It has all the same usual Bergian suspects: the hammy caricatures, the schmaltz, cutesy dialogue, cartoonish goyim, only this time it doesn't have a memorable Williams score or Kaminski visuals (couldn't recall a single memorable musical theme or shot from this) and it's also too long and narratively loose. It didn't deserve a single nomination but the most egregious were production design (bland), score (bland), Williams (hammy), and Hirsch (triple hammy and ridiculously short). A Dano nomination I would've been fine with.
How the hell was Moreno excluded from the convo in 2021 for a short performance with multiple scenes, one of West Side Story's best and most emotional songs and an actual backstory, while Hirsch gets to slip in under the radar with five minutes of chewing through more scenery than the Jurassic Park T-Rex. I'll never understand that.
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Post by stabcaesar on Jan 24, 2023 16:04:04 GMT
LaBelle and Lynch were the standouts. Dano was good. No one else stood out for the right reasons. I was gonna hold my tongue on this because it has so much support in this thread lol, but after the noms I'm choosing violence. I saw this a couple days ago and looking forward to it but I thought it was at best serviceable and at worst a boring and seriously overlong coming of age drama that wouldn't have registered with anyone if it had been framed as anything other than Spielberg autobiography. I've been kind of a Spielberg skeptic lately and I thought West Side Story might've changed it but I don't think it did, and now all I'm thinking is he should stick to musical remakes. This is better than Roma which was so based on half-formed memories to be barely there, but inferior to Belfast and vastly inferior to Marriage Story. Despite being so personal, this movie doesn't feel remotely distinct from his others. It has all the same usual Bergian suspects: the hammy caricatures, the schmaltz, cutesy dialogue, cartoonish goyim, only this time it doesn't have a memorable Williams score or Kaminski visuals (couldn't recall a single memorable musical theme or shot from this) and it's also too long and narratively too loose. It didn't deserve a single nomination. But the most egregious were production design (bland), score (bland), Williams (hammy), and Hirsch (triple hammy and short). A Dano nomination I would've been fine with. How the hell was Moreno excluded from the convo in 2021 for a short performance with multiple scenes, one of West Side Story's best and most emotional songs and an actual backstory, while Hirsch gets to slip in under the radar with five minutes of chewing through more scenery than the Jurassic Park T-Rex. I'll never understand that. Agreed with all this except I thought Dano was dull and wooden as fuck and West Side Story is bad.
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Post by Pittsnogle_Goggins on Jan 24, 2023 22:07:48 GMT
LaBelle and Lynch were the standouts. Dano was good. No one else stood out for the right reasons. I was gonna hold my tongue on this because it has so much support in this thread lol, but after the noms I'm choosing violence. I saw this a couple days ago and looking forward to it but I thought it was at best serviceable and at worst a boring and seriously overlong coming of age drama that wouldn't have registered with anyone if it had been framed as anything other than Spielberg autobiography. I've been kind of a Spielberg skeptic lately and I thought West Side Story might've changed it but I don't think it did, and now all I'm thinking is he should stick to musical remakes. This is better than Roma which was so based on half-formed memories to be barely there, but inferior to Belfast and vastly inferior to Marriage Story. Despite being so personal, this movie doesn't feel remotely distinct from his others. It has all the same usual Bergian suspects: the hammy caricatures, the schmaltz, cutesy dialogue, cartoonish goyim, only this time it doesn't have a memorable Williams score or Kaminski visuals (couldn't recall a single memorable musical theme or shot from this) and it's also too long and narratively loose. It didn't deserve a single nomination but the most egregious were production design (bland), score (bland), Williams (hammy), and Hirsch (triple hammy and ridiculously short). A Dano nomination I would've been fine with. How the hell was Moreno excluded from the convo in 2021 for a short performance with multiple scenes, one of West Side Story's best and most emotional songs and an actual backstory, while Hirsch gets to slip in under the radar with five minutes of chewing through more scenery than the Jurassic Park T-Rex. I'll never understand that. Might be the most I’ve ever disagreed with you. The Fabelmans >>>>> Belfast >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marriage Story >>>>> Roma
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Post by DanQuixote on Feb 2, 2023 23:30:53 GMT
Adored this. The scene where he edits the camping trip footage is just amazing.
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Post by Pavan on Feb 10, 2023 12:35:08 GMT
Equal parts magical and moving. The master filmmaker deftly captured gentle family emotions and the contrast between art and family. Sammy finding the secret while editing was fascinating to watch. There are like half a dozen memorable scenes in this one but the final scene and shot are pure gold. His best film since 2012's Lincoln- 8/10
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2023 18:41:41 GMT
Adored this. The scene where he edits the camping trip footage is just amazing. What did you think of Michelle Williams?
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Post by DanQuixote on Feb 12, 2023 1:42:01 GMT
Adored this. The scene where he edits the camping trip footage is just amazing. What did you think of Michelle Williams? It’s a ridiculous performance that shouldn’t really work, but somehow it does.
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Post by michael128 on Feb 16, 2023 22:38:59 GMT
Am I the only one who thought Paul Dano was legit AWFUL in this?
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Post by The_Cake_of_Roth on Feb 17, 2023 2:43:10 GMT
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Post by mikediastavrone96 on Mar 18, 2023 3:33:00 GMT
Y'all, what? Never would've guessed they used the Volume for this. It's so perfectly integrated.
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Post by Brother Fease on Apr 7, 2023 0:05:15 GMT
I just finished The Fabelmans about two minutes ago. Absolutely loved it. I got three more Best Picture nominees to go -- Avatar, Triangle and Women Are Talking. I was never bored for one minute. Just beautiful from beginning to end. The performances were terrific. Personally, I would have nominated David Lynch and not Judd Hirsch. This is probably my favorite Michelle Williams performance of all-time too. So emotional. Does a lot of acting with her facial expression and body position. I think she's supporting, but I guess that's not what the studio wanted to do. You can make a case either way. She is top billing.
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Post by Martin Stett on Aug 5, 2023 0:19:17 GMT
People lost their shit over this and dismissed Armageddon Time? What is wrong with the world? The acting is almost universally atrocious (Michelle Williams is especially Razzie worthy) to the point that it seemed Spielberg was completely uninterested in the acting side of things. Did he go all Clint Eastwood and just do single takes? Without rehearsal? The ending is one of the most godawfully random things I've seen all year, sticking out as a sugarcoated sore thumb. And the movie is perfectly fine. The only moment of actual energy and excitement was the sudden appearance of Momoko from Ghost Stories, who hijacks everything for fifteen minutes and shows what Spielberg could do if he made a full-on sex farce... but everything else is fine. It's pedestrian, but acceptable filmmaking that is pleasant and inoffensive and there's little to really dislike. There's nothing wrong with forgettable fluff. But there's nothing right with it either.
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